VR is dead. VR is now being sold as 360 cameras

[DVTimes]

It is interesting to see that the VR hype seems to have died.

VR now seems to be sold as 360 format for bloggers and dashcams rather than for VR footage.Not so long ago it was about making VR footage, but the new 360 cameras do not seem to bother with that as a sell, but rather a way to get steady footage for such as bloggers.

A way to select footage after you have shot, to produce non VR footage.

[CurrentlySober]

https://gfy.com/23078071-post5.html

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

https://gfy.com/23078071-post5.html

Where was everyone when I was slaughtered for saying the same thing in a thread when VR was being pushed as the next best thing to sliced bread?

For years VR has desperately attempted to prove they are as good if not better than watching normal porn - and when I disagreed I was called old. I stated that with 5 kids in school that they or any of their friends use VR when asked by me. Stores still have them in dusty boxes with no one even looking at them either out of price or usefulness.

Yes headsets are being used - mostly for gaming but teens aren't our target market.

Those who've tried headsets find them uncomfortable and not a pleasant experience.

VR has it's place for those who like it - but the % is low for users. I wouldn't say it's dead - but certainly needs a breakthru in technology to make them useful for the common user out there - even so - the shooting of VR porn still needs to step up their game to create better angles and scenes that would make a scene worth saving.

I truly wish the best for these pioneers but that's where they are NOT front runners of the industry in content or user choice.

[blackmonsters]

I'm still trying to find basic reality, so WTF I need a virtual one for.

[Mr Pheer]

From what I've seen of VR in adult, the producers have no clue of what they are doing. Yeah POV is nice, but not when it's two inches from your face and you physically cannot back away from it.

[Yanks_Todd]

I just did a deep dive of my VOD and offsite content sales last month. YanksVR videos make 500% to 600% more than a Yanks 2D video does. The average VR consumer spends much more. VR and really AR are eventualities. The new Meta Quest 2 is amazing and the 3 will be even better. I do believe so much VR content is crap and many producers aren't doing it well. The headset is still an issue for porn, but it will continue to grow and evolve. The problem with adult is that unless something or someone explodes over night it is shit to them. They don't look deeply enough at what is really happening. After the initial investment, VR isn't that much more to produce, so 5x and 6x are awesome multiples.

[mainstreammix]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Where was everyone when I was slaughtered for saying the same thing in a thread when VR was being pushed as the next best thing to sliced bread?

For years VR has desperately attempted to prove they are as good if not better than watching normal porn - and when I disagreed I was called old. I stated that with 5 kids in school that they or any of their friends use VR when asked by me. Stores still have them in dusty boxes with no one even looking at them either out of price or usefulness.

Yes headsets are being used - mostly for gaming but teens aren't our target market.

Those who've tried headsets find them uncomfortable and not a pleasant experience.

VR has it's place for those who like it - but the % is low for users. I wouldn't say it's dead - but certainly needs a breakthru in technology to make them useful for the common user out there - even so - the shooting of VR porn still needs to step up their game to create better angles and scenes that would make a scene worth saving.

I truly wish the best for these pioneers but that's where they are NOT front runners of the industry in content or user choice.

You are missing the mark on this one. VR, AR will get better and better and be around forever. If Zuck would hire some advisors on that end it would already be more heavily adopted.

What you can do with simple things like this one are already insane.

https://store.insta360.com/product/one_r?c=972

Notice it's sold out?

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by mainstreammix

You are missing the mark on this one. VR, AR will get better and better and be around forever. If Zuck would hire some advisors on that end it would already be more heavily adopted.

What you can do with simple things like this one are already insane.

https://store.insta360.com/product/one_r?c=972

Notice it's sold out?

Even the Insta360 One R you mention still has problems with it as seen in most reviews

Editing app requires latest smartphones
Stitching lines sometimes visible
Expensive
Lens could be easy to lose

Look I'm not here to battle since those who love VR are fanatical about it - I'm just stating my opinion that's all (like everyone else). I'd be happy to change it when I or if I see a VR clip that would actually give the effect in watching as you say it should. Until then I'm happy to support your efforts and hope that you actually do reach the heights you deserve - just don't claim them now when you have a % against it

[King Mark]

I remember seeing Ice-T (rapper) on a show (I think New York Undercover) playing a game with a "VR Headset" like 30 years ago. Looked awesome and I wanted one.

