Spankbuxx.com blows away 10 years of affiliate links - GoFuckYourself.com

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 07:31 AM

Hey, this is a heads up for anybody who has ever promoted a Spankbuxx.com site. After a year of struggling (and in some cases, failing) to pay affiliates (see this thread), Spankbuxx.com has announced in an email to affiliates that it will no longer track or pay for sales from any of the links affiliates have installed since Spankbuxx.com went online (with its first site, Spanking Online) in 1999. (To be fair, Spankbuxx.com moved to NATS in June of 2005, blowing off old links at that time, so the current change only blows off 4 year's worth of links unless you updated older links at that time. Picture me, wearily raising my hand.)

If you have ever promoted any of the following sites and still have links up, you need to change or remove them:

SpankingOnline.com
FetishFlixx.com
GirlsBottom.com
SlutSpanking.com
SpankingDigital.com
SpankingMags.com
SpankingImages.com
SpankMyBottom.com
HDSpank.com
SpankPass.com

In case you did not get the email that came out today, Spankbuxx is moving back to CCbill. The old links are still turned on and making sales, but now they are making them for Spankbuxx.com and not for you.

Here's the affiliate email for anybody who did not get it (de-linkified of course):

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!!! IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR ALL SPANKBUXX AFFILIATES !!!

Over the past months SpankBuxx has fallen behind with some payments to affiliates. In order to bring a total end to this situation we have now switched our affiliate program over to CCBILL. With immediate effect CCBILL will handle all FUTURE affiliate payments directly. While Spankbuxx will ensure full payment of all revenues that were generated up until today (and also for all / any future rebills)

WHAT THIS MEANS FOR YOU

1 : OUR NATS ADMIN WILL REMAIN FULLY OPEN FOR YOU TO CHECK YOUR HISTORICAL STATS AND CHECK FOR ALL FUTURE REBILLS THAT POST IN.

2 : YOU WILL NEED TO CHANGE ALL YOUR LINKING CODES TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE OUR PROGRAM. YOU MUST RE JOIN SPANKBUXX THROUGH CCBILL - CLICK HERE TO VISIT

3 : YOU WILL NEED TO CHANGE ALL YOUR LINKING CODES TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE OUR PROGRAM. YOU MUST RE JOIN SPANKBUXX THROUGH CCBILL - CLICK HERE TO VISIT

We are using CCBtools Which Will Allow You To Use New Hosted Galleries & A Range Of Other Tools That We Are Currently Adding Into the New System.

PAYMENT QUESTIONS :

All sales generated as from this point on through CCbill will be paid directly by CCbill. This means that as from now any New sales you generate will be paid from CCBILL. You must though Re - Join our program and change ALL linking codes if you wish to continue promoting our program.

Your Current NATS linking codes no long track traffic or credit sales.

In regards to payments owed before we switched to CCbill these will still be paid in full by our company. We are going through all payment history and will contacting all affiliates shortly with details of when you will be paid revenue earned through the former Spankbuxx Nats powered program. Any and ALL rebills that you still generate before we switched over to CCBill will continue to be credited to your old Spankbuxx Nats Powered account

Our Nats Admin will remain FULLY open for you to check your historical stats and check current stats in relation to any active rebills you have. For all sales you generate after re-joining our program these will be paid by CCbill directly to the affiliate.

ALL SALES FOR ALL SPANKBUXX SITES AS OF TODAY 6TH APRIL 2009 ARE NOW BEING DONE THROUGH CCBILL

THINGS YOU NEED TO DO :

In order to continue to earning revenue through Spankbuxx you need to Re-Join our program ( Link Here ) As stated CCBill will be the company paying all affiliates for all new revenue generated through CCBill. Our new system already has a FHGS and Banners added and we plan on rolling out all tools that come available to users for CCBtools.

YOUR OLD NATS CODES WILL NO LONGER TRACK &THESE MUST BE CHANGED!

We apologize without reservation that we have had to make these changes. It is not a decision we came to lightly. There is no point in trying to give excuses as why etc. Certain issues did occur which has ended up with us having to make this major change to our program.

We do also know that many affiliates will be angry at this change but there is really no other choice we had. We are ready and open to answer ALL your questions and assist you where ever we can with this switch over.

We have a new support desk now open where you should direct all your questions about this change. The link is at the bottom of this page.

