If this dosen't bother you, you're fucked up.

[jmcb420]

I'm bothered.......here's why.....

In Ohio, as with any state in the union, should a sex offender move into your area they are requiered by law to go door to door and tell everyone that they are sex offenders.

For example, we have one up the road from us, he notified me personaly when he moved in over the summer.

Well, last month his neighbors moved away and just over this past few days a new family has moved in. This family who just moved in appears to have at least 2 if not more children, and the word around the neighborhood is that the sex offender next door to them has not notified them of his offence because (IT SEEMS) in the state of Ohio, you only have to notify the neighbors when you move in, not the other way around.

Am I wrong in assuming the neighborhood word is correct and he dosen't have to notify them? Does anyone know any better? And if he dosen't have to notify them, would I be out of line by bringing his offence to their attention (it really dosen't matter because i will anyway)?

I know normal people dont know anything about this, I sure as hell dont. Any suggestions?

[brassmonkey]

damn im not saying do it but id go tell them make some flyers

[Tom_PM]

It's probably correct because to my thinking, how can you task a person living in a house with the legal responsibility to constantly monitor the comings and goings of his or her neighbors? That'd be state or federally mandated stalking practically.. creepy..

Whereas every state and fed I think has a website with sex offenders and where they live, so any homeowner who wants to can go look in their neighborhood, as often as they want.

One would THINK that most people with kids who are moving in to a new place would check the database ahead of time.

[DWB]

The question I have to ask is, what did he do?

If he molested little kids, pre-teen kids, hell yea they should know. But if he got caught banging out some 16 year old high school slut, leave the guy alone.

If he came to your door to tell you what he is, then you should know what he did. If you don't, it's your own damn fault. Find out. It could be totally harmless but he got ran through the system on some BS charge. Or.... he could be your worst nightmare.

[Sly]

I think it would be difficult to legally require someone to stay on top of who is new and who isn't in the neighborhood. It is public information though so if you want to share it, which you obviously do, there should not be any harm in that.

What was the offense? Was he jerking off in a theater or did he actually do something to children? The whole "sex offender" thing has so many different shades...

[PR|Jordan]

For all we know he could have been 18 and dating a 17 year old - some of these laws are insane.

[PR|Jordan]

actually to expand on this-

When he came to do your door, what did he say? What happened? How awkward was it?!!

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by Sly

I think it would be difficult to legally require someone to stay on top of who is new and who isn't in the neighborhood. It is public information though so if you want to share it, which you obviously do, there should not be any harm in that.

What was the offense? Was he jerking off in a theater or did he actually do something to children? The whole "sex offender" thing has so many different shades...

It was a child offence, as the facts are.

The man in question molested his 13 year old step daughter for 3 years.

I am very well aware of the sites that are online and carry these individuals, but I dont think the average person thinks that they are moving in next to a pedo.

As brassmonkey mentioned passing out flyers, I feel a better approach would be to confront the individual flat out and demand that they notify the new neighbor.

I also have visions of a mob with torches demanding the monster be put down.....

[tony286]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

The question I have to ask is, what did he do?

If he molested little kids, pre-teen kids, hell yea they should know. But if he got caught banging out some 16 year old high school slut, leave the guy alone.

If he came to your door to tell you what he is, then you should know what he did. If you don't, it's your own damn fault. Find out. It could be totally harmless but he got ran through the system on some BS charge. Or.... he could be your worst nightmare.

A very good point. Or he was 18 and got his dick sucked by his 15 yr Gf. I read one guy pissed on the side of the road had to go , he got arrested and is now registered as a sex offender.

[Tom_PM]

I think thats a bad way to do it.. if he's not required to, then you could get into hot water by trying to harrass him to.

If I was dead set on informing about it, I'd go welcome the new neighbors and at the appropriate moment, whisper to the adult(s) about the neighbor.

[brassmonkey]

wow if he touched my 16 year old daughter he would not need a house 3800 woo hoo!!

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

The question I have to ask is, what did he do?

If he molested little kids, pre-teen kids, hell yea they should know. But if he got caught banging out some 16 year old high school slut, leave the guy alone.