Bought 2 Oculuses for the kids 2 Christmasses ago. They mostly stay in a toy box and the only one that plays is my autistic nephew who visits from time to time to scream at other kids on the god awful Rec Room.

At the moment, VR is trash. I have zero interest in rubbing one out with a VR headset on. Generally, when it's rub-out time, us men have to be ultra stealthy and swift ninjas that leave no trace of anything ever happening. All your senses have to be on point. A clunky headset with 2 bitch ass joy sticks seems like an unnecessary burden to someone who just wants to knock a quick solo one out unnoticed.

I can't speak for everybody, but when it comes to me and porn, VR has a lot of evolving to do before it can replace the convenience of my phone and hand. Gotta be able to feel it to be worth it. And honestly, just getting the real thing would still be better 🤷 seems like something that should be catered strictly for those incels and neckbeards who don't ever get the real thing at the moment.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by King Mark

I remember seeing Ice-T (rapper) on a show (I think New York Undercover) playing a game with a "VR Headset" like 30 years ago. Looked awesome and I wanted one.

Bought 2 Oculuses for the kids 2 Christmasses ago. They mostly stay in a toy box and the only one that plays is my autistic nephew who visits from time to time to scream at other kids on the god awful Rec Room.

At the moment, VR is trash. I have zero interest in rubbing one out with a VR headset on. Generally, when it's rub-out time, us men have to be ultra stealthy and swift ninjas that leave no trace of anything ever happening. All your senses have to be on point. A clunky headset with 2 bitch ass joy sticks seems like an unnecessary burden to someone who just wants to knock a quick solo one out unnoticed.

I can't speak for everybody, but when it comes to me and porn, VR has a lot of evolving to do before it can replace the convenience of my phone and hand. Gotta be able to feel it to be worth it. And honestly, just getting the real thing would still be better 🤷 seems like something that should be catered strictly for those incels and neckbeards who don't ever get the real thing at the moment.

Now if it was like the movie Brainstorm from 1983 where you put the headset on and actually can feel everything then count me in - though not sure I wouldn't do the same thing as the one guy and loop the fucking orgasm scene over and over until I had a heart attack LOL

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by King Mark

us men have to be ultra stealthy and swift ninjas that leave no trace of anything ever happening.

Yes, plus its 'messy' when you cant actually see your junk... Unless you have a 'Posh Wank' and use a condom...

[DVTimes]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...worldwide.html

Sales in the headsets are down.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Makes me seasick when close.

[Yanks_Todd]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Even the Insta360 One R you mention still has problems with it as seen in most reviews

Editing app requires latest smartphones
Stitching lines sometimes visible
Expensive
Lens could be easy to lose

Look I'm not here to battle since those who love VR are fanatical about it

Not a fanatic, just my opinion but that con list is pretty weak. Latest smartphone out today will be had by all next year, this happens every year. Product not perfect, sure. Expen$ive, $500? Not really. I have been shooting for 22 years and that is not a bad price point. Easy to lose, so is my wallet, contacts and car keys, so don't lose it.

Not attacking you, just debating.

[cordoba]

I assumed this was a bumped thread from 2016 or something.

[Major Tom Thanks Duke]

It always sucked

[celandina]

I have said it here years ago when the craze started. " You cannot jerk off with this giant gag on your head".

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by celandina

I have said it here years ago when the craze started. " You cannot jerk off with this giant gag on your head".

Many people do. They said the same thing about 3D porn with the glasses and thousands did.

Personally I don't like masturbating watching VR porn, but it's still an amazing experience. It's like going to a lap dance club and having to wait until you go home to jerk off.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

From what I've seen of VR in adult, the producers have no clue of what they are doing. Yeah POV is nice, but not when it's two inches from your face and you physically cannot back away from it.

Most of the top sites still can't get the scale right. They still use male actors who are 6 ft 5 with massive cocks.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd

I just did a deep dive of my VOD and offsite content sales last month. YanksVR videos make 500% to 600% more than a Yanks 2D video does. The average VR consumer spends much more. VR and really AR are eventualities. The new Meta Quest 2 is amazing and the 3 will be even better. I do believe so much VR content is crap and many producers aren't doing it well. The headset is still an issue for porn, but it will continue to grow and evolve. The problem with adult is that unless something or someone explodes over night it is shit to them. They don't look deeply enough at what is really happening. After the initial investment, VR isn't that much more to produce, so 5x and 6x are awesome multiples.

i sure as hell trust an opinion from your background over some disgruntled journalist - or a guy in Canada who's never even owned a VR headset.

