King Mark

Or we waiting until it's too late again?

wankawonk

I brought it up here maybe 6 months ago and was told "this belongs in politics&more"

as if its purely a political issue and not relevant to our business interests

so no, I don't think we're ready to have this conversation until its too late. republicans have the blinders on. a guy I work with literally said "it should die down if trump gets elected."

we might be fucked.

pornlaw

Project 2025 is the wish list of a conservative think tank.

Its not Trumps policies. He may or may not adopt them if elected.

Same thing happened when Reagan got elected. The gave him a conservative road map of what they would like to see happen. He adopted about 50% of them.

Trump is the closest we've had to a pornographer in the White House. He loves escorts. Cheats on his wife. Appeared in Playboy and distributed porn in his hotels.

I highly doubt a porn ban will happen.

However, AVS has a chance to kill the industry before that happens anyway. And AVS laws have already been passed in 17 states by both Democrats and Republicans.

So if you want to talk about what may take us out... talk about what reality is.

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King Mark

I tried this conversation too. Already too late for that one.

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mainstreammix

Imagine saying this shit knowing that Slick Willy and JFK were there. Just pure dishonesty.

CaptainHowdy

I'm convinced . . .

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Conversations about AV legislation need to stay in this main forum.

It's the most important conversation to be having right now. Besides the business implications, the newly enacted laws in various states all trample over portions of our Constitutional rights. AND, none of them actually protect children, they'll simply switch traffic to sites that are run worse and care less about what content they are purveying, be it copyright, CSAM, or other abusive material.

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jscott

Americans & porn survived Trump before and will survive him again.

King Mark, you're just looking desperate.

mainstreammix

Let's ask ChatGPT

What does Project 2025 say about porn?

And why is jscott so retarded?

It wouldn't be appropriate for me to respond directly so to answer this question please refer to the title of this video.

King Mark

Guess we'll be waiting until it's too late... again

Gonna stock up on my popcorn.

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I'm never prepared for anything . . .

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Someone people are are easily fooled and believe the election year nonsense.

Democrats are literally talking about subverting democracy by installing a candidate of their choice, not the people's choice. These are the people who whose only platform up until now has been "We must save our democracy". It's fucking lunacy.

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More than 7.5 billion people in the world don't care. They are many other countries besides the US.

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Project 2025 "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" is 922 pages. In the forward on page 5 it states, "Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered."

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Interesting, since Vance's (Trump's Vice President pick) public Venmo contact list has "leaked":

J.D. Vance, a Republican US senator and Trump’s running mate left his Venmo account public, exposing his list of “friends,” from fellow Yale Law grads to tech executives—precisely the elites he rallies against. WIRED found that more than 200 people appear on Vance’s Venmo “friends” list. This includes Amalia Halikias, a director at the Heritage Foundation—the force behind Project 2025 (https://www.heritage.org/conservatis...y/project-2025). And that’s not all.

Vance’s Venmo friend’s list also includes media personalities like Bari Weiss and Tucker Carlson, as well as tech executives from Anthropic and AOL. And while Vance has frequently positioned himself as anti-elite, condemning “elite universities,” calling them “expensive day care centers for coddled children,” his connections reveal a more complex relationship with establishment figures.

“If someone who is a candidate for vice president hasn’t changed his privacy settings, I don't know how a company can expect the rest of us to stay on top of this,” Jennifer Lynch, general counsel at civil liberties nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, tells WIRED.

Read the full story: https://www.wired.com/story/jd-vance-venmo

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crockett

Yeah he totally wouldn't ban porn, abortion or contraceptives to appease the religious right...

oh wait...

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Huggles

Both sides are playing for the same system hundreds of years in the making...

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King Mark

There's no both sides around this subject pertaining to this industry. This isn't Republican vs Democrat. This is ultra religious conservative vs liberal progressive.

Project 2025 is way on the ultra religious conservative side of the spectrum. This is a liberal progressive industry.

Project 2025 is a plan for when Trump wins, he already implemented 2/3rds of their previous plan last time he won. They're just an idea waiting for the next conservative president under Biden.

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Huggles

Any "war on porn" would make the "war on drugs" look successful in comparison.

They can't make porn illegal or outlawed, it would be impossible. The whole dystopian "under his eye" style of "handmaiden" politics is so far from actually happening.

