Everyone is bitching about GUBA but why did GFY allow the skin? - GoFuckYourself.com

Michael O · 02-20-2006, 04:39 PM

Everyone is bitching about GUBA and in my opinion rightfully.

But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me.
GUBA supports theft of content from sites owned by many of their other advertisers.

u-Bob · 02-20-2006, 04:40 PM

money? more drama on the board?...

JamesK2 · 02-20-2006, 04:41 PM

I agree 100%, it is unacceptable that GFY promotes something that is really destroying the industry.

circlekhabib · 02-20-2006, 04:42 PM

"But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me"
since you didn't join just yesterday I have no
clue why this is beyond you.

Libertine · 02-20-2006, 04:42 PM

Money, and the fact that Playboy has already had its content removed from Guba/

Michael O · 02-20-2006, 04:42 PM

Posted in another thread
Original post by Pam Winter on another board and a great post.

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This will be a controversial post for sure! Why do we, as adult webmasters, support theft? We do, you know. I'm going to talk about 2 situations but I am NOT picking on any individual.

First, we have a webmaster here who talks about **** and encourages webmasters to sign up under him/her. Now, **** is a major pet peeve of mine, and let me tell you why and explain what it is.

**** sells access to materials from the Usenet newsgroups. Back in the beginning, Usenet was the only way most surfers obtained photos and videos. Most ISPs would carry the newsgroups at no cost, though some tried to filter out the adult groups (that's another story for another thread). Basically surfers would join paysites, then post the photos they found. Other surfers would then download them. MANY paysites were started this way, with stolen content. I knew a 15-year old who would download pictures and put them on his paysite, an AVS site, and made a few hundred bucks a month this way.

This was before TGPs and many webmasters, like myself, fought to have photos removed from newsgroups, but it wasn't easy and still isn't. Oh yes, Usenet newsgroups are free. Some are moderated, where they purposely keep out the spam, trash and copyrighted photos. Others are free-for-alls, where you have to go through 4300000 spams before you get to a free photo. Viruses are rampant, too. An employee of mine downloaded a stripper screensaver he read about in the newsgroups and had to reformat.

So, **** makes money charging surfers to view what they could otherwise get for free if they simply used the right program (there are sites where you can access all the newsgroups at no cost).

They have an affiliate program, and any webmaster who promotes **** is scum in my eyes. Why? They are promoting and making money off copyrighted material they don't own.

If you think this isn't a big deal, let's say you spend $24,000 a year in content. Now, it's a given that some surfers will buy a membership and then take your pics and post them in the Usenet newsgroups. There are only 2 ways to minimize this -- watermark your photos, or disable right click, and anyone can disable that disabling!

Now, imagine you drop $24k and you find out someone is making money to charge people to look at your photos. How would YOU feel?

We also have people who have websites where they allow surfers to upload photos. While they have a TOS that says the user is responsible, that's bullshit, because legally, the site hosting the photos is responsible. It's up to the owner of the site to check every photo to be sure it's legal. If you have any doubt of this, check the recent ARREST of Chris Wilson in Florida, who was nailed for having more than 300 "pornographic" photos on his website, all reader contributed. BTW, his website is hosted overseas, yet he was still arrested.

Why do we allow people who knowingly host copyrighted photos, or knowingly make money from this, to be part of our community?

Dagwolf · 02-20-2006, 04:46 PM

I'd also like to know why. This reminds me of the ConsumptionJunction cat-burning drama... and how CJ the controversy rage for several days before suddenly feeling some moral doubt, removing the offending content and apologizing.

I have a feeling we're being played.

The Duck · 02-20-2006, 04:46 PM

its a fucking outrage, GFY is spitting on legit program owners and anyone else that deal with content

karlm · 02-20-2006, 04:49 PM

I agree with all of the above. But ah well aint much we can do. I wander if many people will carry on with there ads when the term is up

RayBonga · 02-20-2006, 04:51 PM

Newsgroups aren't that bad:

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At this point, it is highly likely that Kirk Johnson is the "Goatse Man." Kirk Johnson is a regular poster to the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.male.anal, among others, and a rather simple analysis confirms this; it is unlikely that there is another practitioner of anal stretching with the same mole on the upper-left edge of his anus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse

We probably would never had goatse if it wasn't for newsgroups, just my

seeric · 02-20-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kandah

its a fucking outrage, GFY is spitting on legit program owners and anyone else that deal with content

exclusive content is fucking expensive to produce. i spend a ton of my personal time looking for and getting our content removed from places. if i find my content in there it will get addressed. i encourage and would expect other exclusive content producers to do the same.