VR is a niche. mobile was a niche at one point. we saw it grow every year and now its the primary device.

my kid has sleepover parties in VR with his friends. he's on VR 6 hours a day at least. he exercises, socializes, and learns in VR. its not for everyone, but it will be (has been) adopted by the younger gens.

now Zucks metaverse? that will die out like Second Life.

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[candyflip]

VR and 360 cameras aren't the same thing.

Jesus you're fucking dumb.

We just finished a massive interactive 360 video training campaign for State Farm. Nothing "VR" about. It's just video.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Yes, plus its 'messy' when you cant actually see your junk... Unless you have a 'Posh Wank' and use a condom...

Now you can watch VR porn in 'passthrough' mode, and in high-resolution color on the Meta Quest Pro.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by plsureking

my kid has sleepover parties in VR with his friends. he's on VR 6 hours a day at least. he exercises, socializes, and learns in VR. its not for everyone, but it will be (has been) adopted by the younger gens.

That's interesting. I couldn't imagine wearing that thing for 6-8 hours a day. I've used it for an hour or 2 at a time while playing table tennis or bowling and when I take it off after using it for any extended amount of time my equilibrium is off.

[pornmasta]

My eyes have a different vision and 1st person vision gives me nausea.
Not my fault...

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Now if it was like the movie Brainstorm from 1983 where you put the headset on and actually can feel everything then count me in - though not sure I wouldn't do the same thing as the one guy and loop the fucking orgasm scene over and over until I had a heart attack LOL

Brainstorm is one of my favourite science fiction movies. I loved it. If you get a chance to see it in a theatre or very big screen TV, watch it. Most of Brainstorm is presented in a 4:3 aspect ratio and in mono sound, but expands into 16:9 Widescreen + Surround sound whenever you see the view from a character wearing the headset.

The director, Douglas Trumbull, was also trying to get his own special movie format called "Showscan", which was a high frame rate (60FPS I think) camera and projection system. The headset scenes were appearently shot in Showscan but MGM refused to back any upgrades of movie theatures to support the format.

(Another bit of trivia: Douglas Trumbull also created the company "Birkshire Ridefilm" which made "Back to the Future: The Ride" at Universal Studios in Florida. The ride was replaced with The Simpsons several years ago, but there is a "Birkshire Ridefilm" easter egg visible if you know where to look.

[2MuchMark]

One thing VR companis can do with their old hardware is just forget the VR part, and instead just make 3D content. Since it would be shot on 2 cameras and delivered in true stereo video, the 3D-ness (Wordsmith!) is perfect as it is 2 distinct vidoes from 2 slightly different points of view. If the video is shot and delivered in 2K + 60FPS then you would have a pretty realistic 3D experience to offer clients.

[cordoba]

Even the 360 part is dying a death. Some of the 360 camera makers are now splitting their products in two, so selling them as two 180 cameras for the price of one.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

That's interesting. I couldn't imagine wearing that thing for 6-8 hours a day. I've used it for an hour or 2 at a time while playing table tennis or bowling and when I take it off after using it for any extended amount of time my equilibrium is off.

yea i get motion sickness in VR lol.

gaming and social for the kids are the areas with the most potential. porn not so much, but maybe dating.

VR is not going anywhere with Zuck putting more than $100 billion USD into the VR metaverse. it doesn't matter what any of us old porn guys think. the big dogs are spending billions on it. Zuck said he'll dump money into it for a minimum of 5 years.

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[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea i get motion sickness in VR lol.

gaming and social for the kids are the areas with the most potential. porn not so much, but maybe dating.

VR is not going anywhere with Zuck putting more than $100 billion USD into the VR metaverse. it doesn't matter what any of us old porn guys think. the big dogs are spending billions on it. Zuck said he'll dump money into it for a minimum of 5 years.

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Zuck is a dumb fuck.

His best bet is to fire 70% of Metaverse people and spend the money on giving away
free or subsidized VR equipment to low income people.

Let VR explode in Rap music and then put all that shit on Metaverse.

Let the rappers shoot each other in VR if you want this shit to go some where.

Zuck the cuck idiot.

[DVTimes]

Youtube seemed to push the VR thing, but that seems to be fading out.

