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ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 06:51 AM

The sheep/cattle/lemmings or whatever other animal kingdom metaphor of the day you like say America is falling and George Bush is Hitler. Another round of Nazi regimes, Stalin regimes, World Wars, and a great Depression is coming and coming fast. The four horsemen are riding again.

My mass hysteria meter is going off the charts. The only other times in my life it reached this level was during the dot com boom, the Rubik's cube craze of 1979, and the 1975 pet rocks ruckus.

News flash! You guys sound like the National Enquirer. Neo-Nazi's, fascism, the great coming depression, and the end times. Your words exactly echo none other than the covers of the weekly tabloids we Americans have seen in Publix, Winn Dixie, Wegmans, and Piggly Wiggly for the past 20 years. Congratulations on your wisdom.

Well this is the pied piper telling you brainwashed huddles masses that I've lifted my lamp beside the golden door. Enter ye the Kingdom of all that is Good. Liberate yourself!

Bex · 05-30-2003, 06:57 AM

Riiiight?

theking · 05-30-2003, 07:00 AM

Yes...I have been convinced that I am a stupid/sheep that has been brainwashed...by that evil incarnate Bush...and I now feel the opression...suffer from my loss of freedom...and am hoarding dried and canned foods in fear of the economic collaspe that is going to take place next month.

LeeNoga · 05-30-2003, 07:02 AM

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C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-30-2003, 07:08 AM

dude, please..where do you get your info

sounds worse than the hell fire and damnation preachers.

12clicks · 05-30-2003, 07:24 AM

We're stupid, our leaders are stupid, our lives are miserable, and we're so simple, we won't even move to a different country.

Paul Markham · 05-30-2003, 07:34 AM

You know what I love about Americans?

The way they take criticism, the wat it just rolls off their backs. The way they sit and think "Does the guy have a point or not?"

The confidence you show.

Of course don't get a lot that from SOME people here, but what the heck.

If you think you're the best act like it.

LeeNoga · 05-30-2003, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
We're stupid, our leaders are stupid, our lives are miserable, and we're so simple, we won't even move to a different country.

12Clicks, look real close.

Closer.

CLOSER.

Damn, your slow, the tear dried up

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
dude, please..where do you get your info

sounds worse than the hell fire and damnation preachers.

Not everyone copy's and paste's their responses ;-)

Rochard · 05-30-2003, 07:52 AM

Next Stop: Saudi Arabia. Where men are men and sheep are scared!!!!

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard
Next Stop: Saudi Arabia. Where men are men and sheep are scared!!!!

LMFAO

Gutterboy · 05-30-2003, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by theking
Yes...I have been convinced that I am a stupid/sheep that has been brainwashed...

You are not the only one you've convinced of that.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 07:58 AM

Paul Markham · 05-30-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy

You are not the only one you've convinced of that.

No you have it wrong, he's a comic genius.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
We're stupid, our leaders are stupid, our lives are miserable, and we're so simple, we won't even move to a different country.

We're only stupid for not standing up to our stupid leaders and believing the sugar coated lies.

Our leaders ARE stupid and make stupid laws that only help themselves.

Our lives are not that bad... yet... but they are getting there if these stupid leaders are allowed to remain in office

Wake up America.... think for your self and question what your leaders tell you. To NOT take what they say as truth because they are only half thruths, double talk or what ever you want to call it.

I have only one word for my fellow Americans.......

REVOLUTION

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

We're only stupid for not standing up to our stupid leaders and believing the sugar coated lies.

Our leaders ARE stupid and make stupid laws that only help themselves.

Our lives are not that bad... yet... but they are getting there if these stupid leaders are allowed to remain in office

Wake up America.... think for your self and question what your leaders tell you. To NOT take what they say as truth because they are only half thruth, double talk or what ever you want to call it.

I have only one word for my fellow Americans.......

