USA Slavery map vs. Election results map

[marzzo]

haha, this is great. Do you see any similarities?

Free States and Slave States, before the Civil War






Blue States and Red States, after the 2004 Presidential Election

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Makes sense.

[AndrewKanuck]

Haha BOOYA

[SleazyDream]

interesting

[BRISK]

[detoxed]

Because blacks live in the red areas, and blacks are all republicans right?

[detoxed]

Want to know why the North didnt have slavery? Its economy didnt need it. No other reason.

[sixxxthsense]

Originally posted by BRISK

[Wiggles]

Originally posted by detoxed
Want to know why the North didnt have slavery? Its economy didnt need it. No other reason.

Exactly, its operated on manufacturing, south needed slave labour for agriculture.

[Dildozer]

Originally posted by detoxed
Want to know why the North didnt have slavery? Its economy didnt need it. No other reason.

Yep just like invading Iraq

[Moose]

I don't get it.

[Shoehorn!]

Come on, how do any of us know what states really had slavery and which didn't. I for one don't believe 80% of what I read in schoolbooks or anywhere else for that matter. How does anyone alive today know what really went on over 100 years ago? They don't. Have you ever played telephone? You go around in a circle of 15 or 20 people and by the time the original message gets back to the first person it has usually changed drastically, and that is only in a few minutes time with a few people. Imagine how much things get skewed over a span of 100 plus years and millions of people.

It's just like saying no two snowflakes are alike, they cannot prove that. They would have to examine every single snowflake that has ever fallen in the history of the world and compare them to all the other snowflakes. Impossible. To me this map holds no merit whatsoever. But I am naive, because I don't believe everything I hear.

[detoxed]

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
Come on, how do any of us know what states really had slavery and which didn't. I for one don't believe 80% of what I read in schoolbooks or anywhere else for that matter. How does anyone alive today know what really went on over 100 years ago? They don't. Have you ever played telephone? You go around in a circle of 15 or 20 people and by the time the original message gets back to the first person it has usually changed drastically, and that is only in a few minutes time with a few people. Imagine how much things get skewed over a span of 100 plus years and millions of people.

It's just like saying no two snowflakes are alike, they cannot prove that. They would have to examine every single snowflake that has ever fallen in the history of the world and compare them to all the other snowflakes. Impossible. To me this map holds no merit whatsoever. But I am naive, because I don't believe everything I hear.

Yes and in 20 years they wont remember how mayn states are in the US right now...

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by detoxed
Yes and in 20 years they wont remember how mayn states are in the US right now...

In reality, nothing is for sure. Have a look at Hume's Paradox of Induction for example.

[BRISK]

[Easton]

what a coincedence!

[VeriSexy]

[BradM]

Originally posted by detoxed
Yes and in 20 years they wont remember how mayn states are in the US right now...

Yep. Exactly.

Some things are set in stone. The things we write down on stone tablets or parchment can be cross referenced with stories and verbal history. There is always a bit of truth to things.

130 years ago isn't that long ago in the scheme of things.

Oh yeah, I forgot where Hitler ruled. If someone says Germany I wouldn't believe them... we weren't alive then.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
Come on, how do any of us know what states really had slavery and which didn't. I for one don't believe 80% of what I read in schoolbooks or anywhere else for that matter. How does anyone alive today know what really went on over 100 years ago? They don't. Have you ever played telephone? You go around in a circle of 15 or 20 people and by the time the original message gets back to the first person it has usually changed drastically, and that is only in a few minutes time with a few people. Imagine how much things get skewed over a span of 100 plus years and millions of people.

It's just like saying no two snowflakes are alike, they cannot prove that. They would have to examine every single snowflake that has ever fallen in the history of the world and compare them to all the other snowflakes. Impossible. To me this map holds no merit whatsoever. But I am naive, because I don't believe everything I hear.

Dunno where you are from but most of our relatives owned slaves fool.

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by BradM
Yep. Exactly.

Some things are set in stone. The things we write down on stone tablets or parchment can be cross referenced with stories and verbal history. There is always a bit of truth to things.

130 years ago isn't that long ago in the scheme of things.

Oh yeah, I forgot where Hitler ruled. If someone says Germany I wouldn't believe them... we weren't alive then.

That's preposterous. Have you seen any of these stones? And I don't mean in pictures, I mean have you actually seen them in person, done your own carbon dating on them, learned the ancient language in which they were written, and translated them for yourself? If not, then you don't know. Do you speak German? Have you been to Germany and watched Hitler give any orders to anyone? I am not saying that innocent Jewish people didn't die, and I am not saying that Nazism didn't exist, I just don't believe everything I am told. I invite you to try and prove me wrong on any of my polemical statements. And "Everyone says so" or "People have been saying it for years" isn't proof in my book.

