USA Revolution

[Splum]

Coming soon to a theater near you.

[Thrawn$]

he was in london 2 weeks ago

[bo$$]

There were two huge "boston tea rallys" here in pittsburgh

Lookin kinda ugly

[TheSenator]

Corporate lobbyists love the Tea PArties.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by bo$$

There were two huge "boston tea rallys" here in pittsburgh Lookin kinda ugly

Yep, went to one personally myself, not in Pitt but elsewhere and I tell you what these people are steaming fucking mad and there is a lot more than just Republicans, I saw Libertarians some Green party people, Ron Paul supporters, anarchists and church groups. Pretty scary when some of these groups actually agree with each other.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Corporate lobbyists love the Tea PArties.

Go ahead write it off as some sort of scam or right wing operation, its best if you have no idea whats about to happen to you.

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

With all the things the republicans did over the last 8 yrs, the irony of them beating the drum for revolution 3 months into the next guys administration is just astounding.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Thrawn$

he was in london 2 weeks ago

that's a cool picture

[Useless Warrior]

I hadn't even realized that the tax on tea had gone up. How silly of me.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

With all the things the republicans did over the last 8 yrs, the irony of them beating the drum for revolution 3 months into the next guys administration is just astounding.

exactly... when you look at the real motivations behind this it really looks ugly at it's base.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

With all the things the republicans did over the last 8 yrs, the irony of them beating the drum for revolution 3 months into the next guys administration is just astounding.

What is astounding is that you think its just the Republicans that are beating that drum.

[the.drunk]

i have milk in tea

[Splum]

Originally Posted by nation-x

exactly... when you look at the real motivations behind this it really looks ugly at it's base.

So YOU dont think the government bailing out Wall St is bullshit? YOU dont think the government has overreached its authority over the last 50 years? You lay your LIFE on the line because you think its just "Republicans" that believe in less government. Funny thing is the last Republican President expanded government and its powers, but how you associate the Republican party with limiting government is pure ignorance.

[TheDoc]

100's of people, in the biggest cities in our Country, is one piss of a revolution. Gays have more people protest in one city than this had through the entire Country.

I'm starting to wonder when this minority of people will give into majority of others, that used the system they are bitching about to beat them on the rules they think failed them.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

100's of people, in the biggest cities in our Country, is one piss of a revolution. Gays have more people protest in one city than this had through the entire Country.

Tens of thousands actually it looked like the one I was at had easily 5000 people, but whatever believe what you want.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

With all the things the republicans did over the last 8 yrs, the irony of them beating the drum for revolution 3 months into the next guys administration is just astounding.

Another idiot who doesn't get it.

You think a revolution is needed all because of what has happened in the last 3 months? Where the fuck have you been the last 8 years? Where the fuck have you been the last 20 years? Our government has been heading down the same path for decades, this is nothing new, this has nothing to do with the "parties" changing power or a black man being president. Wake the fuck up.

[StickyGreen]

Most of the people at these protests despise Republicans AND Democrats, because they understand there is no real difference at the top. It's fucking sad how people let the media turn this into another partisan thing. Since democrats are in office now they are labeling all these people as "right-wing extremists," and if Bush was still in power the same exact people would be labeled "left-wing radicals." lol...

You idiots need to figure out a way to see through the bullshit Republican/Democrat paradigm that they constantly distract you with.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Splum

Tens of thousands actually it looked like the one I was at had easily 5000 people, but whatever believe what you want.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

100's across the largest cities in the Country (stated in the article) with the rare 1000's, is 10-20k people.... That is a TINY ass protest.

And if it's like anything here, the right radio was 'at an event that was already going' trying to apply the numbers of every visitor to the cause. Knowing this happened ALL over the Country too, the numbers really are much lower.


For a revolution you need the mass majority of the population to agree with you. While many agree the bailouts need to stop, many do not agree that the Gov is going in the wrong direction - the Minority think this... Many LOVE what Obama is doing.. So bitching about bailout monies you don't agree with is totally different than a revolution of a few hundred people that would get squashed.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Most of the people at these protests despise Republicans AND Democrats, because they understand there is no real difference at the top. It's fucking sad how people let the media turn this into another partisan thing. Since democrats are in office now they are labeling all these people as "right-wing extremists," and if Bush was still in power the same exact people would be labeled "left-wing radicals." lol...