REVOLUTION

Distrust of government is not in any way new. This is certainly not the first generation to distrust government. What do you think the entire world-wide move towards democracy has been about? Reducing authority, reducing control, reducing power vested in single individuals. What was the French third estate bitching about in 1789, why did a House of Commons appear to balance the House of Lords in Britain, why did Locke and Paine argue and influence governments to diffuse power through systems of checks and balances?

The US is a common-law system modeled and adapted from the British one. It's not like our "leaders" just sit around and make up laws. The US system of laws is a combination of congressional legislation with executive agreement, interpretation and revision through common law and judicial review ending finally in the Supreme Court if the situation should warrant.

Business as usual ...

kenny · 05-30-2003, 08:12 AM

We are a opressed people we don't even have roads paved in gold. I want gold houses.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

I have only one word for my fellow Americans.......

REVOLUTION

A revolution? They usually don't end so well. What do you propose as a new form of government?

markell · 05-30-2003, 08:16 AM

crack kills

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

A revolution? They usually don't end so well. What do you propose as a new form of government?

Seems out first revolution turned out ok...

I propose a "true" democracy... not this one sided shit that we have not.

Again... just my

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by kenny
We are a opressed people we don't even have roads paved in gold. I want gold houses.

Kenny,

You didn't buy the Franklin Mint 24k Collector's Edition Monopoly Set? I thought every American had one.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

I propose a "true" democracy... not this one sided shit that we have not.

You'd prefer an According-to-Hoyle Democracy than a Republic then? Everyone votes on laws and the majority wins instead of electing representatives?

What would you keep of the congress, the president, and the court system? How would executive action be taken? Would you still have an office of the president?

Groove · 05-30-2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
Do you feel sorry for Americans?

There are many reasons to feel sorry...

But you failed to articulate them...

So I feel more sorry for YOU

SABAI · 05-30-2003, 08:23 AM

not sure if its the right forum to start with this shit again but...

oh well...

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

You'd prefer an According-to-Hoyle Democracy than a Republic then? Everyone votes on laws and the majority wins instead of electing representatives?

What would you keep of the congress, the president, and the court system? How would executive action be taken? Would you still have an office of the president?

Hmmmm, all these questions... are you looking to get this started?

[Labret] · 05-30-2003, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

You'd prefer an According-to-Hoyle Democracy than a Republic then? Everyone votes on laws and the majority wins instead of electing representatives?

Either way it is still idiots electing idiots.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

Either way it is still idiots electing idiots.

That's why I always vote for myself as a write-in I cannot be any worse that the idiot's that actually get elected.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

Either way it is still idiots electing idiots.

Doesn't seem to be much of an option.You'll probably like this one, Labret. How about an intellectual poll test? You take a test and the higher you score the more votes you get. ;-)

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Groove

There are many reasons to feel sorry...

But you failed to articulate them...

So I feel more sorry for YOU

It was a rhetorical question. You don't have those where you live?

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:34 AM

Labret,

Nice sig.

[Labret] · 05-30-2003, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

Doesn't seem to be much of an option.You'll probably like this one, Labret. How about an intellectual poll test? You take a test and the higher you score the more votes you get. ;-)

I can hear the cries of racism already.

The black, mexican, female, and conservative vote would disappear. Our next president would be Asian or a Trekkie.

I can deal with that.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

Hmmmm, all these questions... are you looking to get this started?

Sure. What do you have in mind?

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

Sure. What do you have in mind?

Still working on ......

eroswebmaster · 05-30-2003, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

We're only stupid for not standing up to our stupid leaders and believing the sugar coated lies.

Our leaders ARE stupid and make stupid laws that only help themselves.

Our lives are not that bad... yet... but they are getting there if these stupid leaders are allowed to remain in office

Wake up America.... think for your self and question what your leaders tell you. To NOT take what they say as truth because they are only half thruths, double talk or what ever you want to call it.

I have only one word for my fellow Americans.......

REVOLUTION

Dude you don't even know how to question a simple HBO documentary don't tell us how to think.

12clicks · 05-30-2003, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

Seems out first revolution turned out ok...

I propose a "true" democracy... not this one sided shit that we have not.