If he came to your door to tell you what he is, then you should know what he did. If you don't, it's your own damn fault. Find out. It could be totally harmless but he got ran through the system on some BS charge. Or.... he could be your worst nightmare.

Exactly... There are some around here that were 18 or 19, had sex with a 15 or 16 year old. The courts found them guilty and guess what? They are sex offenders for life and their charge? Indecent Liberties With A Minor.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by PR|Jordan

actually to expand on this-

When he came to do your door, what did he say? What happened? How awkward was it?!!

Thats the thing, to me it seemed like he didn't really give a fuck.

For me it was very akward to say the least, I kinda wanted to drag him into my house and kill him. He explaned the whole deal to me, in a matter of fact way that literally made me want to puke.

I really dont think that this guy even feels like he did something wrong from the way he talked about it.

My only reply to him was that if I were to see him in my area again, (I live directly across the street from a pre-school K - 4) I would notify the police that I was about to kill somebody and there would be no warning for him. I dont fuck around, and I damn sure dont have any remorse or understanding for anyone who would treat children like that.

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

Ya know.. if you are caught urinating in public, they make you register as a sex offender.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

It was a child offence, as the facts are.

The man in question molested his 13 year old step daughter for 3 years.

I am very well aware of the sites that are online and carry these individuals, but I dont think the average person thinks that they are moving in next to a pedo.

As brassmonkey mentioned passing out flyers, I feel a better approach would be to confront the individual flat out and demand that they notify the new neighbor.

I also have visions of a mob with torches demanding the monster be put down.....

In that case and if you are SURE that he did this then telling the new people should be pretty ok. Be be careful what you say. State the facts as they relate to the situation and nothing more.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by pornguy

In that case and if you are SURE that he did this then telling the new people should be pretty ok. Be be careful what you say. State the facts as they relate to the situation and nothing more.

I'm 100% sure.

He needs to notify them.

Moreover..........The state of Ohio needs to change the law as it stands or face the certianty that eventualy pedos like this shit face are going to start turning up dead because they didn't have to notify, then reoffended.

How can the state seriously pass such a stupid fucking law? In ohio ALL sex offenders have to register every 90 days with their local authoritys, If thats on the books then whats the deal with not having to notify the new neighbors? All bullshit.

[PR|Jordan]

Not to defend the guy because what he did was terrible, but if i had to explain to 1000 people that I did something bad, I think it would lose its impact after the 300th person...

[jmcb420]

And just in case someone wants to say "he did his time, leave him be" just back on out of this.

People who hurt children should never she allowed a minute of peace. That poor little girl he victomized isn't getting any, neither should he.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by PR|Jordan

Not to defend the guy because what he did was terrible, but if i had to explain to 1000 people that I did something bad, I think it would lose its impact after the 300th person...

Sadly true, man.

[MikesTraffic]

i think sexual offenders should be required to post a sign in their front yard announcing what they have done

[PR|Jordan]

Would be easier to declare zones they were and were not allowed to live in - would raise property values in some areas

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by MikesTraffic

i think sexual offenders should be required to post a sign in their front yard announcing what they have done

Thats what i'm talking about, fuck these monsters and their "rights"

Aside from castration, I cant think of a more fitting punishment other then never being set free from jail after being found guilty.

[Tom_PM]

Couple of us already said why though.. how can a state try to mandate that a person (offender) MONITOR all of the vacant and newly occupied homes in their radius?!? Thats almost like forcing them to stalk their neighborhood.. Impossible to do it legally that way.
And seriously creepy if it were that way.

If you want to try to push legislation for REAL on the topic, then maybe pursue a requirement for realtors to disclose it or something.

[candyflip]

Why not notify them yourself?

You have the info, you know that by law he doesn't "need" to notify them even though he probably should. I don't think there's any law that says you can't notify them.

Seems like a pretty simple solution. By pass the molester and just deliver the news yourself.