Nobody is ever putting the porn genie back into the bottle, I mean, look at our phones, they are basically built and designed to make it as easy as possible to make your own porn and view porn anywhere, anytime.

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King Mark

I hear you in Canada, but down here in America it's already starting via AV laws.

Now, you don't have to care if you're not in the industry, not American and/or you don't monetize Americans. But for everybody else, it's real... and started already.

mainstreammix

Oh, well I guess we'll just ignore this then.

https://static.project2025.org/2025_...rship_FULL.pdf

King Mark

I can understand being fiscally conservative in this industry, but being a hard line socially conservative in this socially liberal progressive industry makes absolutely no sense.

Some of yall either forgot the difference, or became enemy agents of the industry for reasons you won't admit.

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INever

Her cute soft lez vid and a nice oiled up nude pic. You see them in '16? Great.

Whether she was an escort or not shouldn't matter, right amigo?

Cheat? ... is this a red state high school forum?

Centuries? On acid it felt like forever.

The scripts are barely convincing anymore. Haven't been for a few decades now.

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The funny part is I'm actually fiscally conservative & socially liberal but the basement dwellers can't comprehend that due to their "programing"..

The reality is Democrats are more fiscally conservative than Republicans these days. Things like universally healthcare & free education are fiscally conservative because it lowers the prices keeps the population heathier and more educated people grow the economy. The Democrats also understand that making lower earners pay all the taxes is a recipe for disaster and over the long term destroys the economy..

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mainstreammix

Why does Trump keep proving his loyal minions here to be liars?

https://newrepublic.com/post/183735/...ect-2025-video

jscott

Donald Trump calling Project 2025 far right & opposite of the Radical Left.

https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1814792183431766513

He's destroying the dishonest left wing attack.


Holy shit Newrepublic is further left than MSNBC! Didn't think it was even possible.

mainstreammix

It's a video of Trump you sniveling little fuckstick. You being as dumb as you are is offensive to everyone.

King Mark

Keep in mind, Vance was Heritage Foundation's presidential pick.

Vance is now Trump's VP pick... immediately after he first said he knew nothing about this or who was involved 🤣

"NoThInG tO sEe hErE" - blind followers

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A collection of the too stupid and too shitty.

King Mark

Today:

"In my second term, I will appoint rock-solid conservative judges and we will totally transform the federal bench"

"Peter Navarro (Project 2025 author) is coming back in my second term"

"You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again"

-Trump

Sauce: https://youtu.be/Wedu_YEfy6M

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JD Vance, Trump's VP pick, literally wrote the forward for the book written by the director of Project 2025

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This. I don't plan on returning to my country of origin. That's how seriously I'm taking this. Brad Parscale is a real motherfucker digitally and this will be a problem for all of us with American ties.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ed-1235069397/

Trump Tells Christians They Won’t Have to Vote in Future: ‘We’ll Have It Fixed’

During an event in Florida, the former president urged attendees to vote and said that if reelected, they "won’t have to do it anymore"

pornlaw

Pence was a religious fanatic -- he didnt do anything to alter policy during Trumps first term.

Trump is an ego-maniac. He's not going to give Vance anything important to do. He's probably not going to give him anything to do at all.

What did Pence do during his first term?

His big accomplishment - the Space Force...

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King Mark

Is that a gamble you're willing to take as an industry lawyer?

"Let's vote for it anyway, Trump ain't going to implement at least 2/3rds of Heritage Foundations current plan this term like he did for their last plan his last term... because Pence was pussy"

You a wild boy 🤣





https://x.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1811402883604050216



https://www.heritage.org/impact/trum...ecommendations

"One year after taking office, President Donald Trump and his administration have embraced nearly two-thirds of the policy recommendations from The Heritage Foundation’s “Mandate for Leadership.”



Thankfully, new developments have made this a non issue. The backfire happened already since the start of this thread. So no worries anymore.

#Kamala2024

mainstreammix

The fucking emojis. LMAO

pornlaw

Are you willing to take a chance on Harris ?

Harris v. Trump

Harris's record when it comes to sex work and the adult industry...

"In 2008, Harris opposed Proposition K — a measure that aimed to decriminalize sex work — while district attorney of San Francisco. “I think it’s completely ridiculous, just in case there’s any ambiguity about my position,” Harris said at the time. “It would put a welcome mat out for pimps and prostitutes to come on into San Francisco.”

