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![]() Why is it that if Google announces new services that are similar to prior companies' services many market observers wet themselves? Example: Xdrive.com provides online storage solutions for users' files. Google's version: http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/07/goo...acescan08.html
Xdrive.com suffered some severe financial tightening around 2001 due to the weakness of its business model to produce profit. Although I can understand that Google's HUGE user base can jumpstart the profitability of otherwise dubious business models, is there a double standard at play here? Is there a rational basis for the Google euphoria (at least when it comes to new products/services not additions to their solid search and ad targetting technologies)? |
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Google is financially sound, it has its adwords / adsense as its primary business model. Even if its new spinoff businesses don't yield a dime, its still plausible to continue their operations to increase distribution of its PPC business.
In my opinion, most of these new projects are not intended for profit. It would be nice obviously, but its still fundamentally based on adwords/adsense. WG
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two big gorillas are about to enter the scene - driving down margins on keyword bids. i see people on message boards claiming that Yahoo is paying out more than adsense right now. yahoo is probably taking a loss on each click to poach current adsense publishers. they do this in some of their other lines of business as well.
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I feel Google has a solid structure, but it is highly overinflated.
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You can compare it with ebay, ebay is also just a script that generates money. Ebay also started with new things like opening shipping centers in different parts of the us. Both of them have lots of money not only because of ad words or auction fees but from their stocks.
I do think google is a bigger bubble then ebay, ebay is more solid as a marketplace, actual goods pass trough ebay but google is all about clicking on ads, when a new and better system comes up or a better search engine google will be finished in a short amount of time. Let's say some kid invents a new browser, way better and faster than explorer or firefox, the browser is free but uses a sort of adwords in a build in task bar, you are on a page with baby clothing and the taskbar is showing you ads for babyclothing. Advertisers will place their ads trough this new browser instead of using google and google will lose it's entire adwords income. Sounds like a good idea to get rich, now I only need to find a kid to make this new fenomenal browser :-)
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So you do not think that Google is "the new tech saviour" of the world?
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a few people i have talked to have said that Yahoo was paying out more than adsense (don't know if this is still the case). the goal (as always) is - traffic. advertisers need traffic, and right now google is dominating the network publisher market. so yahoo is trying to attract current adsense publishers (probably) by losing money on clicks. they do this in other businesses. for instance - google pays adsense publishers something like 78% of each click. what if yahoo started paying out 105% for each click and lose money on each click. adsense users would migrate to YPN. then YPN can slowlythrottle the payout down and get paid back. check out their music service. i've heard that they take a hit on each subscription to musicnet. they offer the service for like 2 bucks less than other publishers selling music-on-demand. who knows. i have no definitve proof to back this up, so take it for what it's worth.
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It's mostly hype, they don't really have much going for them besides a pretty decent search engine... a competitor releasing better search engine would kill them pretty fast... on the other hand they have a lot of talent, so they could be cooking up a unix based OS X like operating system for the pc, when they release it, they could take up significant market share away from windows... Or they could do 50 other breakthrough things, but unfortunatly everything released from google since they went public has been pretty lame...
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