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Old 12-20-2023, 02:29 PM   #1
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Any Lottery Players?

I'm curious, does anyone here play the lottery? Not scratchers but actual jackpot lotteries?

I have never played in my life until 6 months ago when I got the idea to try the impossible and create software that analyzes drawings and makes predictions. It's amazing how close I've manage to come, but always off by a few numbers.

Any developers here also tried this?
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Old 12-21-2023, 03:26 AM   #2
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Can’t say that I’ve tried it but not a bad idea. Where do you get the data sets?
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I play. Only occasionally, using random numbers (Lucky Dip) every so often, when the jackpots really large, but I strongly dispute your idea of prediction, based on past results.

Assuming your numbers are drawn via balls rotating in a machine, like the UK, then it's simply impossible.

On every draw, the balls have no memory of what has happened in the past draws. Just like flipping a coin - its 50/50 each time. Just because its come down heads 99 times in a row, the 100th flip is still 50/50 as the coin has no memory...

While it can be argued that a certain ball may have a minute imperfection, leading to it being select a fraction of a percent more than another, that would be moot, as they choose a different machine (out of 6 possible machines) seconds before each draw, and the 6 sets of balls get replaced regularly...

Or am I misunderstanding what you are proposing?
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When I first started gambling like twenty years ago one of the first things I did was download all the lottery results (even back then there was a csv going back to the 80s with a thousand results). I analyzed the winning numbers, selected the ones with more jackpots, and then spent a few months tracking to see if my magic numbers would win. Did not come close and it was clear there was no bias or predictability.
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Can’t say that I’ve tried it but not a bad idea. Where do you get the data sets?
There are various sites with the datasets. I currently only track games in the US. Each state usually has the drawing history on the official state lottery site that you can scrape with a few lines scripting.
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I play. Only occasionally, using random numbers (Lucky Dip) every so often, when the jackpots really large, but I strongly dispute your idea of prediction, based on past results.

Assuming your numbers are drawn via balls rotating in a machine, like the UK, then it's simply impossible.

On every draw, the balls have no memory of what has happened in the past draws. Just like flipping a coin - its 50/50 each time. Just because its come down heads 99 times in a row, the 100th flip is still 50/50 as the coin has no memory...

While it can be argued that a certain ball may have a minute imperfection, leading to it being select a fraction of a percent more than another, that would be moot, as they choose a different machine (out of 6 possible machines) seconds before each draw, and the 6 sets of balls get replaced regularly...

Or am I misunderstanding what you are proposing?
Yes, the idea of using previous drawing data has always been a highly disputed argument. I'm sure that you already know even in a totally random set there are still patterns that do occur. And to agree with your second point, most lotteries are switching to digital drawing systems using $250,000 random number computers by Smartplay Origin RNG Systems. These systems are guaranteed to be completely random and they have a team of PHD mathematicians and statisticians to ensure that every number is random.

With all that said, I have been working on multiple solutions for 7 months and I have analyzed Trillions of number combinations and there is often a pattern to be found if you know what to look for. I have come within 99.9999723% close to hitting the Powerball jackpot drawing in one case. Yes, with the odds of 1 in 292 Million, that is still a few thousand numbers away, but there is absolutely no way I would come that close without analyzing previous drawings.
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When I first started gambling like twenty years ago one of the first things I did was download all the lottery results (even back then there was a csv going back to the 80s with a thousand results). I analyzed the winning numbers, selected the ones with more jackpots, and then spent a few months tracking to see if my magic numbers would win. Did not come close and it was clear there was no bias or predictability.
You have to be careful when using that many historical drawings. Most lotteries change their range of numbers every 10 years or so. So any data you have collected prior to the latest change becomes invalid.
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Yes, the idea of using previous drawing data has always been a highly disputed argument. I'm sure that you already know even in a totally random set there are still patterns that do occur. And to agree with your second point, most lotteries are switching to digital drawing systems using $250,000 random number computers by Smartplay Origin RNG Systems. These systems are guaranteed to be completely random and they have a team of PHD mathematicians and statisticians to ensure that every number is random.

With all that said, I have been working on multiple solutions for 7 months and I have analyzed Trillions of number combinations and there is often a pattern to be found if you know what to look for. I have come within 99.9999723% close to hitting the Powerball jackpot drawing in one case. Yes, with the odds of 1 in 292 Million, that is still a few thousand numbers away, but there is absolutely no way I would come that close without analyzing previous drawings.
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I'm curious, does anyone here play the lottery? Not scratchers but actual jackpot lotteries?

I have never played in my life until 6 months ago when I got the idea to try the impossible and create software that analyzes drawings and makes predictions. It's amazing how close I've manage to come, but always off by a few numbers.

Any developers here also tried this?
How does your software work? Pattern analysis? Trend detection? How does it compare to stock/forex/crypto trading bots' success rates?
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How does your software work? Pattern analysis? Trend detection? How does it compare to stock/forex/crypto trading bots' success rates?
It looks for both patterns and trends. When compared to trading bots which primarily use ARIMA or some other Gaussian-based time series prediction model, my software adopts a few other unconventional methods as well. I'm sure these methods aren't taught in statistics courses, but when you are dealing with totally random data you need to adopt unconventional methods to find patterns.

Stock market predictions are much easier because you have trends. Stocks usually trend up a bit or trend down a bit. You don't have wild swings like $5/share Monday then $2.6Million/share on Tuesday, then $0.75/share on Wednesday, unless of course you are trading cryptocurrency.

In terms of success rates, it has so far made accurate predictions for the New York Take 5 and the Lotto Texas, neither are states where I live nor could I play. It's still a work in progress, but it's a fun and challenging way to spend my extra time.
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