"Harris rejected efforts to decriminalize sex work by claiming that it contributed to the transmission of HIV/AIDS."

Harris supported FOSTA/SESTA, whose 2018 passage led to the removal of at least a dozen sites and pages that provide sex workers with life-saving mechanisms of finding safe work.

"Harris was a nationwide leader in targeting websites that offered sex workers a means of identifying and vetting potential clients."

Harris's current view on sex work decriminalization is rooted in the controversial “Nordic Model.”

Trump's record when it comes to the sex industry...

Heritage Project 2025 that Trump has already distanced himself from.

Donald Trump, himself, has appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, and has proudly performed as an “actor” in three different Playboy-produced “softcore” pornography videos in 1999, 2001, and 2004 (Moye, 2016). He was always fully clothed, but in other scenes in these films, many women were naked.

In 2013 his Trump Taj Mahal casino became the first-ever casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, to have an in-house strip
club. It featured young women stripped almost naked in G-strings and “pasties,” with lap-dancing. His casino in Las Vegas also hosts two topless reviews and a semi-nude “go-go club.”

All Trump Hotels in the U.S. however (except for two in the deep South) offer XXX pornography to their guests
(Gould, 2016). At Trump Hotels, well-to-do executives and families in their $250/night luxury rooms can relax over fine French champagne while watching “Teen-Age Sluts,” “Deep Throat,” or “Hot, Horny Latin Bimbos.”

Trump has paid for sex, and even paid for sex from one pornstar.

Trump has widely distributed porn and profited off of it.

Little known fact -- Fredrich Trump made his way to Seattle, where he opened a brothel in the center of a “red-light” district with an adjacent bar and restaurant. In 1894, he opened the first Trump Hotel in nearby Monte Cristo, Washington, again featuring a fancy brothel and a bar. In 1898 as the gold rush began, he relocated to Bennett, British Columbia, and opened the Arctic Hotel, which featured a large gambling area and another elaborate brothel. (Each room used for prostitution had a bed and a scale for weighing the gold dust often used as payment.)

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jscott

A vote for Kamala is a vote for communism.

Remember, her goal as a politician, she claims, is to make sure we ALL end up in the same place - aka: communism.

King Mark

Yes. You're describing Trump from when he identified as a proud Democrat and was actively donating to multiple Kamala campaigns himself 🤣 if that's the version of Trump you support, then you're willing to take a chance on Harris too, like he did.

That ain't the version of Trump of today who transitioned and now identifies as a radical Republican for money, blatantly lying about not knowing who's behind Project 2025 or what it is and then recruiting one of them as his VP pick right in front of your face at a time when he's mad at Stormy Daniels for turning him into a felon and is hell-bent on revenge.

Surely, as a law guy, you know the difference between someone not keen on hastily legalizing street prostitution and gorilla pimping compared to someone who has a VP pick that proudly and blatantly (in writing) wants to turn the entire legit adult industry into sex offending criminals?

#Kamala2024

dyna mo

trump's running to stay out of jail,not to implement any policy. he'll let his cronies run policy while he golfs, like he did when he was potus. that's why he picked pro-heritage nitwit jd vance.

pornlaw

It's fascinating when someone on the Left talks out both sides of their mouth...

The Left loves to paint Trump as a serial liar, but only when it fits their agenda.

You hang on points that I personally think he's lying about. Quite honestly, I think most of what comes out of Trumps mouth are lies.

We've seen Trump lie in 2016. He didn't accomplish most of what he said he would.

Where's the wall?

I don't think a leopard changes his spots. He was lying then, as he is lying now.

But what I do know, is what Harris has actually DONE. She has a record of being anti-sex work and anti-prostitution, and thus anti-porn. That's clear.

Trump didn't do anything to disrupt the industry from 2016 to 2020. He could have. The same Evangelicals were around him then as they are now. But he didn't.

So you want to vote for someone that has a proven track record of policies that have damaged the sex industry over someone that you THINK might damage the sex industry.

Make it make sense, please.

If you want to align with Harris over other issues, I completely understand that.

But what Trump will do to porn shouldn't be the hill you die on...

And Ill add this - if Harris picks Mark Kelly from Arizona as VP (Obama's 1st pick for Prez), she will be hard to beat. He will boost her quite a bit.

