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11-18-2008, 06:48 PM
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To all you idiots who thought the Democrats would be easy on our business...
Meet who Obama Wants for attny General:
According to Reuters, President-Elect Barack Obama has conditionally offered the post of Attorney General of the United States to Eric Holder, a 57-year-old former Deputy U.S. Attorney who served during the Clinton-era reign of Attorney General Janet Reno. While Holder will have to undergo an extensive vetting process before officially being offered the job, he has already generated concern in the adult industry over a decade-old memo he wrote on the topic of obscenity prosecutions. Addressed to all 94 United States Attorneys on June 10, 1998, the memo was titled "Prosecutions Under the Federal Obscenity Statutes". Adult industry attorneys have since referred to it as "The Holder Memo." "As you are aware," Holder wrote, "within the past few years there has been increasing concern about the distribution of obscenity and child pornography both by traditional purveyors of "adult material" and in particular by those who distribute such material over the Internet. As a result of this unprecedented growth, I wish to remind you of the Department's policies and priorities in the prosecution of federal obscenity cases... Thus, priority should be given to cases involving large-scale distributors who realize substantial income from multistate operations and cases in which there is evidence of organized crime involvement. However, prosecution of cases involving relatively small distributors can have a deterrent effect and would dispel any notion that obscenity distributors are insulated from prosecution if their operations fail to exceed a predetermined size or if they fragment their business into small-scale operations... In particular, priority also should be given to large-scale distributors of obscenity over the Internet. Because of the nature of the Internet and the availability of agents trained in conducting criminal investigations in cyberspace, investigation and prosecution of Internet obscenity is particularly suitable for federal resources." Perhaps even more troubling is a letter Holder wrote to Morality In Media founder Paul McGeady on July 2, 1998, which references a meeting apparently attended by Holder, McGeady and representatives of various religio-conservative pro-censorship groups: "I appreciated having the opportunity to meet with you recently to discuss the prosecution of obscenity cases," Holder wrote. "Your commitment to this important issue is commendable, and I fully share your concerns about the distribution of obscenity and child pornography, whether it is over the Internet or by more traditional purveyors of such material. I encourage you, and the other organizations with whom I met, to continue working closely with the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the Department of Justice as we work aggressively to address this troubling problem. Based on the many insightful comments and observations made by representatives of the various groups who attended our recent meeting, I determined that it was appropriate for me to send a memorandum to all United States Attorneys reminding them of the Department's policies." Holder's stance on obscenity drew comments from First Amendment attorney and AVN columnist Clyde DeWitt, who dealt with the "Holder Memo" in his column for AVN's September, 1998 issue ("Federal Obscenity Prosecutions in General, and the Internet in Particular".) DeWitt referenced Holder's stance that U.S. Attorneys should follow the United States Attorneys' Manual, which at that time still suggested that adult companies could be targeted using a "multiple-prosecution strategy," where a single company could be indicted in multiple jurisdictions, forcing that company to expend vast resources defending itself, which might bankrupt the company - exactly as the Justice Department intended the tactic to accomplish. You think Democrats are our friends you are sorely mistaken.
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11-18-2008, 06:53 PM
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If this surprises anyone well.......
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11-18-2008, 06:54 PM
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Wait what? Obama is the same as McCain or Bush NOOOOOOOOOO. I never would have thought that!
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no one said they were ouir friends and you know the history so you know which admins we have had the greatest pain whether you want to admit it or not.
Guess its going to change. He still has to be vetted there are alot of people that have a problem with this guy. |
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11-18-2008, 06:56 PM
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politicians don't like pr0n?! ohznoes!
Seriously though, until anything is actually done ( like what happened over the past eight years). It's all speculation. So what the fuck ever.
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11-18-2008, 06:58 PM
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11-18-2008, 07:00 PM
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Tip Tip Tip Tipper Gore... Will she get a seat on the morality council?
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oh he will be approved its a democratic house and senate. he will sail through
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This is a good thing. Tubes have all the content they need. Now we can put the content producers in jail for obscenity and porn can truly spread its wings and fly free like a glorious eagle.
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11-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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theres is one political party that is our friend, but only myself and John Stagliano support them. I voted Libertarian everywhere I could.
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Holder is going to have problems getting approved.he approved pardoning marc rich and is anti gun. |
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the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
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11-18-2008, 07:10 PM
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they think abortion should go back to the states they are free speech absolutists, at least most of us are.
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I love to watch Obama supporters back pedal. It is pretty funny actually.
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Oh no so now we wont have rape videos and child pornography?
Whatever will we do? Idiots
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also he wrote that in 1998 name 4 obscenity cases that happened during Clinton?
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Do you really think McCain would be much better in regards to our industry?
As is with any election, you have to vote with whoever you agree most with. In this case, it was Obama that got my vote. It doesn't mean that I thought "Change" and "Hope" was realistic in the manner it was portrayed. Only the uneducated did. I don't vote based on taglines and hooks. I do believe it will be a change from Bush and that we'll be seen in a much better light on the world stage. That is what I believe, and that held a lot of weight for me during this election. If I felt either party would be good for business and I based my vote solely on that, than I'd have been an idiot to vote for either candidate. |
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The only difference is, it's less likely that obscenity cases will be top priority for the FBI like they were under Bush & Co with Gonzales.
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thank you i did not feel like typing all that. no matter who is to blame, let's recognize that we're not well liked and should learn to not be so shocked. we should be self-regulating instead of bling-blinging oh wait we're not even bling-blinging anymore...
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But you're correct. He would not have gone after obscenity prosecutions and would have vetoed any bills to regulate the industry. The only thing that would have been bad though is the fact he'd appoint strict constructionist judges which are not good for the industry. |
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I'm waiting for my Democratic senator (Debbie Stabenow) to attempt her porn tax again. Why wouldn't she, sin taxes are easy to pass in tough economic times.
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Republicans will say anything now to try to vindicate and justify their embarrassing loss.
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I told you so.
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yes obscenity is and always has been a state by state thing, look at the federal trial they always have one thing in common and thats the interstate commerce. Thats because the feds have jurisdiction over interstate commerce. Max was charges with transporting obscenity for example....Ray Guhn on the other hand was an obscenity charge and it was local not federal.
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Oh christ. Shut the fuck up already. Get off your self appointed pedestal.
When is your print magazine coming out? hahahahahaha
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Oh geez!!!
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I'll take someone who goes after us, if at all, for legality rather than morality.
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