IP allocation help please? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 03:54 PM

If my host tells me he added *.*.*.200/29 to my vlan, then what are my usable IPs?

thanks

fris · 10-26-2008, 03:58 PM

/29 is 8 ips, 6 usable im pretty sure

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

/29 is 8 ips, 6 usable im pretty sure

so 200 - 206?

or 201 - 207?

or 202 -208?

or....

marketsmart · 10-26-2008, 04:02 PM

6 usable...

fris · 10-26-2008, 04:04 PM

201-207

they should be telling you this when they email you the details

marketsmart · 10-26-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

so 200 - 206?

or 201 - 207?

or 202 -208?

or....

201-206 should be...

ping them... gateway should return reply .200 then you will know your usable are 201-206

d-null · 10-26-2008, 04:05 PM

usually 5 usable, perhaps 6

*.*.*.202 to *.*.*.206 and maybe 207

edit: and what fris said, email them ;)

d-null · 10-26-2008, 04:08 PM

when you find out the exact answer, come back to the thread and let us know what it was

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 04:11 PM

I did email them but it took 14 hours for a reply last time, I figured asking here was a better way to spend my time.

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

201-206 should be...

ping them... gateway should return reply .200 then you will know your usable are 201-206

nothing pings, I need the usable IPs so I can add them to my rc.conf

d-null · 10-26-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

nothing pings, I need the usable IPs so I can add them to my rc.conf

how many usable IP's did they tell you you were getting?

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 04:24 PM

I asked for 5, but they didnt say how many I was getting. Sometimes i really hate this particular host, they make it much harder to do business than it should be. they pulled 5 of my IPs last july and didnt even bother telling me, I just happened to notice when another 5 stopped working and complained that 10 were down, and they said oh yeah we pulled that other 5 back in July. And with over 220 IPs spread across multiple class C's, 6 servers, and three seperate hosting companies, I dont really notice when just 5 go down.

And then when I do notice, I have to go check them all. Its a pain in the ass. And then they just give me a generic answer and dont bother telling me whats usable.

d-null · 10-26-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I asked for 5, but they didnt say how many I was getting.....

ok, I am going to say 5 usable IPs, *.*.*.202 to *.*.*.206

Final Answer

Kick Ass Chat · 10-26-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I did email them but it took 14 hours for a reply last time, I figured asking here was a better way to spend my time.

If it takes 14 hrs to get a reply you are at the wrong host. Actually if it takes more than 5 mins to get a reply than you are at the wrong host.

rowan · 10-26-2008, 05:25 PM

First and last IP in the set are network and broadcast address respectively. Some hosts may also use the first usable (second actual) IP as the gateway address.

(This is just a generic answer, and I know you don't want to hear it, but you really do have to ask your host so you're 100% sure

)

rowan · 10-26-2008, 05:27 PM

BTW I don't know much about VLAN but I think it's also possible to configure it in such a way that you don't lose the network/broadcast/router IPs from the subnet, IOW a /29 is 8 usable IPs. I remember theplanet do it like this.

react · 10-26-2008, 08:01 PM

.200 network address
.201 likely gateway
.202-206 usable
.207 broadcast

It is possible they routed the space to your server in which case .201 be usable as well. Also some hosts will use another IP as gateway, perhaps last usable.

d-null · 10-26-2008, 08:53 PM

bump for Mr Pheer to tell us what was the correct answer

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by react

.200 network address
.201 likely gateway
.202-206 usable
.207 broadcast

This was correct, thanks

d-null · 10-26-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

This was correct, thanks

aww, I was hoping you'd give credit for post #13 in this thread

good to see you got things going anyways

Mr Pheer · 10-26-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null

aww, I was hoping you'd give credit for post #13 in this thread

good to see you got things going anyways

Sorry, I missed that. Yes #13 was correct as well.