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King Mark

Yes, we know he's a liar. I proved it in this thread after he said he knew nothing about or who was involved with Project 2025. That's the current lie here in this topic. Being that he's denying it, and you admitting he's a liar that does nothing he says he does, we agree. He's saying he not implementing Project 2025, which means he likely would... Or he'd be saying he would and wouldn't (what a fuckin disaster of a leader) 🤣

But like I said before, it's a non-issue now. This is a relatively old thread compared to what has transpired after it was created. There's no more hill for me to die on here.

But my question to you is, if you have all this negative stuff to say about Trump being nothing but a liar, why on are earth are you here supporting and defending him? 🤣

pornlaw

First I am not supporting or defending him. Just because I oppose your false claims about Harris doesnt mean I support him.

There is a lot of fearmongering by the Democrats. Correcting fearmongering isnt support. Its called fact checking. Harris isnt better for the adult industry. So far she's been worse. That is simply a fact.

I really dont care who wins, I dont vote and I live in the Netherlands.

Well to be honest, I care a little. When Trump was President, the dollar was quite strong against the Euro. I lost a lot on exchange rates. Biden's economic policy weaken the dollar and I made more money. So the Democrats are better for my wallet but overall Trump is better for the economy thus also the industry and ultimately better for my wallet.

But I go back to my original point, it isnt Trump (or Harris) that we really need to be afraid of -- its what SCOTUS will do with the Texas AVS case next year.

That will show us how this SCOTUS feels about porn being protected speech. If they uphold the Texas law, then yes, we have some serious issues not only with AVS, but further attacks on porn. Nothing happens before that case is decided. If they once again protect porn as a First Amendment right, you can be assured no one is going to outlaw porn or ban it or put pornographers in jail.

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Tasty1

How much more prostitutues is Kamala going to be let killed, by not recognizing their work as a legitimate job?
Putting them in danger without any protection?

As man you won't like the Nordic model, or you must sell sexdolls.
The Dutch model where prostitution is legal and equal as a freelancer protects them more and give them rights.

Get them bankaccounts, mortgages, healthcare and they can pay tax.

Altough there are too much rules now in Holland.

What is Kamala doing for "The Industry"? Is The Industry already lobbying with Kamala?

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No wonder 🤣

Now your nonsense makes sense tho. None of this pertains to you, so you just playing games. Like wanting Trump back, but role-playing as scared of what the SCOTUS might do, a SCOTUS he put in place from a list provided by, you guessed it, Heritage Foundation 🤣

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-j...t-nominee-list

Well ain't that just another happy coincidence from the guy who knows nothing about this or who's involved? 🤣

The Trumphausen Syndrome is real with you.

Thankfully it's #Kamala2024 time now. So no worries.

Respectfully, with Love, from those that live here and vote 🇺🇲

King Mark

Is this an example of Democrat fear mongering?

Every normal person in America has sided with Kamala now. And thankfully, the normals are the majority here these days. I'm obnoxious and loud so I understand if you won't take my word for it, but the silent majority about to make another very clear example, again... I don't know if you've actually been watching 🤣

Thanks for y'all's foreign opinions , but us Americans got this bro ✊

#Kamala2024 🇺🇲

pornlaw

This...

Harris put two of my clients out of business. Two large escorting sites - poof - gone when she cut deals with Silicon Valley and shoved FOSTA/SESTA through because she got her ass handed to her TWICE by a federal judge... and her ego just couldnt take it.

Harris sucked her way to the Vice Presidency - she was basically a sex worker - and once she made it - she did exactly what every incompetent ladder climber does - she pulled up the ladder behind her.

Harris's SESTA/FOSTA put sex workers back on the street - back into the hands of pimps and abusers... which probably led to countless deaths and beatings. And it directly led to the death of Lacey one of the founders of Backpage.com

So keep pushing Harris - you will get what you want. Someone who hates sex work, who hates those who pay sex workers and doesnt care if they die...

Yeah we will be much better off if she gets into office...

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King Mark

🤣

We know what the real problem is now bro. We won't speak about it, but there's a reason 2 Dutch dudes are circle jerking each other "slut shaming" Kamala from the Netherlands, while us actual Americans are installing her as our President.

Michael Lacey isn't even dead bro 🤣 how you accusing anybody of fear mongering while you sit here lying blaming Kamala for the death of a dude that's still alive? 🤣 Bro's literally still waiting on sentencing for his money laundering conviction.

#Harris2024 - time for the old lying criminals to go! 🇺🇲