People with 360 cameras seem to no longer edit in that VR format.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Zuck is a dumb fuck.

His best bet is to fire 70% of Metaverse people and spend the money on giving away
free or subsidized VR equipment to low income people.

Let VR explode in Rap music and then put all that shit on Metaverse.

Let the rappers shoot each other in VR if you want this shit to go some where.

Zuck the cuck idiot.

Where VR should have taken off, is computer games.

Such as flight sims and space wars.

The problem with META is I have yet to see a use for it.

Where VR may have some bonus is such as in universities. For example teaching doctors with VR bodies may be better than just looking at pics on a book.

[Jane-Busty.pl]

Check out what was said about VR 7 years ago:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...t-content.html

I wrote it then and I'll write it again now. VR will always remain a niche. It won't change with better hardware or better software/games. It won't fly because human brain will always reject VR.

You've heard about seasickness. That's when our brain receives movement signals from our inner ear but no matching movement signals thru our sight. Brain turns on a "poisoned" mode. Seasickness.

In VR our brain receives movement signals thru the eyes but there's no movement results such as higher blood pressure, higher heart rate, adrenaline level is not raising (because we are sitting or standing).
That's again an indication for our brain to turn on the "poisoned" mode. We get dizzy.

Unless human brain doesn't change the way it works, VR remains useless in mainstream.

I'm waiting for MaDalton and his rude comments. :-)

[Christianx]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Most of the top sites still can't get the scale right. They still use male actors who are 6 ft 5 with massive cocks.

any porn medium/platform that requires male performers to have smaller cocks just doesn't understand what porn consumers want to see. That doesn't make any sense

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Christianx

any porn medium/platform that requires male performers to have smaller cocks just doesn't understand what porn consumers want to see. That doesn't make any sense

Lol, I think perhaps you and several others posting on this thread don't really understand VR.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Lol, I think perhaps you and several others posting on this thread don't really understand VR.

The irony : We understand that it's shit because we don't understand it and that's why understanding it ain't worth shit.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The irony : We understand that it's shit because we don't understand it and that's why understanding it ain't worth shit.

yea from a porn seller's perspective, its easy to dismiss VR. it aint doing shit for most of us. its a novelty, fun to try, but not practical. as a few members have mentioned, it will be awkward when the misses walks in on you rubbing one out with VR goggle on LOL. mobile is still the best device for porn.

however, VR is a game changer in gaming. full immersion is better than a console or a PC. they should be targeting rich kids and millennials still in their mom's basements, not trying to change the office.

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[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Christianx

any porn medium/platform that requires male performers to have smaller cocks just doesn't understand what porn consumers want to see. That doesn't make any sense

In VR porn, the idea is that you become immersed in the scene and become one with the male actor. When you look down and see the cock inside the actress, you feel it's your cock. This is why the male actor in VR porn almost never speaks. Because he is supposed to be you.

Now if you're an average height guy with an average sized cock, and 'your cock' in the scene is a foot further away from you where your brain is telling you your cock actually is (and while you're fapping it), that creates the sense of dissociation from the scene that kills the whole point. Not to mention it can actually be quite literally nauseatingly disorientating.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl

Check out what was said about VR 7 years ago:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...t-content.html

I wrote it then and I'll write it again now. VR will always remain a niche. It won't change with better hardware or better software/games. It won't fly because human brain will always reject VR.

You've heard about seasickness. That's when our brain receives movement signals from our inner ear but no matching movement signals thru our sight. Brain turns on a "poisoned" mode. Seasickness.

In VR our brain receives movement signals thru the eyes but there's no movement results such as higher blood pressure, higher heart rate, adrenaline level is not raising (because we are sitting or standing).
That's again an indication for our brain to turn on the "poisoned" mode. We get dizzy.

Unless human brain doesn't change the way it works, VR remains useless in mainstream.

I'm waiting for MaDalton and his rude comments. :-)

There is plenty of stuff to do in VR that doesn't involve movement unconnected to your actual physical movement.

Fitness games like Beat Saber track you as you swing your arms, duck, move from side to side etc. I spend 5 hours a week or so in a boxing simulator 'Thrill of the Fight' where your whole body is tracked as you move around your room, punching and ducking.
I watch all my movies at home in VR now on a big screen in a simulation of a Chicago apartment. You can paint in VR, learn to play the piano etc. The possibilities are endless.