Manowar · 02-20-2006, 04:52 PM

money speaks volumes here :/

Forkbeard · 02-20-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Everyone is bitching about GUBA and in my opinion rightfully.

But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me.

GUBA supports theft of content from sites owned by many of their other advertisers.

Not everyone is bitching; just the folks who agree with your last sentence. It's *not* objective fact, you know; it's an opinion, and a rather controversial one.

TheSenator · 02-20-2006, 04:56 PM

I am outraged by the outrage. - Senator James Inhofe

minusonebit · 02-20-2006, 04:57 PM

The skin really is miserable on dialup.

02-20-2006, 04:57 PM

yep money seems to be more important then ethics ( hope there are not much typo's in my silly remark )

SilentKnight · 02-20-2006, 04:58 PM

GlydeGirl · 02-20-2006, 05:01 PM

It's all about the cash... it's ALWAYS about the cash!

Blizzard · 02-20-2006, 05:08 PM

That POS BradShaw said it best on JBM,

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Originally Posted by BradShaw

Lens is all about $, I do not blame him at this point. Make what you can, while you still can. This train will not run forever.

02-20-2006, 05:12 PM

one word just to make it simple for the NOT so clever people around here:

M O N E Y !

Dagwolf · 02-20-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord

one word just to make it simple for the NOT so clever people around here:

M O N E Y !

I believe that GFY will lose more money than it gains from this.

Scott McD · 02-20-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

It's all about the cash... it's ALWAYS about the cash!

Bling Bling !!

Michael O · 02-20-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

I believe that GFY will lose more money than it gains from this.

I hope so.

DamageX · 02-20-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I'm really starting to like you.

Babagirls · 02-20-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

The skin really is miserable on dialup.

ur on dialup?

Mr Pheer · 02-20-2006, 06:15 PM

Lensman likes the money and he knows you crybabies arent going to leave GFY, so why wouldnt he let them spend the money and skin the board?

Did you really have to even ask?

Ross · 02-20-2006, 06:18 PM

Fuck Guba.

It was a nice skin tho LOL

Dagwolf · 02-20-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPheer

Lensman likes the money and he knows you crybabies arent going to leave GFY, so why wouldnt he let them spend the money and skin the board?

Did you really have to even ask?

Suppose I owned this board and knew exactly what would happen: That this campaign would generate ten times more negative response than positive. I think if I knew this and informed the client of the possibility, I could allow the campaign with a clear conscience.

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PixeLs · 02-20-2006, 06:31 PM

Ok, looks like it's gone now..

BusterBunny · 02-20-2006, 06:35 PM

why cant we all just gubalong?

BV · 02-20-2006, 06:36 PM

Tempest · 02-20-2006, 06:40 PM

Oh please.. It's all about the money and nothing else.. Some paysites used to include newsgroup access from inside as well. If those same paysites decided that the cost/benifit ratio was high enough in their favour, they'd still do it.

Nicky · 02-20-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

why cant we all just gubalong?

HairToStay · 02-20-2006, 07:11 PM

To go one further, how many of you accept trades on your blogs and TGPs and whatever with sites that offer GUBA access?

I sure as hell don't, and have had to pull some awesome trades when I saw what they were offering. One asked me why, I explained, and they did some research on their own and dropped GUBA.

Sure, money is great, money is awesome, but self-respect is something, too. You promote GUBA and you're fucking every legitimate webmaster out there.

Keyzer, thanks for reposting that.

Rui · 02-20-2006, 07:27 PM

what a shame...this speaks volumes about lots of people around here (the way they react to this that is)

BV · 02-20-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

what a shame...this speaks volumes about lots of people around here (the way they react to this that is)

yep
there are a few unwritten rules of this forum

1- don't ever post a video here of you abusing any cats
2- don't get caught steeling content
3- don't make fun and post pics of mentally handicapped people
4- don't call women hahahahas

reynold · 02-20-2006, 08:11 PM

it is always the scenario.
new skin, people will be pissed off.
somebody whores the threads, people are pissed off.
but in all these cases, GFY remained silent. they don't make big deal out of it.

pornstar2pac · 02-20-2006, 08:13 PM

Lensman, are we still on for golf this weekend?

Scootermuze · 02-20-2006, 08:23 PM

Nope.. it's not a good thing.. but I wonder how many in here that are raising Hell have Limewire or the like on their systems; downloading copyrighted music and/or mainstream movies.... Probably several....

graphicsbytia · 02-21-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

Lensman, are we still on for golf this weekend?

lol.. nice try

I just looked for Lensman's last few posts, and there were none in the guba threads.

