Tech Cloud Company Owns All The Content It Hosts?!? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mila MojoHost · 03-28-2024, 10:08 AM

A mainstream automated cloud infrastructure called VULTR (very fitting name) has the following claim hidden in point 12 of its Terms of Service:

" You hereby grant to Vultr a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, fully paid-up, worldwide license (including the right to sublicense through multiple tiers) to use, reproduce, process, adapt, publicly perform, publicly display, modify, prepare derivative works, publish, transmit and distribute each of your User Content, or any portion thereof, in any form, medium or distribution method now known or hereafter existing, known or developed, and otherwise use and commercialize the User Content in any way that Vultr deems appropriate, without any further consent, notice and/or compensation to you or to any third parties, for purposes of providing the Services to you."
So VULTR owns whatever you host on their servers and is free to use it. Additionally, last week they announced Cloud Inference: a solution built on a serverless architecture that simplifies the integration and deployment of AI models regardless of their training environment.

The conclusion? They will most probably use the content they are hosting to train their AI model.

TL;DR: Always read the ToS when you are buying a service and choose carefully your webhosting provider. A lot of business out there are not their to help you achieve your goals.

blackmonsters · 03-28-2024, 01:45 PM

Wow, that's a whole lot of words just to say "we are intellectual property thieves".

CaptainHowdy · 03-28-2024, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mila MojoHost

VULTR (very fitting name)

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Mila MojoHost · 03-28-2024, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Wow, that's a whole lot of words just to say "we are intellectual property thieves".

Yep! It is probably not even legal. But who knows after you've accepted all their Terms and conditions?

sandman! · 03-28-2024, 11:42 PM

For all the idiots out there , they have allready said they will be fixing this fuckup, this is basically someone fucked up shit

Mila MojoHost · 03-29-2024, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

For all the idiots out there , they have allready said they will be fixing this fuckup, this is basically someone fucked up shit

They said it just because there was a reddit post that got a lot of attention. This has been in their ToS probably since 2021. Still doesn't make the wording ok.

Mila MojoHost · 03-29-2024, 01:13 AM

Update: Vultr is responding by changing the wording in the ToS and claiming that they are HIPAA, GDPR, and DPDPA compliant and they don't own any content.

King Mark · 03-29-2024, 06:16 AM

I remember talking Brad into giving me Vultr prices on Mojo. That's the day he became my homie.

Mila MojoHost · 03-29-2024, 10:15 AM

Yeah, Brad is awesome. Vultr prices paired with Good Mojo sounds like a great deal!

CustomBusinessSoftware · 03-31-2024, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mila MojoHost

Yep! It is probably not even legal. But who knows after you've accepted all their Terms and conditions?

most ppl accept all Terms and conditions even without reading a single line of it.

CaptainHowdy · 03-31-2024, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CustomBusinessSoftware

most ppl accept all Terms and conditions even without reading a single line of it.

$tandaman · 03-31-2024, 06:05 PM

Isn't Vaultr Choopa

Mila MojoHost · 03-31-2024, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CustomBusinessSoftware

most ppl accept all Terms and conditions even without reading a single line of it.

Guilty! For most personal things..

but if you have a business and the hosting company has a contract, you better read all of it, including the ToS.

Major Tom Thanks Duke · 04-01-2024, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

Isn't Vaultr Choopa

Yep
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NatalieMojoHost · 04-01-2024, 02:43 AM

My favorite comment on that reddit thread was "Jokes on them, I stole all my content." It had me nearly spit out my coffee.

ladida · 04-02-2024, 01:23 AM

Vultr are clowns anyway. So many hosting companies and if you choose to host there, there must be something wrong with your head.

Mila MojoHost · 04-11-2024, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost

My favorite comment on that reddit thread was "Jokes on them, I stole all my content." It had me nearly spit out my coffee.

Yep. One of my personal favorites too. That's how you teach them a lesson.

03-28-2024, 10:08 AM	#1
Mila MojoHost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 38	Cloud Company Owns All The Content It Hosts?!? A mainstream automated cloud infrastructure called VULTR (very fitting name) has the following claim hidden in point 12 of its Terms of Service: " You hereby grant to Vultr a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, fully paid-up, worldwide license (including the right to sublicense through multiple tiers) to use, reproduce, process, adapt, publicly perform, publicly display, modify, prepare derivative works, publish, transmit and distribute each of your User Content, or any portion thereof, in any form, medium or distribution method now known or hereafter existing, known or developed, and otherwise use and commercialize the User Content in any way that Vultr deems appropriate, without any further consent, notice and/or compensation to you or to any third parties, for purposes of providing the Services to you." So VULTR owns whatever you host on their servers and is free to use it. Additionally, last week they announced Cloud Inference: a solution built on a serverless architecture that simplifies the integration and deployment of AI models regardless of their training environment. The conclusion? They will most probably use the content they are hosting to train their AI model. TL;DR: Always read the ToS when you are buying a service and choose carefully your webhosting provider. A lot of business out there are not their to help you achieve your goals.

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Mila MojoHost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 38	Update: Vultr is responding by changing the wording in the ToS and claiming that they are HIPAA, GDPR, and DPDPA compliant and they don't own any content.

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Mila MojoHost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 38	Yeah, Brad is awesome. Vultr prices paired with Good Mojo sounds like a great deal!

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