VR/AR glasses absolutely will largely replace all other computer screens (as well as TVs) within 10 - 20 years.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd

I just did a deep dive of my VOD and offsite content sales last month. YanksVR videos make 500% to 600% more than a Yanks 2D video does. The average VR consumer spends much more. VR and really AR are eventualities. The new Meta Quest 2 is amazing and the 3 will be even better. I do believe so much VR content is crap and many producers aren't doing it well. The headset is still an issue for porn, but it will continue to grow and evolve. The problem with adult is that unless something or someone explodes over night it is shit to them. They don't look deeply enough at what is really happening. After the initial investment, VR isn't that much more to produce, so 5x and 6x are awesome multiples.

Sounds about right I produce high quality VR and it sells really well. I

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by plsureking

however, VR is a game changer in gaming.

The real game changer would be that people got up off their fat asses and played a game of basketball.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Zuck is a dumb fuck.

His best bet is to fire 70% of Metaverse people and spend the money on giving away
free or subsidized VR equipment to low income people.

Let VR explode in Rap music and then put all that shit on Metaverse.

Let the rappers shoot each other in VR if you want this shit to go some where.

Zuck the cuck idiot.

With all respect the interest in the musical genre of hip hop and rap music, in general, has been declining steadily since 2004. It's still popular today but overall the talent is slimmer and weaker than what was - the listeners know this. If the curve doesn't stop they'll risk being in the "rock" category which hasn't produced anything new and good is a long time.

That being said - with rap you're only hitting a small demographic that more than likely doesn't have CC to use unless it's from parents or their efforts on youtube.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The real game changer would be that people got up off their fat asses and played a game of basketball.

I got a new basketball for Christmas lol

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

With all respect the interest in the musical genre of hip hop and rap music, in general, has been declining steadily since 2004. It's still popular today but overall the talent is slimmer and weaker than what was - the listeners know this. If the curve doesn't stop they'll risk being in the "rock" category which hasn't produced anything new and good is a long time.

That being said - with rap you're only hitting a small demographic that more than likely doesn't have CC to use unless it's from parents or their efforts on youtube.

Damn, I hope you didn't injure your spleen when you pulled that out of your ass.



All music declined; but because of piracy.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Damn, I hope you didn't injure your spleen when you pulled that out of your ass.



All music declined; but because of piracy.

yea and he said "the interest". sales would be slightly more believable but still wrong. reach and plays grows every year, considering its the most popular genre of music, especially outside the states.

not sure why he had to add "with all respect". that usually means disrespect is coming

i think "the legacy" gets all his news from a time capsule.

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[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea and he said "the interest". sales would be slightly more believable but still wrong. reach and plays grows every year, considering its the most popular genre of music, especially outside the states.

not sure why he had to add "with all respect". that usually means disrespect is coming

i think "the legacy" gets all his news from a time capsule.

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Yahoo hasn't lost any interest in printing the headline "Rapper shot".

[candyflip]

People confusing VR and 360 video in this thread should be enough to tell you that most people don't know what they fuck they're talking about when it comes to this stuff.

[mop2022]

What are does?

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by plsureking

not sure why he had to add "with all respect". that usually means disrespect is coming

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Because he's petrified of offending the black man on the board.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by candyflip

People confusing VR and 360 video in this thread should be enough to tell you that most people don't know what they fuck they're talking about when it comes to this stuff.

C'mon man - if Tim Cook happened to come across this thread, I'm sure he would realize the folly of investing billions in a VR/AR headset that will be revealed later this year, and which he expects ultimately to replace the iPhone in 10 years.

[DVTimes]

Someone has stated that people are confusing 360 cameras with VR cameras.

I thought about this and disagree.

360 cameras are a different version of a VR camera, but none or true VR anyway.

360 is VR in the regards you can move left right up down.

360 can be done with often a front and back lenses or many lenses around such as a large ball.

If you refer to vr being a camera with two lenses at the front, but at a different angle, so when you have a headset on, you get a depth, so it feels real. However you do not get to move left or right or up and down. more point of view.

True vr would at this stage be computer soft wear, where the computer generates a full world, that where you move your head you with with a headset get a different version both left and right to give depth. And as you move your head the view changes. Also the sound would have to match. So if someone is speaking,on your left, that you hear them on your left with a tiny delay hitting your right ear. But once you look at them the sound should sound as if the person is in front of you. Of course this takes a huge amount of processing power and data.