Post counts are higher than ever.. so ask yourself

1. Did Lensman know we'd hate this
2. Did Guba know we'd hate this
3. If we actually do hate this, why are we still here

I'd like to say more, but I do like coming here now and then.. :-)

toddler · 02-22-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graphicsbytia

lol.. nice try

I just looked for Lensman's last few posts, and there were none in the guba threads.

Post counts are higher than ever.. so ask yourself

1. Did Lensman know we'd hate this
2. Did Guba know we'd hate this
3. If we actually do hate this, why are we still here

I'd like to say more, but I do like coming here now and then.. :-)

you forgot 'do they care?'

Impressions are impressions, traffic is traffic.

graphicsbytia · 02-22-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by toddler

you forgot 'do they care?'

Impressions are impressions, traffic is traffic.

like I said... I do like coming by here now and then

reed_4 · 02-22-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by graphicsbytia

like I said... I do like coming by here now and then

this is the best place to hang out and fuck with everybody else.

Fizzgig · 02-22-2006, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Nope.. it's not a good thing.. but I wonder how many in here that are raising Hell have Limewire or the like on their systems; downloading copyrighted music and/or mainstream movies.... Probably several....

I'm not advocating P2P copyright infringement, but duplicating and reselling copyrighted material is a whole different ball game, don't you think?

Soul2Sol · 02-22-2006, 03:59 AM

yes GUBA will be in hell with all of us and our DVD burners and mp3 players with ripped off music.

who · 02-22-2006, 04:23 AM

chadglni · 02-22-2006, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fizzgig

I'm not advocating P2P copyright infringement, but duplicating and reselling copyrighted material is a whole different ball game, don't you think?

Is that how you look at it? You'd think making it available for free would dilute it worse than charging for it.

ServerGenius · 02-22-2006, 04:55 AM

what about Google Image Index? Ever thought about that for a second?
by no means do I support GUBA or any copyright infringement practises.

SmokeyTheBear · 02-22-2006, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DynaSpain

what about Google Image Index? Ever thought about that for a second?
by no means do I support GUBA or any copyright infringement practises.

nope nobody ever thought about google images ever .. not even for a second

google just lost a case to perfect10 over its images index, they just arent advertising on gfy..

BTW KEYSER looks like guba will be paying by epassporte ..

ServerGenius · 02-22-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

nope nobody ever thought about google images ever .. not even for a second

google just lost a case to perfect10 over its images index, they just arent advertising on gfy..

BTW KEYSER looks like guba will be paying by epassporte ..

No they lost in this court......it will get thrown out in the next. They only have
to explain how any idiot can prevent sites/elements getting indexed by Robots.

02-20-2006, 04:39 PM	#1
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	Everyone is bitching about GUBA but why did GFY allow the skin? Everyone is bitching about GUBA and in my opinion rightfully. But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me. GUBA supports theft of content from sites owned by many of their other advertisers. __________________ Truth Teller

02-20-2006, 04:41 PM	#3
JamesK2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,589	I agree 100%, it is unacceptable that GFY promotes something that is really destroying the industry. __________________

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Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	I'd also like to know why. This reminds me of the ConsumptionJunction cat-burning drama... and how CJ the controversy rage for several days before suddenly feeling some moral doubt, removing the offending content and apologizing. I have a feeling we're being played. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	yep money seems to be more important then ethics ( hope there are not much typo's in my silly remark )

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ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	one word just to make it simple for the NOT so clever people around here: M O N E Y !

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Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,213	Lensman likes the money and he knows you crybabies arent going to leave GFY, so why wouldnt he let them spend the money and skin the board? Did you really have to even ask? __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Oh please.. It's all about the money and nothing else.. Some paysites used to include newsgroup access from inside as well. If those same paysites decided that the cost/benifit ratio was high enough in their favour, they'd still do it.

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HairToStay Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southcoast, Mass. Posts: 1,521	To go one further, how many of you accept trades on your blogs and TGPs and whatever with sites that offer GUBA access? I sure as hell don't, and have had to pull some awesome trades when I saw what they were offering. One asked me why, I explained, and they did some research on their own and dropped GUBA. Sure, money is great, money is awesome, but self-respect is something, too. You promote GUBA and you're fucking every legitimate webmaster out there. Keyzer, thanks for reposting that. __________________ Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!

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Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	what a shame...this speaks volumes about lots of people around here (the way they react to this that is)

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reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	it is always the scenario. new skin, people will be pissed off. somebody whores the threads, people are pissed off. but in all these cases, GFY remained silent. they don't make big deal out of it.

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Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Nope.. it's not a good thing.. but I wonder how many in here that are raising Hell have Limewire or the like on their systems; downloading copyrighted music and/or mainstream movies.... Probably several....

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Soul2Sol Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 160	yes GUBA will be in hell with all of us and our DVD burners and mp3 players with ripped off music.

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