[titmowse]

Does this mean the only way the dems can win is to become Dixiecrats again?

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Dunno where you are from but most of our relatives owned slaves fool.

Proof?

[Lev]

very sad and disturbing

It is fucked up how the future of our country was decided by rednecks with an IQ similiar to our president's.

[CC]

Originally posted by marzzo
haha, this is great. Do you see any similarities?

You are truly a moron. I hate to tell you, but the Northerners thought that black people were animals just like the Southerners did. The only difference is that the South had more use for them. And no, the Civil War was not just about slavery. Try not to think too hard for any more silly theories about why you are not in touch with the rest of America....your teeny little brain might explode

[CC]

Originally posted by Lev
very sad and disturbing

It is fucked up how the future of our country was decided by rednecks with an IQ similiar to our president's.

George W. Bush's IQ is thought to be higher than that of John Kerry's. I can't believe you would insult Kerry by saying that his IQ is lower than that of a redneck!

[Paraskass]

now we know who voted for Bush.

the religious rednecks who's ancestors we're racist bitches.

[SlutFinder]

Originally posted by SleazyDream
interesting

[Joe Citizen]

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
That's preposterous. Have you seen any of these stones? And I don't mean in pictures, I mean have you actually seen them in person, done your own carbon dating on them, learned the ancient language in which they were written, and translated them for yourself? If not, then you don't know. Do you speak German? Have you been to Germany and watched Hitler give any orders to anyone? I am not saying that innocent Jewish people didn't die, and I am not saying that Nazism didn't exist, I just don't believe everything I am told. I invite you to try and prove me wrong on any of my polemical statements. And "Everyone says so" or "People have been saying it for years" isn't proof in my book.

Then you must be an atheist because there's no way you could believe in a god or a higher power.

That's the ultimate example of 'someone told me'.

[trouserrat]

Originally posted by Paraskass
now we know who voted for Bush.

the religious rednecks who's ancestors we're racist bitches.

The comments you idiots make never cease to amaze me.

[Paraskass]

Originally posted by trouserrat
The comments you idiots make never cease to amaze me.

it's the truth fucking crumb nut.

[beergood]

Originally posted by marzzo
haha, this is great. Do you see any similarities?

Free States and Slave States, before the Civil War






Blue States and Red States, after the 2004 Presidential Election

Looks like the South gained some ground...

[woodman]

Originally posted by Paraskass
it's the truth fucking crumb nut.

These rednecks are the same rednecks who have voted in Dems in the past. The issue here is that the Democratic party must move more to the center and get leaders who appeal to these so called rednecks. These "redneck" states used to be blue states until the democrats let Hollywood and the Ted Kennedy's become the face of the party.

[SomeCreep]

Bush is from Texas. White trash love him.

[beergood]

Originally posted by woodman
These rednecks are the same rednecks who have voted in Dems in the past. The issue here is that the Democratic party must move more to the center and get leaders who appeal to these so called rednecks. These "redneck" states used to be blue states until the democrats let Hollywood and the Ted Kennedy's become the face of the party.

a-fucking-men. Everyone keeps blaming this shit on the voters instead of the fucking dumbass out of touch Democratic party.

[nofx]

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
It's just like saying no two snowflakes are alike, they cannot prove that. They would have to examine every single snowflake that has ever fallen in the history of the world and compare them to all the other snowflakes. Impossible.

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s.../faqs/faqs.htm

[GatorB]

Originally posted by Wiggles
Exactly, its operated on manufacturing, south needed slave labour for agriculture.

You guess are JUSTIFYING slavery? Actually would have been MUCH cheaper to HIRE a white man to do the work than pay $1000's for ONE slave then have to house and feed that slave.

[GatorB]

Originally posted by woodman
These rednecks are the same rednecks who have voted in Dems in the past. The issue here is that the Democratic party must move more to the center and get leaders who appeal to these so called rednecks. These "redneck" states used to be blue states until the democrats let Hollywood and the Ted Kennedy's become the face of the party.

What do they need to go to the center? South peole have lowe wagers. Mininum wage increade DEM issue. Poor peole do NOT have health care. Health care DEM issue.

If preventing abortions and gay marriage means more than a high paying job( or a job period ) and health care well then when you are living in a cardboard box don't expect me to feel sorry for you.

[Paraskass]

Originally posted by GatorB
What do they need to go to the center? South peole have lowe wagers. Mininum wage increade DEM issue. Poor peole do NOT have health care. Health care DEM issue.