ALL PAYMENTS OWED BY OUR COMPANY WILL BE PAID IN FULL

The one good thing about this change is no matter what you will be guaranteed your payments for all future revenue. CCbill pay like clock work - week in week out. We are moving forward developing a massive range of promotional tools for affiliates to use. You can see the kinds of things we will be offering soon from our new affiliate page.

Our New affiliate page is located at : SPANKBUXX.XEROTICS.COM this is for link codes / tools etc only for new stats you would need to check your CCBILL affiliate account. For historical Nats based stats you still use spankbuxx.com. You can also from this point re-join Spankbuxx through CCBILL and / or merge an existing CCbill affiliate account with ours. Full details are on the above url

Again we are sorry that this change had to made but in the long term it is certainly the right move. We will do our very best to assist you over the change over period and are ready to answer any / all questions you might have in regards to the new system, payments or anything else related to our program.

Thank you Paul Spears - SpankBuxx

VISIT OUR NEW AFFILIATE PROGRAM PAGE CLICK HERE

Contact SpankBuxx Support ( New Ticket Desk Location )

Email sent to all affiliates if you do not want this please reply asking for removal

TeenCat · 04-06-2009, 07:33 AM

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 07:35 AM

Thanks for the worthless post-bot bump.

TeenCat · 04-06-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

Thanks for the worthless post-bot bump.

fris · 04-06-2009, 07:45 AM

forkbeard that sucks, its a big loss for them since you are a big affiliate in that niche.

st0ned · 04-06-2009, 07:48 AM

Note to self: Never promote Spankbuxx.

TeenCat · 04-06-2009, 07:53 AM

oh i need to be spanked, now i read the thread cause im not smoked as before and i see that i have to change all codes, does it mean that all galleries have to be removed also or ... ? i am promoting you week or so, so lets go back to work at spankbuxx again?

hjnet · 04-06-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by st0ned

Note to self: Never promote Spankbuxx.

Jep, that was my first thought too....

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

forkbeard that sucks, its a big loss for them since you are a big affiliate in that niche.

Yeah, well, I've been pulling back sharply on traffic since they started having trouble keeping up on payments, but they have some quality content and a very well-established brand, so I was reluctant to pull old links and content. It's also just a huge job of work.

I expect they've pretty much lost all their high-value affiliates by now anyway, so I guess they figure it's time to harvest a bunch of ancient residual affiliate traffic and not pay for it.

Going to CCbill is probably a smart move to try and restore lost affiliate confidence, although as we all know, a company without a commitment to protect old links can have a field day even inside CCBill by constantly changing up the promotional tools.

The only legitimate reason I can see for them to stop honoring old NATS links would be if they had lost their billing. But, if they had lost their billing, would they still be promising to pay old rebills? (Well, they might -- promises are cheap -- but you know what I mean.)

Sarah_Jayne · 04-06-2009, 08:08 AM

They could start by paying me...they said they would be happy to send wires for amounts under $500 but every time I try to contact somebody about it (icq and email) I get no response.

I have hundreds of links up to them on blogs. CCbill does indeed make me happier but it pisses me off not to get the money I am owed on top of having to now change links.

Kron · 04-06-2009, 08:09 AM

damn, really low....

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

They could start by paying me...they said they would be happy to send wires for amounts under $500 but every time I try to contact somebody about it (icq and email) I get no response.

Yeah. I did manage to get paid -- as of February 16, although they are now a couple of payment periods behind with me, again -- but it was an enormous effort. The current promise is a clone of the same thing they have been saying over and over and over for a year or more: "We are going through all payment history and will contacting all affiliates shortly with details of when you will be paid revenue earned through the former Spankbuxx Nats powered program." Your breath, do not hold it.

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I have hundreds of links up to them on blogs.

We are not alone. So does everybody. This is traffic theft on a massive scale.

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

CCbill does indeed make me happier but it pisses me off not to get the money I am owed on top of having to now change links.

Not a word of disagreement here. I tried to be as neutral as possible in my first post on this thread, to make it a useful warning rather than a rant. But, as you can imagine, I'm not very happy.

What pisses me off most is that the CEO and head honcho at Spankbuxx, who I know only as Dino, promised me personally and repeatedly that the problems were behind them and that starting January 1 they would be paying all affiliates every two weeks promptly and without fail. It pisses me off most of all that we're still hearing "we'll be in touch at some unspecified future time, not to pay you but to give you yet another promise about when you might be paid at some other unspecified future time." Really, how dumb do they think we are?