Again... just my

here's some rope, now lets see if you hang yourself:

true democracy is a bad form of government.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Dude you don't even know how to question a simple HBO documentary don't tell us how to think.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

here's some rope, now lets see if you hang yourself:

true democracy is a bad form of government.

12clicks · 05-30-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

I'd be afraid to tackle that too. you'd expose yourself as a shouter of slogans, not a thinker of thoughts.

12clicks · 05-30-2003, 09:00 AM

well, this oppressed fool is off for a round of golf.

fucking government.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

I'd be afraid to tackle that too. you'd expose yourself as a shouter of slogans, not a thinker of thoughts.

No, not afraid to tackle it... just thought it was funny... still do.

What you you suggest if not a true democracy?

SexySarah · 05-30-2003, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

you'd expose yourself as a shouter of slogans, not a thinker of thoughts.

Oh. My. God.

That's rich coming from you.

Regards,

SexySarah

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

No, not afraid to tackle it... just thought it was funny... still do.

What you you suggest if not a true democracy?

I suggest a Republic with tripartite division of powers.

Gutterboy · 05-30-2003, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

No, not afraid to tackle it... just thought it was funny... still do.

What you you suggest if not a true democracy?

It shouldn't take a whole lot of brainpower to figure out why mob rule is not the best form of government.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 09:09 AM

I don't know why anyone would think that letting people that live in mobile home parks would somehow make better governmental decisions than oil barons. Maybe it's just me but I feel a lot better represented by oil barons.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

I suggest a Republic with tripartite division of powers.

Ok, and this would be better why?

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

Ok, and this would be better why?

It's not better. It's what we have now.

NBDesign · 05-30-2003, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
I don't know why anyone would think that letting people that live in mobile home parks would somehow make better governmental decisions than oil barons. Maybe it's just me but I feel a lot better represented by oil barons.

Because people in mobile homes are not as likely to be as corrupt as oil barrons... All they care about is lining their pockets... nothing more...

If you really think that our government actually does anything it does for their people... wake up and get a clue. There is always a hidden ajenda... either... to get re-elected, line their pockets etc...

Hell, look at all the lies that the US govt. has been caught in already... The Iraq war... the harmfullness of certain products and so on.

For example... if the US govt was so concerned about the health issues of smoking, they would have punished the tobacco company (as they did with fines) but they should have put a price freeze on the price per pack... hit them where they live.. the wallet.

Do you know where most of that tobacco settlement money went?

Here... read this.

Up In Smoke!
How Are States Spending Their Tobacco Settlement Funds?

Remember that huge settlement between the states and tobacco companies in 1998? The tobacco companies agreed to pay $200 billion to the states to help pay for medical costs from smoking-related illnesses, and to help prevent kids from smoking. The settlement was hailed as a legal victory against "Big Tobacco."

President Clinton called the deal "a milestone in the long struggle to protect our children." (Politicians always stress protecting "the children.") Washington state's attorney general, Christine Gregoire, said: "These lawsuits by these attorneys general were on behalf of those 3,000 children who were addicted every day." New York's then-Attorney General Dennis Vacco said, "We're going to save the kids of America."

But once the checks arrived, most of the promises regarding kids went up in smoke.

Michael Horowitz of the Hudson Institute once called the tobacco settlement "the foulest, rankest scandal" he'd ever seen. Now that the money is in play, I see what Horowitz meant.

While much of the money did go to programs like Medicaid, the General Accounting Office says less than 7 percent of it has gone to anti-smoking programs. Where else did it go?

In North Carolina, politicians gave $200,000 to a place that holds horse-riding competitions.

A county golf course in New York got almost $1 million, including $200,000 for golf carts.

And of course the lawyers got even more. Dickie Scruggs, brother-in-law of Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., is said to be getting more than $800 million. Peter Angelos, who's rich enough to own the Baltimore Orioles, is getting $150 million.

Yet Mike Moore, Mississippi's attorney general, had the nerve to call the tobacco deal "probably the finest hour for trial lawyers in America."