If preventing abortions and gay marriage means more than a high paying job( or a job period ) and health care well then when you are living in a cardboard box don't expect me to feel sorry for you.

[Matt_WildCash]

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
Come on, how do any of us know what states really had slavery and which didn't. I for one don't believe 80% of what I read in schoolbooks or anywhere else for that matter. How does anyone alive today know what really went on over 100 years ago? They don't. Have you ever played telephone? You go around in a circle of 15 or 20 people and by the time the original message gets back to the first person it has usually changed drastically, and that is only in a few minutes time with a few people. Imagine how much things get skewed over a span of 100 plus years and millions of people.

It's just like saying no two snowflakes are alike, they cannot prove that. They would have to examine every single snowflake that has ever fallen in the history of the world and compare them to all the other snowflakes. Impossible. To me this map holds no merit whatsoever. But I am naive, because I don't believe everything I hear.

LOL 100 years ago is nothing. They did have paper and writing back 200-300 years ago and its all recorded.

[woodman]

Originally posted by GatorB
What do they need to go to the center? South peole have lowe wagers. Mininum wage increade DEM issue. Poor peole do NOT have health care. Health care DEM issue.

If preventing abortions and gay marriage means more than a high paying job( or a job period ) and health care well then when you are living in a cardboard box don't expect me to feel sorry for you.

You are so bitter than you don't get the bigger picture. Its all about perception. I am not saying the democratic party needs to change is position on social issues but for whatever reason it in not selling in middle america.

one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If the dems go ahead and put another liberal senator from the northeast again in 2008 the same result will follow. Even fucking James Carvell, who knows a few things on what it takes to elect a Democratic President , was stating as much on CNN last night.

[beergood]

Originally posted by GatorB
What do they need to go to the center? South peole have lowe wagers. Mininum wage increade DEM issue. Poor peole do NOT have health care. Health care DEM issue.

If preventing abortions and gay marriage means more than a high paying job( or a job period ) and health care well then when you are living in a cardboard box don't expect me to feel sorry for you.

Kerry is an admitted flip/flop on the issues liar. He totally turned off the white moral majority and didn't attempt to pull any of that vote. Its his own damn fault he lost the election. A person is open to new ideas against traditional morality but people in a populace are strongly affected by morality.

I'm worried not because the people didn't vote out GWB, because he'll be gone in 4 years anyway, but because an idiotic campaign like the Kerry campaign was all they could put together against a candidate as weak and unpopular as GWB. What could they possibly give us for next time?

[LadyMischief]

I'm really so not surprised.

[GatorB]

Originally posted by beergood
Kerry is an admitted flip/flop on the issues liar.

first of all , ALL politcians flip flop even Bush. Look at what he said in 2000 and when he was president.

In 200o he said gay marriage was a STATES issue. When the conservatives started throwing a fit over it a year before the election then BAM, he's for a consitional admendment. In 2000 he said it's not the US job to "nation build" well WTF are we doing now? First he was against a Dept of Homeland Secuirty and a 9-11 commison when the polls said people WANTED these things then BAM, he's for them. he says goverment health is BAD, yet when the public says they want perscription drugs for seniors BAM he signs the Mediscam Drug benfit bill.

[beergood]

Originally posted by GatorB
first of all , ALL politcians flip flop even Bush. Look at what he said in 2000 and when he was president.

In 200o he said gay marriage was a STATES issue. When the conservatives started throwing a fit over it a year before the election then BAM, he's for a consitional admendment. In 2000 he said it's not the US job to "nation build" well WTF are we doing now? First he was against a Dept of Homeland Secuirty and a 9-11 commison when the polls said people WANTED these things then BAM, he's for them. he says goverment health is BAD, yet when the public says they want perscription drugs for seniors BAM he signs the Mediscam Drug benfit bill.

I'm not arguing in favor of Bush I'm saying why Kerry lost. People can change their opinion but when you take every position on every issue as blatantly as Kerry you're going to lose. The celebrity backed media whore lost.

[groark]

Originally posted by detoxed
Want to know why the North didnt have slavery? Its economy didnt need it. No other reason.

Jupp and the slum workers werent THAT better off than the slaves in the south

[Peaches]

I guess everyone has forgotten the northern states (as well as every other country) had slaves too.

As others have stated, they didn't have as many due to the lack of agriculture, but you're kidding yourselves if you think there weren't slaves in the north!

[ADL Colin]

Well, if you're talking about 1860 ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1860-Large.png

[Basic_man]

LOL ! That's so fuckin' true !!

[woodman]

take a look at the election map from 1976...just 18 years ago.

My guess is the same rednecks still live there.


http://www.presidentelect.org/e1976.html#map

[loverboy]

can't argue with that