California residents. Don't forget: New laws today.

[baddog]

A law signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger last year will be strictly enforced to all drivers in California, starting July 1st, here are the details with the violation fines.

* Carpool lane ? 1st time $1068.50 starting 7/1/08 (The $271 posted on the highway is out-dated)
Don?t do it again because 2nd time is going to be double. 3rd time, triple, and 4th time license suspended.
* Incorrect lane change ? $380. Don?t cross the lane on solid lines or at intersections.
* Block intersection ? $485
* Driving on the shoulder ? $450
* Cell phone use in the construction zone. ? Double fine (2 times $285) as of 07/01/08.
* All Cell phones must be ?hands free? while driving Fine is $285.
* Passengers over 18 not in their seatbelts ?- both passengers and
drivers get tickets
* Speeders ? allowance only drive 3 miles above the limit.
* DUI (Driving Under Influence of drug or alcohol) = JAIL (Stays on your driving record for 10 years!)
* teens to put down all cell phones and other electronic devices while driving. The new law prohibits drivers under age 18 from using any cell phone or other ?mobile-service device? while driving, even if it is equipped with a hands-free device.
The term ?mobile-service device? includes, but isn?t limited to, a broadband personal-communication device, specialized mobile radio device, handheld device or laptop computer with mobile-data access, pager, and two-way messaging device. Teen drivers ticketed for a violation will be subject to a fine of at least $70 (base fine plus penalties) for a first offense and at least $175 (base fine plus penalties) for subsequent offenses. Unlike the ban on handheld cell phones, a law enforcement officer may cite a teen for a suspected violation of this law only in connection with another suspected driving offense.

[Persius]

Jesus the 1000$ carpool is insaneeeeee

[Persius]

but i'm glad the handsfree is now a rule because i hate those drivers on the phone!

[d-null]

how do you do hands free texting??

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Persius

but i'm glad the handsfree is now a rule because i hate those drivers on the phone!

what he said

[KRosh]

Originally Posted by baddog

A law signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger last year will be strictly enforced to all drivers in California, starting July 1st, here are the details with the violation fines.

* Carpool lane ? 1st time $1068.50 starting 7/1/08 (The $271 posted on the highway is out-dated)
Don?t do it again because 2nd time is going to be double. 3rd time, triple, and 4th time license suspended.
* Incorrect lane change ? $380. Don?t cross the lane on solid lines or at intersections.
* Block intersection ? $485
* Driving on the shoulder ? $450
* Cell phone use in the construction zone. ? Double fine (2 times $285) as of 07/01/08.
* All Cell phones must be ?hands free? while driving Fine is $285.
* Passengers over 18 not in their seatbelts ?- both passengers and
drivers get tickets
* Speeders ? allowance only drive 3 miles above the limit.
* DUI (Driving Under Influence of drug or alcohol) = JAIL (Stays on your driving record for 10 years!)
* teens to put down all cell phones and other electronic devices while driving. The new law prohibits drivers under age 18 from using any cell phone or other ?mobile-service device? while driving, even if it is equipped with a hands-free device.
The term ?mobile-service device? includes, but isn?t limited to, a broadband personal-communication device, specialized mobile radio device, handheld device or laptop computer with mobile-data access, pager, and two-way messaging device. Teen drivers ticketed for a violation will be subject to a fine of at least $70 (base fine plus penalties) for a first offense and at least $175 (base fine plus penalties) for subsequent offenses. Unlike the ban on handheld cell phones, a law enforcement officer may cite a teen for a suspected violation of this law only in connection with another suspected driving offense.

The cellphone use law does not carry that big of a fine....

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/cellularphonelaws/index.htm

Q: What are the fines(s) if I?m convicted?
A: The base fine for the FIRST offense is $20 and $50 for subsequent convictions. With the addition of penalty assessments, the fines can be more than triple the base fine amount.

[TampaToker]

Wish they would do the cellphone thing here. Every day it seems some idiot yapping on that damn cellphone cuts me off....

[junction]

California insanity. One of the many reasons I left the state.

[munki]

shameless spam for my friends company...

http://westsidecellular.com

if ya need a handsfree still...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Persius

but i'm glad the handsfree is now a rule because i hate those drivers on the phone!

I am mixed on the hands free deal, primarily because I have two cell phones (different carriers), so now I need to get my car blue toothed, and I need to upgrade my backup phone. However, careless drivers make me glad it is there.

My concern is the new three mile an hour over the limit issue. I do not know how to drive the speed limit. Only way I can maintain that speed is with cruise control.

