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Old 11-01-2001, 04:54 PM   #51
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if i dont want Turkish webmasters in my program, does that mean i dont want turkish webmasters, or does it mean i dont want to pay postage to send mail to turkey?
You don't pay postage, we do.

Bottom line is this, and it happens all the time.

Resellers sign up, use bogus addresses and then wonder why they don't get any money from their sponsors.

They say they are good resellers and they won't cheat.

WTF is lying about where they live but cheating from the get go????

ASK the sponsor to be in their program -- don't LIE to them from day one and then wonder why they don't pay you.

Did Rod do a little more than light whatever mail he had?

Not for me to decide, certainly, but for everyone who does anything with him to consider I guess.
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Old 11-01-2001, 04:56 PM   #52
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what do you mean?

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Old 11-01-2001, 05:44 PM   #53
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Anyone who wants to send me their checks can. hehehehe
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Old 11-02-2001, 02:25 AM   #54
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Rockdaddy: There is frauders from whole world. At least you can chargeback your credit.

Kimmykim: Ccbill does not send checks to Turkey, its ok but you may block Turkey credit cards (its already done huh?), Turkey visitor IP addresses (I can provide you) etc.
There is really nice guys from there, reading and writing GFY and AWI. I can give you a few names.

I don't know IBILL accept or not, Turkey credit cards , or visitor IP's. But they pay to Turk webmasters. Anyway I wish to ccbill pays again.

Atleast kimmykim may open gate for GFY & AWI webmasters?
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Old 11-02-2001, 02:56 AM   #55
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Okay, I don't want to enter about cheaters, and ways etc. You can ask my all customers, I always get money first, then give their program / work etc. So they are trusts me, and I never cheated to them. I'm in Adult business since 1998, I see many cheaters from My country, because thoose guys trying to make easy money, like *almost all todays* new adult newbies huh?

Blacklisting a country is very simple and pratically you never lose something (except webmasters). But at least giving a chance to old or trustable webmasters will be fine. Like nexcash is not accepting new webmasters from Turkey too, but they accept if anyone in Nexcash program old then 3 months refer him/her. Thats very nice way to eliminate cheaters. Webmasters old in Adult scene is not crazy to cheat on anywhere! Because we know, if sponsor does not makes money = they won't pay you. Thats very simple.

Kimmykim, you may try a few Turk guys in GFY & AWI board, if you don't like us again, you can blacklist us forever. If you want to try.

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Old 11-02-2001, 03:08 AM   #56
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Shit! Due to Transparent proxy of my ISP, I haven't see my latest replies. Sorry everyone, now I can see.

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Old 11-02-2001, 03:21 AM   #57
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I'm sure you guys will work this out.. I know both of you and your both cool people.. I wish i was in your shoes I have so much more buillshit to deal with..

XP is a turkish guy i would use for sure..

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Old 11-02-2001, 05:12 AM   #58
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so you do not believe that your checks may be to the customs because I cannot send checks to Turkey?

I'll ask a copy of this rules at the post office and scan it.

You'll see that I'm saying the truth, tonight.


By the way, just ask some wire transfers or ask your sponsors to send you other checks...they have never been cashed if you're saying the truth...


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Old 11-02-2001, 05:25 AM   #59
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Okay rod, I accept you can not send my mails to me (I don't count nexcash and gammacash for this time)

how I get first mail from you (it was very very small 50$ check)

and why you don't told me "I can not send mails from canada to you, please find another mailbox"

You always said "I have send your checks today".


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Old 11-02-2001, 05:30 AM   #60
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XP: I did send them...I'm just saying that the customs could have pick them because of this rule.

But yes, I really sent them to you.

[This message has been edited by Rod (edited 11-02-2001).]
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Old 11-02-2001, 06:31 AM   #61
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rod, sounds like you're a thief.
Either you stole this guys checks or you stole the money he paid you to send his checks.
I don't believe that you can't send checks to turkey but if that's another one of those goofy canadien laws, it certainly sounds like you knew all about it ahead of time.
So which is it?
did you steal from the back end or the front end?

Oh, on a seperate note, guys who lie about their address deserve whatever it is they get.
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Old 11-02-2001, 06:35 AM   #62
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Finally someone who recognizes the wholy lying about their address thing.
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Old 11-02-2001, 06:41 AM   #63
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Both XP and Rod are nice guys, hope you sort this thing out.
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Old 11-02-2001, 07:06 AM   #64
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12clicks: if I'm a lier / cheater, sponsor won't send checks to me. But they do!

I can't change my country, but I can change my address, thats not hard. Thats what I do. Ask to my customers, if you want to know what kind a person XP

ask to xApster and Kmanrox from this board if you want sure.

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Old 11-02-2001, 07:08 AM   #65
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12clicks: if I'm a lier / cheater, sponsor won't send checks to me. But they do!


