So Bill was not killed in Kill Bill the movie?

[just a punk]

Seems so

[baddog]

You know there is a Kill Bill II, right?

[sandman!]

No he is still alive

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by baddog

You know there is a Kill Bill II, right?

. . .

[2MuchMark]

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by baddog

You know there is a Kill Bill II, right?

No, I never saw it. Maybe I missed something. I've seen only "Kill Bill" in two volumes. When was the sequel released?

[MatureKing]

;) ;) ;)

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

First of all, Tarantino has never made straightforward movies. And he certainly wouldn't call his movie "Kill Bill" in which the main character during two episodes just.... kills Bill. Wow, for real? What a twist!

Secondly, in volume 2 Beatrix doesn't kill any character. She kills all of them in volume 1, which is about revenge. The volume 2 has a different meaning.

When she opens the room, where Bill lives, the camera focuses on its number. It's 101. Just like in 1984 and in Matrix. The room where your mind changes. Bill sees Beatrix and pretends she shot him - he plays dead. Tarantino concentrates us on this scene, because it's not just a scene. Every scene has sense in his movies.

At the campfire Bill for the first time tells Beatrix a tale about a deadly five-touch punch. Before his story, neither we nor she had heard of it. He also tells her that her teacher killed all the Shaolin monks for refusing to worship him. And that happened 1000 years ago... This is, of course, a fairy tale - we get it and Beatrix gets it.

After her punches, Bill asks Beatrix did her teacher really teach her that? She answers yes, but also shakes her head negatively.

Both Bill and Beatrix know they are making a play. She was supposed to kill Bill, but we realize from their earlier conversation that she has forgiven him, her daughter is alive and Bill has kept her for Beatrix. Remember, she entered the room 101. But since she has to kill him (the title of the movie promises us this in a straightforward way), she plays the suggested game and yes, she kills him, but symbolically. Not with the sword she took specially for that. No. The sword she put aside. She has given up on that path. She "kills" him with a mythical non-existent punch that Bill himself told her about. If Bill told her, then they've agreed on the rules. Afterward Bill takes five steps and "dies" - just as he did when Beatrix opened the door #101 and "shot" him. Revenge is done.

For those who didn't see it, there are end credits. They list the names of all the persons on Beatrix's death list. When end credits show us a character's name, it gets crossed out. The name of the actress who played one-eyed Elle Driver? Neither we nor Beatrix know if she lived. Beatrix blinded her, but what happened next? In the end credits, a question mark "?" appears on her name. But the name of the actor who played Bill remains uncrossed out.

The movie has two volumes because they are about different paths: the revenge and the forgiveness.

Now live with it, mofos

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Now live with it, mofos

I think you've ruined it for me. I much prefered the idea that Beatrix learns the five finger exploding heart technique as she has progressed further than her master, and uses it on him to finally exact revenge and find peace.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I think you've ruined it for me. I much prefered the idea that Beatrix learns the five finger exploding heart technique as she has progressed further than her master, and uses it on him to finally exact revenge and find peace.

She did it. She took the girl and "killed" Bill with all the formal ceremonies. Yes, without the special sword we were prepared for, but with a magical death punch from Bill's fairy tale. So formally her path was completed.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

No, I never saw it. Maybe I missed something. I've seen only "Kill Bill" in two volumes. When was the sequel released?

Kill Bill volume 2 is kill Bill 2 and he was killed in that movie

[ruff]

There's a nice song out called Kill Bill by sza. So if you can't see the movie, listen to the song.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by baddog

Kill Bill volume 2 is kill Bill 2 and he was killed in that movie

So Kill Bill volume/part 2 is the same as Kill Bill II. It's a... sequel! The English language continues to amaze me with its ingenuity

BTW, I'm going to watch Narcos XXVI today

[CaptainHowdy]

You're pissing on every scornful women's parade that took "Kill Bill" as their men-are-trash banner, man . . .

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

So Kill Bill volume/part 2 is the same as Kill Bill II. It's a... sequel! The English language continues to amaze me with its ingenuity

BTW, I'm going to watch Narcos XXVI today

I decided to let Google explain the difference between Part 2 and a sequel;

What is the difference between the two? Well a movie sequel is an entirely new outing based on the continuation of the previous story. Part 2 is more of a add-on to the last half of a previous movie, but can also be categorized as a sequel.