Sarah_Jayne · 04-06-2009, 09:13 AM

Which is all so much more sad because they have excellent content and tours for the market. Not many other spanking sponsors appear to 'get' the market as they do. Of course now I pretty much have to signup again and try to switch out my links so they don't get my sales and give me nothing.

Iron Fist · 04-06-2009, 09:18 AM

Well hunker down and change your links.... might as well spend the week making sure everything has been changed over. On another note, this might be a good idea to cloak your links to sponsors so if this thing happens again, you only need to change one link instead of hundreds or thousands

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Which is all so much more sad because they have excellent content and tours for the market. Not many other spanking sponsors appear to 'get' the market as they do. Of course now I pretty much have to signup again and try to switch out my links so they don't get my sales and give me nothing.

Yup and yup. I've been telling Dino on and off for several years that I could quintuple my sales volume with him if he could fix his payment and trust issues, but he just keeps making them worse with moves like this. It's really a pity because the sites themselves always sold well.

JimmiDean · 04-06-2009, 09:51 AM

Thanks for taking the time to post this info for those of us that missed it.
Changing links can be a real bitch to say the least.

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

On another note, this might be a good idea to cloak your links to sponsors so if this thing happens again, you only need to change one link instead of hundreds or thousands

I was slow to get into this technology, though I am finally using it now in certain cases, and it can be a life-saver sometimes.

Unfortunately, it's unsatisfactory when we're talking about links to hosted galleries; when you've got a blog post with a picture and a bit of "follow this link to see more of this shoot" sales copy, where are you supposed to point that link when the sponsor stops crediting you for sales on that old gallery? Eventually there will be new CCbill galleries, but probably not the right ones using the same now-ancient content; so either you pull the link entirely and rewrite the sales copy, or you end up with misleading links that don't go where you say they go -- a practice I try to avoid.

I know, I know, my ancient policy of not lying to my surfers makes me some sort of freak in this business, but it's served me very very well and I'm not ready to abandon it just yet.

There are no good solutions when a sponsor screws you like this. It's years of creative effort, just fucked.

Obviously this is not the first time this has happened to me, nor will it be the last. But that doesn't keep me from getting weary and disgusted when a sponsor does it for no good reason.

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

If you have ever promoted any of the following sites and still have links up, you need to change or remove them:

SpankingOnline.com
FetishFlixx.com
GirlsBottom.com
SlutSpanking.com
SpankingDigital.com
SpankingMags.com
SpankingImages.com
SpankMyBottom.com
HDSpank.com
SpankPass.com

After a long day pulling dead (financially dead to affiliates, that is; they still work just peachy for SpankBuxx

) gallery links and putting cloaked links (thanks for the suggestion/reminder, Sharphead) into ancient blog posts, I realized I left at least one site off that list quoted above. In addition to those, you'll need to remove any links you've ever made to:

NaughtyBottom.com

It was a pay-per-movie site they implemented in NATS; the old NATS codes (which were different for every movie) are now redirecting to SpankMyBottom.com and of course affiliates aren't being paid for that traffic. There's no CCBill code for these movies in their new CCBill interface, so you can't upgrade these links if you wanted to.

Back to the salt mines...

Forkbeard · 04-06-2009, 04:11 PM

And another one:

SpankedSchoolgirl.com

Sarah_Jayne · 04-07-2009, 05:43 AM

apparently in 48 hours I will know their payment plan for my account

Forkbeard · 04-07-2009, 06:10 AM

Which translates to: "In 48 hours we will make you yet another promise regarding when you will be paid." Prediction: The "plan" will be a statement like "We will have your account brought current within the next month." Another prediction: payment will not occur as "planned".

Sorry, but even though I've gotten *most* of my money out of these guys, Paul Spears in particular is a master of empty bullshit and emptier promises. I, too, have been promised a "plan" within 48 hours; I told him "no more plans, just send money."

Sarah_Jayne · 04-07-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

Which translates to: "In 48 hours we will make you yet another promise regarding when you will be paid." Prediction: The "plan" will be a statement like "We will have your account brought current within the next month." Another prediction: payment will not occur as "planned".

Sorry, but even though I've gotten *most* of my money out of these guys, Paul Spears in particular is a master of empty bullshit and emptier promises. I, too, have been promised a "plan" within 48 hours; I told him "no more plans, just send money."