A couple weeks ago I got pulled over on I-5. The cop told me I was slowest person he had pulled over all day . . . only doing 90. He let me go. I wonder what would happen if it happened today.

[pornguy]

Thats the sort of thing that happens when you have a state that is bankrupt.

[munki]

Yeah that 3 mile over is gonna kill... I've always used speed limits as more of a figurative suggestion...

[Easton]

so much for the west coast laid-back attitude... dayum

[BergyK]

Yea that gives the cops another extra law to fuck us California drivers.

[Socks]

Always feels great working your whole life to pay for politicians extravagances.

[Moe]

Thanks for the heads up Baddog!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by jetjet

how do you do hands free texting??

I believe it is just that texting was not specified in the law, however, if the cops thinks you were distracted you can still be cited.

Originally Posted by KRosh

The cellphone use law does not carry that big of a fine....

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/cellularphonelaws/index.htm

Q: What are the fines(s) if I?m convicted?
A: The base fine for the FIRST offense is $20 and $50 for subsequent convictions. With the addition of penalty assessments, the fines can be more than triple the base fine amount.

I thought that seemed higher than I thought. Thanks for the link: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...ia-tickets.htm

After reading that I seemed to recall seeing this same thing last year. The only one I new for sure was the hands free law. The others were a surprise to me.

Originally Posted by munki

shameless spam for my friends company...

http://westsidecellular.com

if ya need a handsfree still...

Yeah, but your friend is operating in the sticks. Does he make house calls? I will have to find one that is closer than 40 miles away. I am sure biz has been popping for him.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Socks

Always feels great working your whole life to pay for politicians extravagances.

Yeah, I heard that laws are made on a revshare basis. The senator or rep that introduces a new law that generates income gets 10% of the profits generated by their law.

[RyuLion]

I'm glad for this law..have been seeing signs about it all over the freeway..
I have a perfect driving record -btw

[D Ghost]

thats hardcore shit - well I can't drive till December, but I'll have to keep these in mind :/

[Juicy D. Links]

i drive while talking on the phone , smoking a cig and doing a few lines of blow at the same time.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i drive while talking on the phone , smoking a cig and doing a few lines of blow at the same time.

i sometimes have a latte in my hand also

[johnuno11]

Lol, Wow those laws are gnarley.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i sometimes have a latte in my hand also

if i dont have a latte then i am most likely fonddling my cock

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by johnuno11

Lol, Wow those laws are gnarley.

you ever trying doing rails while driving and texting at same time?/

[DefaultMan]

Originally Posted by baddog

A couple weeks ago I got pulled over on I-5. The cop told me I was slowest person he had pulled over all day . . . only doing 90. He let me go. I wonder what would happen if it happened today.

You got pulled over on the 5? When I first moved out here my friend told me cops never pull anyone over for speeding. So far thats been true for me but I did get a ticket for flicking a cig in front of a cop. Hey. I'm from MD...it rains there!

[seeric]

it IS NOT illegal to text and drive. they had a chp officer that was on a popular radio show here in l.a. on monday and he was blown away that they cannot enforce someone texting. he flat out said they are instructed to pull people over for the phone to their ear. the show host asked him about texting and he said flat out it is NOT illegal to text and you can have your phone in your hand pressing all the buttons you want as long as it is not to your ear. to me that kinda defeats hands free, but the officer said its true. this law does not protect anyone. the most dangerous thing is texting yet you wont get a citation for it. sucks actually. some dumb bitch nearly smacked me yesterday on the 118 while trying to text and drive. stupid broad.

[96ukssob]

damn, the carpool fine is crazy. i used to do it sometimes when I was coming back from Simi Valley on the 405... i had my windows tinted pretty dark so it was hard to see in to see if there was another passenger.

i think a lot of states are adopting new fines. there was something on the news in PA the other day that they are doing a 30 day "fine-a-thon" on the highways here and anything over 3 MPH the speed limit is a guaranteed ticket for over $200.

my friend is a state cop in PA and he said that they have to give you a 10MPH buffer when doing the timing lines (two white lines on the road) but they get people to admit their speed. if your going less than 10mph over and get stopped in a timing zone, say you were doing the speed limit or 1 mph under

[severe]

Originally Posted by jetjet

how do you do hands free texting??

dont raise the phone above window height were you can be seen...

[nico-t]

wow and i thought the fines here were insane... btw what does 'driving on the shoulder' mean?

[Tom_PM]

Pretty common sense stuff, dont you think?

Driving = point A to point B safely.

Driving != hollering into a device while eating a meal, watching tv and changing lanes recklessly, hehe. Although I cant prove that!

