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Old 07-02-2022, 12:15 PM   #1
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Adult billing recommendations?

I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
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I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
Dialxs.com. Dutch company in the business for ages and has tons of alternate/local billng methods
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Curious, why wouldn't you want to use the biggest companies who have been around the longest?
I do use them...but there is always room for improvement.
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I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
We have been serving the adult space (and retail/mainstream too) since 1998 as the longest standing merchant account provider/processor in the industry.

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We have been serving the adult space (and retail/mainstream too) since 1998 as the longest standing merchant account provider/processor in the industry.

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Hi Mitch,

I know about your company, of course. But that is not what I am looking for. Credit cards is what everyone is offering...there is another market with people who have no credit card or even a bank account and still can pay online. Stuff like Boleto in Brazil, Seven Eleven in Mexico and other countries. I am talking over a billion people who nobody in the adult biz seems to care about...so much potential...and yet, only mainstream is offering these options, sadly.
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I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

https://www.cashtocode.com/

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Wasn't 2000charge alternative billing? There was also Dimoco I think, if I'm spelling that right.
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Hi Mitch,

I know about your company, of course. But that is not what I am looking for. Credit cards is what everyone is offering...there is another market with people who have no credit card or even a bank account and still can pay online. Stuff like Boleto in Brazil, Seven Eleven in Mexico and other countries. I am talking over a billion people who nobody in the adult biz seems to care about...so much potential...and yet, only mainstream is offering these options, sadly.
I understand what you re looking for. We specialize in credit/debit as the majority of the world has access to this, those that spend $$ anyway. We have experimented and tested alternative billing in the past, and honestly, the results were minuscule in comparison.
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I understand what you re looking for. We specialize in credit/debit as the majority of the world has access to this, those that spend $$ anyway. We have experimented and tested alternative billing in the past, and honestly, the results were minuscule in comparison.
Maybe its worth to look into it again...times are changing and more and more people are using these alternative methods.
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https://www.cashtocode.com/

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Wasn't 2000charge alternative billing? There was also Dimoco I think, if I'm spelling that right.
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Maybe its worth to look into it again...times are changing and more and more people are using these alternative methods.
I disagree. Credit and debit is stronger than ever and cash is used less now than ever before.
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I disagree. Credit and debit is stronger than ever and cash is used less now than ever before.
US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.
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US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.
Some e commerce stores in CZ support paying by internet banking(tho not all banks, only banks with API capabilities). Tried it once and it went smoothly.
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US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.
i agree. the biggest commercial market in the world (China) doesn't use Visa/MC. most people in Asia don't use them. everybody in Thailand pays by phone or cash.

if alternative payments were tested, they weren't tested in the markets that want alternative payments. phone payments were 'miniscule' in the US. people don't like ACH for porn either.

i think adult billing in the US is pretty well covered. the OP is looking to bill the 3rd world.

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Some e commerce stores in CZ support paying by internet banking(tho not all banks, only banks with API capabilities). Tried it once and it went smoothly.
Yes and that works in all of the EU now, its simpler for most people, as they have a bank app on their phone and can pay easily, without even looking for a cc.
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i agree. the biggest commercial market in the world (China) doesn't use Visa/MC. most people in Asia don't use them. everybody in Thailand pays by phone or cash.

if alternative payments were tested, they weren't tested in the markets that want alternative payments. phone payments were 'miniscule' in the US. people don't like ACH for porn either.

i think adult billing in the US is pretty well covered. the OP is looking to bill the 3rd world.

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I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
If you have a US company, we offer direct Visa/MC merchant accounts with a US based bank. Our rates are as low as 4.25%, and you can use any payment gateway such as Authorize.net or PlugNPay. You control your own fraud filtering, so there is no scrubbing on our end.

A direct merchant account lets you get more approvals, lower rate, and cuts out the middleman!
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Cash payments you have cash2code, Neosurf & paysafecard

In LATAM you could look at Safetypay
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Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?
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If you have a US company, we offer direct Visa/MC merchant accounts with a US based bank. Our rates are as low as 4.25%, and you can use any payment gateway such as Authorize.net or PlugNPay. You control your own fraud filtering, so there is no scrubbing on our end.

A direct merchant account lets you get more approvals, lower rate, and cuts out the middleman!
You should partner with us for your direct merchant account gateway setups. Authnet and Plugnpay provide NONE of the specialized tools, features and functionality that adult merchants need. Feel free to hit me up directly or contact our VP of sales Wendy Nelson to become a NETbilling Partner.

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Thanks for th emention Rob and Fuzebox ;-)

We are available with our alternative solutions, get in touch and we'll inform.

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Thanks for th emention Rob and Fuzebox ;-)

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Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?
I'm also interested in this.
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Thanks, Mitch

I'm still waiting on when NB will add in velocity controls. Feel free to check my email exchange with tech support about this. Authorize.net and I'm sure many other gateways offer it: https://recdesk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us...activate-them-
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https://www.cashtocode.com/

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Yes India in INR and USD via the open loop eVouhcer. NO CB risks
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Thanks. Can you recommend some provider who can take care of the technical stuff and provide a gateway for online payments? Needs to accept adult, obviously.

EDIT: Ah sorry, you guys do that, just noticed! lol
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EDIT: Ah sorry, you guys do that, just noticed! lol
Let's take this discussion to Skype and find the best way to move this forward mate.
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