TidalWave · 10-26-2008, 10:22 PM

BLOCK | SUBNET | # OF IPs

/13 255.248.0.0 512k
/14 255.252.0.0 256k
/15 255.254.0.0 128k
/16 255.255.0.0 64k
/17 255.255.128.0 32k
/18 255.255.192.0 16k
/19 255.255.224.0 8k
/20 255.255.240.0 4k
/21 255.255.248.0 2k
/22 255.255.252.0 1k
/23 255.255.254.0 512
/24 255.255.255.0 256
/25 255.255.255.128 128
/26 255.255.255.192 64
/27 255.255.255.224 32
/28 255.255.255.240 16
/29 255.255.255.248 8
/30 255.255.255.252 4
/31 255.255.255.254 2
/32 255.255.255.255 1

first 2 IPs in a block, and very last IP are unusable when assigned in a standard vlan

10-26-2008, 03:58 PM	#2
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	/29 is 8 ips, 6 usable im pretty sure __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-26-2008, 04:04 PM	#5
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	201-207 they should be telling you this when they email you the details __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-26-2008, 04:05 PM	#7
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	usually 5 usable, perhaps 6 ...202 to ...206 and maybe 207 edit: and what fris said, email them ;) __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite Last edited by d-null; 10-26-2008 at 04:06 PM..

10-26-2008, 08:01 PM	#17
react Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 673	.200 network address .201 likely gateway .202-206 usable .207 broadcast It is possible they routed the space to your server in which case .201 be usable as well. Also some hosts will use another IP as gateway, perhaps last usable. __________________ -- react

10-26-2008, 08:53 PM	#18
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	bump for Mr Pheer to tell us what was the correct answer __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

10-26-2008, 03:54 PM	#1
Mr Pheer Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,456	IP allocation help please? If my host tells me he added ..*.200/29 to my vlan, then what are my usable IPs? thanks

10-26-2008, 04:02 PM	#4
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	6 usable...

10-26-2008, 04:08 PM	#8
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	when you find out the exact answer, come back to the thread and let us know what it was

10-26-2008, 04:11 PM	#9
Mr Pheer Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,456	I did email them but it took 14 hours for a reply last time, I figured asking here was a better way to spend my time.

10-26-2008, 04:24 PM	#12
Mr Pheer Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,456	I asked for 5, but they didnt say how many I was getting. Sometimes i really hate this particular host, they make it much harder to do business than it should be. they pulled 5 of my IPs last july and didnt even bother telling me, I just happened to notice when another 5 stopped working and complained that 10 were down, and they said oh yeah we pulled that other 5 back in July. And with over 220 IPs spread across multiple class C's, 6 servers, and three seperate hosting companies, I dont really notice when just 5 go down. And then when I do notice, I have to go check them all. Its a pain in the ass. And then they just give me a generic answer and dont bother telling me whats usable.

10-26-2008, 05:25 PM	#15
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	First and last IP in the set are network and broadcast address respectively. Some hosts may also use the first usable (second actual) IP as the gateway address. (This is just a generic answer, and I know you don't want to hear it, but you really do have to ask your host so you're 100% sure )

10-26-2008, 05:27 PM	#16
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	BTW I don't know much about VLAN but I think it's also possible to configure it in such a way that you don't lose the network/broadcast/router IPs from the subnet, IOW a /29 is 8 usable IPs. I remember theplanet do it like this.

10-26-2008, 10:22 PM	#22
TidalWave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,706	BLOCK \| SUBNET \| # OF IPs /13 255.248.0.0 512k /14 255.252.0.0 256k /15 255.254.0.0 128k /16 255.255.0.0 64k /17 255.255.128.0 32k /18 255.255.192.0 16k /19 255.255.224.0 8k /20 255.255.240.0 4k /21 255.255.248.0 2k /22 255.255.252.0 1k /23 255.255.254.0 512 /24 255.255.255.0 256 /25 255.255.255.128 128 /26 255.255.255.192 64 /27 255.255.255.224 32 /28 255.255.255.240 16 /29 255.255.255.248 8 /30 255.255.255.252 4 /31 255.255.255.254 2 /32 255.255.255.255 1 first 2 IPs in a block, and very last IP are unusable when assigned in a standard vlan __________________ www.SwiftNode.com