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by nico-t

wow and i thought the fines here were insane... btw what does 'driving on the shoulder' mean?

The "shoulder" is the edge of the roadbed on which the road is paved. Usually gravel or dirt or grass. The place where people pull over if they have to change a tire etc.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

it IS NOT illegal to text and drive. they had a chp officer that was on a popular radio show here in l.a. on monday and he was blown away that they cannot enforce someone texting. he flat out said they are instructed to pull people over for the phone to their ear. the show host asked him about texting and he said flat out it is NOT illegal to text and you can have your phone in your hand pressing all the buttons you want as long as it is not to your ear. to me that kinda defeats hands free, but the officer said its true. this law does not protect anyone. the most dangerous thing is texting yet you wont get a citation for it. sucks actually. some dumb bitch nearly smacked me yesterday on the 118 while trying to text and drive. stupid broad.

I agree this is pretty stupid, you're most likely to hit while texting...


New laws, more contraventions and Mo Money!!!!!

They're about to bring back the tolls on the bridge in Montreal... Also increased parking meters almost double.

Money, Money, Money.... What else is new

[starpimps]

3 miles over the limit?
wtf

[ProducerCashDave]

I'm glad this law passed to many retards talking on phones while driving, they almost always fuck up while driving because theyre not paying attention

[Deej]

we here in oregon got the hands free phone law too...

if not the others... those im not sure on...

[BradM]

3 over? Shit.

[TubeTitans_SusieQ]

nice laws, better get to know them just in case ;)

[pocketkangaroo]

That's some fucking big time fines.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by deejne

thats hardcore shit - well I can't drive till December, but I'll have to keep these in mind :/

You are 15?

[czarina]

jeez! Those are ridiculous!
I'm soooooooo glad I left the West Coast!

[Vegas Ken]

I will have to remember those while in CA

[baddog]

Originally Posted by DefaultMan

You got pulled over on the 5? When I first moved out here my friend told me cops never pull anyone over for speeding.

He is quite wrong. I have spent a couple grand for speeding tickets on the 5. "Technically" had my license suspended, although I worked the system pretty well on that one.

I got a radar detector that I now use on all road trips. It has saved me a ton.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

I think they should outlaw texting... not while driving, just completely. Drives me fucking nuts and is a waste of time.

[DefaultMan]

Thanks for all the great advice baddog. I should have hit you up as soon as I moved to LA.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

it IS NOT illegal to text and drive.

Q: Does the new ?hands-free? law allow drivers 18 and over to text message while driving?

A: The law does not specifically prohibit that, but an officer can pull over and issue a citation to a driver of any age if, in the officer?s opinion, the driver was distracted and not operating the vehicle safely. Sending text messages while driving is unsafe at any speed and is strongly discouraged.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/cellularphonelaws/index.htm

[KRosh]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

it IS NOT illegal to text and drive. they had a chp officer that was on a popular radio show here in l.a. on monday and he was blown away that they cannot enforce someone texting. he flat out said they are instructed to pull people over for the phone to their ear. the show host asked him about texting and he said flat out it is NOT illegal to text and you can have your phone in your hand pressing all the buttons you want as long as it is not to your ear. to me that kinda defeats hands free, but the officer said its true. this law does not protect anyone. the most dangerous thing is texting yet you wont get a citation for it. sucks actually. some dumb bitch nearly smacked me yesterday on the 118 while trying to text and drive. stupid broad.

The problem is, as an officer, how do you differentiate between someone scrolling through the contacts, dialing a number or texting? This is why they can not ticket you for texting because they can not prove that is what you were doing when they pulled you over.

[woj]

wow, they don't fuck around...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by KRosh

The problem is, as an officer, how do you differentiate between someone scrolling through the contacts, dialing a number or texting? This is why they can not ticket you for texting because they can not prove that is what you were doing when they pulled you over.

an officer can pull over and issue a citation to a driver of any age if, in the officer?s opinion, the driver was distracted and not operating the vehicle safel


They don't have to prove you were texting.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by baddog

Q: Does the new ?hands-free? law allow drivers 18 and over to text message while driving?

A: The law does not specifically prohibit that, but an officer can pull over and issue a citation to a driver of any age if, in the officer?s opinion, the driver was distracted and not operating the vehicle safely. Sending text messages while driving is unsafe at any speed and is strongly discouraged.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/cellularphonelaws/index.htm

if you become a hazard to the road you can be pulled over for any number of distractions. but legally having the phone in your hand and texting is not illegal. personally i think its 10 times more dangerous to text than talk.