I now have a new question to add to my list as we look for a new house.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Couple of us already said why though.. how can a state try to mandate that a person (offender) MONITOR all of the vacant and newly occupied homes in their radius?!? Thats almost like forcing them to stalk their neighborhood.. Impossible to do it legally that way.
And seriously creepy if it were that way.

If you want to try to push legislation for REAL on the topic, then maybe pursue a requirement for realtors to disclose it or something.

You are correct in that thought, I do have to admit. It's just a shitty situation.

There dont seem to be any challenges to this law either, according to google or any other search sources. No legislation has been introduced to change the fact either, but I see plenty of challenges in ohio courts where the offenders have recently filed suite saying they feel their rights are being infringed upon because they have to register evey 90 days. Fortunantly, none of these cases seem to have made it any further.

I'll never understand people.

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by Sly

I think it would be difficult to legally require someone to stay on top of who is new and who isn't in the neighborhood. It is public information though so if you want to share it, which you obviously do, there should not be any harm in that.

What was the offense? Was he jerking off in a theater or did he actually do something to children? The whole "sex offender" thing has so many different shades...

"The whole "sex offender" thing has so many different shades."

Yes indeed, in some states taking a leak in public is a misdemeanor charge of Sexual Misconduct and requires lifetime registration as a sex offender (some states also only have ten years of registration as a sex offender if there has not been any other offensenes).

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Why not notify them yourself?

You have the info, you know that by law he doesn't "need" to notify them even though he probably should. I don't think there's any law that says you can't notify them.

Seems like a pretty simple solution. By pass the molester and just deliver the news yourself.

I now have a new question to add to my list as we look for a new house.

Yes, I agree. Obviously the state sees no reason for him to be held accountable beyond what he has already done. As I can see he has no need to notify them, I most certianly will, I'm printing out his info as I type this so that I can at least be able to hand them the offical information, not just heresay.

I know laws are created to protect people, but in this case I feel the wrong person is being protected and the state of Ohio is responsible for it. I've never been one of those "write your congressman" people, but I will be now.

And hell yes, make damn sure your not moving in next to one of them cause obviously, its none of your business as long as they were there first (in ohio). Thats so fucked. What a failure.

[firecracker]

Originally Posted by MikesTraffic

i think sexual offenders should be required to post a sign in their front yard announcing what they have done

Perfect! That way he doesn't have to go around the neighborhood, he can welcome all the harassment possible, all on his front door. But it is a good idea and point.

[StuBradley]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I think thats a bad way to do it.. if he's not required to, then you could get into hot water by trying to harrass him to.

If I was dead set on informing about it, I'd go welcome the new neighbors and at the appropriate moment, whisper to the adult(s) about the neighbor.

The OP already admitted to threatening the guys life so I can't see why he would be worried of any legal ramifications stemming from notifying others in the neighborhood.

Originally Posted by jmcb420

My only reply to him was that if I were to see him in my area again, I would notify the police that I was about to kill somebody and there would be no warning for him.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by StuBradley

The OP already admitted to threatening the guys life so I can't see why he would be worried of any legal ramifications stemming from notifying others in the neighborhood.

I did, and i'm not.

[Sexxxy Sites]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

I'm bothered.......here's why.....

In Ohio, as with any state in the union, should a sex offender move into your area they are requiered by law to go door to door and tell everyone that they are sex offenders.

For example, we have one up the road from us, he notified me personaly when he moved in over the summer.

Well, last month his neighbors moved away and just over this past few days a new family has moved in. This family who just moved in appears to have at least 2 if not more children, and the word around the neighborhood is that the sex offender next door to them has not notified them of his offence because (IT SEEMS) in the state of Ohio, you only have to notify the neighbors when you move in, not the other way around.

Am I wrong in assuming the neighborhood word is correct and he dosen't have to notify them? Does anyone know any better? And if he dosen't have to notify them, would I be out of line by bringing his offence to their attention (it really dosen't matter because i will anyway)?

I know normal people dont know anything about this, I sure as hell dont. Any suggestions?

Some states, if not all, have a disclosure law required by the seller/real estate agent. I do not know if Ohio does but I am satisfied that you can research the matter.