Now thats a funny statement. LOL
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Old 11-02-2001, 07:13 AM   #66
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12clicks: if I'm a lier / cheater, sponsor won't send checks to me. But they do!
wait a minute.. wasnt that.. but you said... uh. the problem was.... im not touching it.
**I WET THE BED**

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Old 11-02-2001, 07:59 AM   #67
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12clicks: if I'm a lier / cheater,

I prefer to say it like this:
if I'm a liar, I'm most likely a cheater too.

or perhaps:
If I lie about my address, why wouldn't I cheat?
or:
If I lie about one thing, how can I be trusted with another.
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Old 11-02-2001, 11:02 AM   #68
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rod, sounds like you're a thief.
Either you stole this guys checks or you stole the money he paid you to send his checks.
I don't believe that you can't send checks to turkey but if that's another one of those goofy canadien laws, it certainly sounds like you knew all about it ahead of time.
So which is it?
did you steal from the back end or the front end?

Oh, on a seperate note, guys who lie about their address deserve whatever it is they get.

What are you talking about?

I did send his checks...the first went to him without any problem (in a milbox on a corner of the street). Then, he told me to try to fedex them to him, and the post office told me it was impossible to send anything to Turkey with fedex (well, it's actually Express post here). So, I told the guy at the post office to send the check by normal mail, then he told me I cannot send him the check to Turkey, since in canada, we cannot send any check or money by post.

Then, I told XP that I cannot send anything to him by fedex, so I tried again the normal mail.


Now, because of that, I think that his check are at the customs....maybe they are scanning the letters more then before, after the USA plane crash....I just dunno.

Where did I lie here?....if you don't believe what I'm saying, maybe you'll believe it after I scan the paper where this rule is written on?

XP, if you do not get your money, why don't you aks your sponsor to resend your checks or make a wire transfer to you then?
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Old 11-02-2001, 11:08 AM   #69
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I just want to know who has the check now?
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Old 11-02-2001, 11:45 AM   #70
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I just want to know who has the check now?
i do !
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Old 11-02-2001, 11:54 AM   #71
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tenletters: It's not me, sicne i posted them, and XP says he never received them.

So, I think the customs have it.

Don't forget that since the anthrax thing, the normal mail is REALLY slow and they scan the letters way more.

That's my opinion
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Old 11-02-2001, 12:22 PM   #72
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rod,
I have just looked up in fedex.com. You can absolutely send mail or anything thru fedex to turkey. Just plug the zip codes you will see that it even gives a rate (68 bucks). And also, you are saying that they scan checks in turkey. This does not make a fucking sense at all. But let's say it is true, just put the ckecks in a magazine and fedex it to the guy.
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Old 11-02-2001, 12:28 PM   #73
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Hey, I never sent a check to rod, before plane crush!
its 11 september, and I haven't received 4 checks from him (he said, he sent on 28 july)
its 45 days.

rod stop talking about different things, there is no anthrax when date is 28 june!

and in Turkey customs, they never scans mails (while there is Anthrax Panic !!!)

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Old 11-02-2001, 01:10 PM   #74
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Anyone who wants to send me their checks can. hehehehe
same here
anyway, i know many many webmasters from countries called banned that after an email they got accepted from big sponsors. I have met some webmasters from Turkey that are very reliable and if i'll run a sponsor program i'll accept them.
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Old 11-02-2001, 01:45 PM   #75
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ok guys

I'll video tape myself asking the guy at the post office if I can send cghecks to Turkey...you'll see what will be his answers.

I won't post anything else for now...and you'll have to wait till monday since the post office is close during the weekend here.
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Old 11-02-2001, 01:51 PM   #76
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Rockdaddy: There is frauders from whole world. At least you can chargeback your credit.
Actually that's the day I found out my wife never balanced the checkbook. That bastard had free use of her debit card for almost a year. The bank only covered 3 months. I still lost around $2k on that deal.

I was more pissed at my wife than the guy who was using the debit card.

BUT... I was just pointing out that there ARE ways to cheat a sponsor. ie: the bogus sign ups to Hustler on that card.

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Old 11-02-2001, 04:02 PM   #77
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Soulrebel: That would nice, for Turkey & Greece friendship too

Rockdaddy: Your problem is offtopic, but I wish to not hear that. But CC proccessors enhanced their systems, so I'm not waiting cc frauds from my country anymore. Also CV2 number usage is great protection. So future is clear

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Old 11-02-2001, 04:37 PM   #78
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Now you know why I checked the envelop under a light...to be sure XP and his friend wasn't doiing anything illegal...


how can you tell someone is doing anything illegal by checking an envelope under the light? can anyone answer this?

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Old 11-02-2001, 05:35 PM   #79
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I'm not even going to say it, but he has to be wrong sometime.
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Old 11-02-2001, 09:06 PM   #80
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Rockdaddy: Your problem is offtopic,
ON TOPIC:

When a sponsor says you can not join their program if you live in a specific country and you commit FRAUD by giving a FRAUDULENT address.

YOU HAVE COMMITTED FRAUD...

Which plain and simply means that you can not be trusted. Your integrity has been tarnished. You have no one to blame but yourself. If you would have been doing business ABOVE BOARD AND HONESTLY then there would not even be a need for this thread.


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Old 11-03-2001, 02:27 AM   #81
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Rockdaddy are you nuts?
If you don't chargeback your money, you are simply DUMBASS!

and you can't say you're not trustable. Thats like Black Racism! Ask to my customers, if you like to know me.

if they don't trust me, why they pay before get service / program / stuff etc.?

I'm sorry about your credit card, but you know thats not my fault.

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