Tobacco farmer Bobby Bisset agrees with Moore. He thinks it probably was their finest hour, "because they made a lot of money out of it."

And guess who else got some money out of it? Tobacco farmers like Bissett.

"Why shouldn't I get some of the money?" Bissett asked.

"After the money gets to rolling in, everybody gets interested in money," said Keith Beavers, a North Carolina tobacco farmer.

They sure do. North Carolina has now spent more than $42 million to help the tobacco industry, giving some of its settlement money to a tobacco auction house and a museum of tobacco farming.

The states say all this will help create jobs and stimulate the economy.

The bureaucrats cut a deal promising they'll help stop kids from smoking. But who was really helped? Rich lawyers got richer and farmers got help producing tobacco.

Give me a break!

Commentary
By John Stossel
ABC News

Gutterboy · 05-30-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

Because people in mobile homes are not as likely to be as corrupt as oil barrons...

Not corrupt, or is their corruption just not as visible as the misdeeds of a public figure who controls a billion dollar corporation?

Assuming someone is moral when they've really just not had the opportunity to do evil is incredibly naieve.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

Because people in mobile homes are not as likely to be as corrupt as oil barrons

If you really think that our government actually does anything it does for their people... wake up and get a clue. There is always a hidden ajenda... either... to get re-elected, line their pockets etc...

You really believe this? What kind of laws do you think people that live in mobile homes would pass through the hallowed halls of congress? My guess is they would pass laws that would benefit people that live in mobile homes. I'm a lot closer to being an oil baron than living in a trailer park so I'll take my chances. Thanks.

Nothing done "for the people"? The legal code is filled with laws "for the people". Nearly every law is for "the people". How did we get a Bill of Rights, Civil Rights Act, FCC Regulations, "fairness in the workplace" legislation, anti-monopoly acts, anti-trust acts, universal suffrage and so forth. The general trend is towards greater rights and liberties for more and more people.

ADL Colin · 05-30-2003, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

If you really think that our government actually does anything it does for their people... wake up and get a clue. There is always a hidden ajenda... either... to get re-elected, line their pockets etc...

Voting to get re-elected requires that one votes in line with their constituency which is exactly what you are arguing for. You're saying people should have a more direct voice in their government and if a congressman votes the way of the majority of their constituency they have done exactly that.

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Do you feel sorry for Americans? The sheep/cattle/lemmings or whatever other animal kingdom metaphor of the day you like say America is falling and George Bush is Hitler. Another round of Nazi regimes, Stalin regimes, World Wars, and a great Depression is coming and coming fast. The four horsemen are riding again. My mass hysteria meter is going off the charts. The only other times in my life it reached this level was during the dot com boom, the Rubik's cube craze of 1979, and the 1975 pet rocks ruckus. News flash! You guys sound like the National Enquirer. Neo-Nazi's, fascism, the great coming depression, and the end times. Your words exactly echo none other than the covers of the weekly tabloids we Americans have seen in Publix, Winn Dixie, Wegmans, and Piggly Wiggly for the past 20 years. Congratulations on your wisdom. Well this is the pied piper telling you brainwashed huddles masses that I've lifted my lamp beside the golden door. Enter ye the Kingdom of all that is Good. Liberate yourself! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

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12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,788	We're stupid, our leaders are stupid, our lives are miserable, and we're so simple, we won't even move to a different country. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	You know what I love about Americans? The way they take criticism, the wat it just rolls off their backs. The way they sit and think "Does the guy have a point or not?" The confidence you show. Of course don't get a lot that from SOME people here, but what the heck. If you think you're the best act like it. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	dude, please..where do you get your info sounds worse than the hell fire and damnation preachers.

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12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,788	well, this oppressed fool is off for a round of golf. fucking government. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	I don't know why anyone would think that letting people that live in mobile home parks would somehow make better governmental decisions than oil barons. Maybe it's just me but I feel a lot better represented by oil barons. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink" Last edited by ADL Colin; 05-30-2003 at 09:12 AM..