[Fucksakes]

thats gotta be a very ackward situation for ppl.. to go to all your neighbours.. hi I am a sex offender please hide your childrens from me.

what do you say to a guy like that.. I would probably react by punching him in the face and tell him I don't want to see him around here again.

could you imagine if some one came to your house and said.. hi my name is peter and I am a robber and a killer.

[Donfoolio]

That's what happens when you allow those motherfuckers to live. These stupid laws that are made to put a bandaid on a problem that needs an operation.

[PR|Jordan]

One way would be to publish a list of new people who moved in and mail it to the sex offender - but the government would all of a sudden become liable if they missed a house on the list and they were not notified.

[After Shock Media]

I have the unpopular opinion but I feel if people wish to continue punishment after the course of prison beyond any probation, then they should just make it so that the offense itself is either longer or lifetime. I really do not like the whole having it both ways bullshit. Either you do your time and it is done, or you stay in jail.

I personally do not have children so it would not be a current threat to me. However a burglar, identity thief, or homicidal maniac with anger issues could effect me and could move in next door without notifying me. I know some of you may claim it is different but really it isn't.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by Donfoolio

That's what happens when you allow those motherfuckers to live. These stupid laws that are made to put a bandaid on a problem that needs an operation.

I like you. You say shit that I agree with.

[Poindexterity]

i'd do it unless ohio is one of those states where public urination
is counted as a sex offense.

wouldn't that be a bitch?

[seeandsee]

need better laws

[AaronM]

My suggestion is that you mind your own business unless you are head of the neighborhood watch. The guy has complied with the law and it's that simple.

I've had nosey ass neighbors talk about shit that is nobody else's business.

On another note...And I have not read this entire thread...But...How do you know he hasn't told the new people? If somebody asked them "Hey, has Bob told you that he is a convicted sex offender?" then somebody has obviously told them anyway which means they are aware and once again, you should mind your own business.

[Donfoolio]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

I like you. You say shit that I agree with.

great minds think alike.

fuck people who don't see the light

[RayVega]

You do the right thing and tell your neighbors to protect those children. if the guy was convicted then it is your duty as a human being to tell those people right now...i wouldn't even wait until tomorrow. Fuck the guys "privacy" or "rights" , you do what you must to protect innocent children from danger...period.

Not only are you NOT out of line. It would be morally irresponsible and outright reprehensible not to tell them. I cannot believe this is even an issue of debate.

If I was in your shoes and GOD FORBID something happened to those kids, i'd put a shotgun in my mouth. I couldn't live with it.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by RayVega

You do the right thing and tell your neighbors to protect those children. if the guy was convicted then it is your duty as a human being to tell those people right now...i wouldn't even wait until tomorrow. Fuck the guys "privacy" or "rights" , you do what you must to protect innocent children from danger...period.

Not only are you NOT out of line. It would be morally irresponsible and outright reprehensible not to tell them. I cannot believe this is even an issue of debate.

If I was in your shoes and GOD FORBID something happened to those kids, i'd put a shotgun in my mouth. I couldn't live with it.

"Hi, my name is Bob and according to state law, I am supposed to tell you that I am a sex offender."



















What you may not know is that Bob was arrested & convicted for shooting nude pics of a 34 year old lady on a beach that was not zoned as a nude beach. Now Bob is required by law to register as a sex offender.

[applebee]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I think thats a bad way to do it.. if he's not required to, then you could get into hot water by trying to harrass him to.

If I was dead set on informing about it, I'd go welcome the new neighbors and at the appropriate moment, whisper to the adult(s) about the neighbor.

What he said.

[Donfoolio]

Originally Posted by RayVega

You do the right thing and tell your neighbors to protect those children. if the guy was convicted then it is your duty as a human being to tell those people right now...i wouldn't even wait until tomorrow. Fuck the guys "privacy" or "rights" , you do what you must to protect innocent children from danger...period.

Not only are you NOT out of line. It would be morally irresponsible and outright reprehensible not to tell them. I cannot believe this is even an issue of debate.