I like your plan better.

Fletch XXX · 04-07-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

apparently in 48 hours I will know their payment plan for my account

lol a payment plan.

good one.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-07-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

lol a payment plan.

good one.

It isn't even that much..a touch over $400 but I would like to see it.

Forkbeard · 04-07-2009, 11:28 AM

Yeah, as the linked thread from the start of this post makes clear, they seem to have got into a death spiral where they spent or otherwise lost the cash that belonged to their affiliates, and so they've spent a year kiting payments, greasing the squeakiest wheels, and using the "we've initiated a wire transfer into Epassporte, you should have your money next week" excuse so often it feels like they have it on a macro hotkey. Back in December Dino put a lot of effort into calming me down and explaining how he was depositing huge amounts of his own money into the business, putting Paul Spears on a leash (Dino used the phrase "better supervision" if I remember properly) and otherwise blowing copious amounts of smoke up my ass. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any of that was real.

When you need "payment plans" for affiliates you only owe a few hundred dollars to, it's getting pretty sad.

jack.nasty · 08-31-2009, 08:58 PM

We, from the design, also have our contribution to this.
Not only he STOLE me 5k euros, but also STOLE a worker, contracting him unleagally. And that is just the pinpoints, there is much more. I hope this thread get bumped forever.
-
The official BERNARDINO SPADONE FUCKS DESIGNERS thread:

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...6#post16260286

I hope you like to get also spanked your motherfucker italian ladyboy

Fuck you forever

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TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,136	oh i need to be spanked, now i read the thread cause im not smoked as before and i see that i have to change all codes, does it mean that all galleries have to be removed also or ... ? i am promoting you week or so, so lets go back to work at spankbuxx again? __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	They could start by paying me...they said they would be happy to send wires for amounts under $500 but every time I try to contact somebody about it (icq and email) I get no response. I have hundreds of links up to them on blogs. CCbill does indeed make me happier but it pisses me off not to get the money I am owed on top of having to now change links.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Which is all so much more sad because they have excellent content and tours for the market. Not many other spanking sponsors appear to 'get' the market as they do. Of course now I pretty much have to signup again and try to switch out my links so they don't get my sales and give me nothing.

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Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Well hunker down and change your links.... might as well spend the week making sure everything has been changed over. On another note, this might be a good idea to cloak your links to sponsors so if this thing happens again, you only need to change one link instead of hundreds or thousands __________________ i like waffles

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04-07-2009, 05:43 AM	#20
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	apparently in 48 hours I will know their payment plan for my account

04-07-2009, 06:10 AM	#21
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Which translates to: "In 48 hours we will make you yet another promise regarding when you will be paid." Prediction: The "plan" will be a statement like "We will have your account brought current within the next month." Another prediction: payment will not occur as "planned". Sorry, but even though I've gotten most of my money out of these guys, Paul Spears in particular is a master of empty bullshit and emptier promises. I, too, have been promised a "plan" within 48 hours; I told him "no more plans, just send money." __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

04-07-2009, 11:28 AM	#25
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Yeah, as the linked thread from the start of this post makes clear, they seem to have got into a death spiral where they spent or otherwise lost the cash that belonged to their affiliates, and so they've spent a year kiting payments, greasing the squeakiest wheels, and using the "we've initiated a wire transfer into Epassporte, you should have your money next week" excuse so often it feels like they have it on a macro hotkey. Back in December Dino put a lot of effort into calming me down and explaining how he was depositing huge amounts of his own money into the business, putting Paul Spears on a leash (Dino used the phrase "better supervision" if I remember properly) and otherwise blowing copious amounts of smoke up my ass. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any of that was real. When you need "payment plans" for affiliates you only owe a few hundred dollars to, it's getting pretty sad. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

08-31-2009, 08:58 PM	#26
jack.nasty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: São Paulo * Brazil * Posts: 1,361	Let´s add some peppers? We, from the design, also have our contribution to this. Not only he STOLE me 5k euros, but also STOLE a worker, contracting him unleagally. And that is just the pinpoints, there is much more. I hope this thread get bumped forever. - The official BERNARDINO SPADONE FUCKS DESIGNERS thread: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...6#post16260286 I hope you like to get also spanked your motherfucker italian ladyboy Fuck you forever __________________ - - - - - - ICQ: 244-010-962 * Skype, Email & Msn: jack.nasty [at] gmail.com