If I was in your shoes and GOD FORBID something happened to those kids, i'd put a shotgun in my mouth. I couldn't live with it.

Christ and you actually have a gun collection... extreme is too lenient a word. In stead of dying yourself from feeling bad about NOT telling on the guy why not do your civic duty and execute the motherfucker yourself? I would totally understand and respect that as a reaction out of such a passionate person... the choice of rat or suicide leave me to think that is weak and people that weak shouldn't have weapons.

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I have the unpopular opinion but I feel if people wish to continue punishment after the course of prison beyond any probation, then they should just make it so that the offense itself is either longer or lifetime. I really do not like the whole having it both ways bullshit. Either you do your time and it is done, or you stay in jail.

I personally do not have children so it would not be a current threat to me. However a burglar, identity thief, or homicidal maniac with anger issues could effect me and could move in next door without notifying me. I know some of you may claim it is different but really it isn't.

Completely agree.

Also IMO, this law sounds totally absurd - why on earth is a law like this created in the first place? It's the perfect way to cause panic / hatred within a neighbourhood.

[PlugRush Sascha]

Originally Posted by AaronM

"Hi, my name is Bob and according to state law, I am supposed to tell you that I am a sex offender."

What you may not know is that Bob was arrested & convicted for shooting nude pics of a 34 year old lady on a beach that was not zoned as a nude beach. Now Bob is required by law to register as a sex offender.

You have a point, but that's a problem with the law not with the situation at hand. This guy was molesting a 13 year old girl, so people should be notified that he's a fucking child molester. He didn't get convicted for something stupid because the law is retarded. He got convicted for actually molesting a child.

In my opinion, they should kill these bastards by cutting their genitals off and letting them bleed to death.

[munki]

I would def make the neighbors aware... as the real estate representatives should have originally...

[tony286]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I have the unpopular opinion but I feel if people wish to continue punishment after the course of prison beyond any probation, then they should just make it so that the offense itself is either longer or lifetime. I really do not like the whole having it both ways bullshit. Either you do your time and it is done, or you stay in jail.

I personally do not have children so it would not be a current threat to me. However a burglar, identity thief, or homicidal maniac with anger issues could effect me and could move in next door without notifying me. I know some of you may claim it is different but really it isn't.

You have a very valid point. If society sees these people as a continuing threat then they should never see the light of day again. Also registered sex offender can be for many things that have nothing to do with kids. I read that they bang you on a 2257 violation and they put you in jail. When you come out you are a registered sex offender for not cross referencing that one extra time a model who was 30.

[PR|Jordan]

Originally Posted by munki

I would def make the neighbors aware... as the real estate representatives should have originally...

Hey, I have 3 kids to feed and I havent sold SHIT in the last 9 months, but your living next to a sex offender - want to buy the house so i can feed my kids? KTHX

[RayVega]

Originally Posted by Donfoolio

Christ and you actually have a gun collection... extreme is too lenient a word. In stead of dying yourself from feeling bad about NOT telling on the guy why not do your civic duty and execute the motherfucker yourself? I would totally understand and respect that as a reaction out of such a passionate person... the choice of rat or suicide leave me to think that is weak and people that weak shouldn't have weapons.

You are way off here. The liberals have really poisoned the minds of people haven't they. I don't get in "personal" beefs on this board, but you are out of line calling me weak.

A guy is CONVICTED of a sex crime and you don't tell the parents of children next door???
W-T-F?!

Children are innocent and should be protected at all cost. Even at the cost of some douchbags privacy. That's just common sense. RAT??? Are you shitting me? Rat? if the dude touched a kid, or even fucked his girlfriend when she was too drunk to say no and was popped for [sorta] rape...the parents still should know. I can't see it any other way. that's not weak that being a human being. I can't even imagine being such an uptight dick to think I shouldn't tell them.

You mean to tell me that you, in those same shoes could live with yourselves if this asshole raped one of those kids?? Well, then you are "stronger" than me because I couldn't. I couldn't wake up each morning and feel good about who I was. Sorry...maybe I'm weak.