You idiots need to figure out a way to see through the bullshit Republican/Democrat paradigm that they constantly distract you with.

I know from the one here and every caller than came on the radio.. It was 99.9% right wing people, without question - and most extreme at that.

The others showed up for the free drinks and food in the park for the other events going on..

This is totally a right wing move it's not possible to hide it..

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

With all the things the republicans did over the last 8 yrs, the irony of them beating the drum for revolution 3 months into the next guys administration is just astounding.

time to watch "The Obama Deception".

[Martin]

The army and the police have been training for Civil unrest. If the shit really hits the fan I wonder who's side they'll be on.

[TheSenator]

They already focus grouped people like Splum. They figure they can get 30% of the population and feed them slogans, bumper stickers, anti-Obama stuff, etc. The Republicans are setting up Mitt Romney to be inserted into these fake grass root organizations. I have to say Dick Armey is a genius when it comes to these fake grassroot stuff.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

time to watch "The Obama Deception".

NWO

[D Ghost]

bitches love smiley faces

[kane]

Protests don't equal revolution. Remember when Bush won the whitehouse in 2000? there where protests all over the country. There were nearly as many protesters at the inauguration as there were people there to watch the event. People were pissed and a lot of people said he stole the election. There was all kinds of talk of revolution. So what happened? They elected him for a second term.

The Vietnam war era was packed with protests, but there was no revolution.

People are too complacent to revolt. A revolution requires a person to be willing to risk most, if not all, of what they have for a change and that isn't happening anytime soon. American Idol is on and more people are interested in voting for their favorite shitty singer than they are of changing their government.

Here is where I find the irony in the tea party protests. Bush dumped billions into the bailout before Obama ever set foot in the white house so if the protesters are blaming only Obama they have it wrong. If Obama had done nothing and had done like many of the protesters want and just let every that would fail on its own fail we would most likely be in much deeper shit than we are now. So if we had around 20% unemployment because we let most of the banks fail, we let all the businesses that rely on those banks fail and we let the auto industry fail and many of these protesters now were unemployed I think they would then be screaming at Obama for doing nothing.

There will be no revolution. Not today. Not next month. Not next year.

If people really want revolution they should vote for third party candidates. Let these candidates get some votes and use that exposure to raise more money and start to build the strength of these parties. If everyone who said they didn't like either presidential candidate voted third party, we would have a third party. But that doesn't happen. Everyone talks of change, but they don't really want major change.

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

time to watch "The Obama Deception".

To late. I already watched it. ;)

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Another idiot who doesn't get it.

You think a revolution is needed all because of what has happened in the last 3 months? Where the fuck have you been the last 8 years? Where the fuck have you been the last 20 years? Our government has been heading down the same path for decades, this is nothing new, this has nothing to do with the "parties" changing power or a black man being president. Wake the fuck up.

You have no idea who I am or what I believe. So stfu!

The point of my statement is that the republicans have been driving the ship down that "path" and did nothing at all to change it..in fact, only made it worse, but now that they are out of power, it's important to them to "change" things. They are on tv screaming about tyranny every day. Please. All they did was take our rights away, spy on us and shred the constitution.. but they are the ones to save us from where we are today?

[directfiesta]

more then tea-baggers ..... but those were considered traitors, terrorists ..... protesters of the tea parties should be considered the same ....

[tony286]

I think Obama, should say I thought about it and you and the right wing pundits are right. Tomorrow Im pulling all the tarp money and all the stimlus money. Im pulling all government services except the military. Boy would the song would change real quick. People bitch all they want about government but its there working quietly in ways you take for granted.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by tony404

I think Obama, should say I thought about it and you and the right wing pundits are right. Tomorrow Im pulling all the tarp money and all the stimlus money. Im pulling all government services except the military. Boy would the song would change real quick. People bitch all they want about government but its there working quietly in ways you take for granted.

It's pretty scary to see people who actually believe that more government is the answer.

Government is not the solution, it is the problem. Our federal government should run the way the constitution set it up to run and THAT'S IT.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

It's pretty scary to see people who actually believe that more government is the answer.

Government is not the solution, it is the problem. Our federal government should run the way the constitution set it up to run and THAT'S IT.

Really do you like that when you take a drug its safe or the food you eat isnt going to kill you or that the water is safe to drink? Do you like having policeman, fireman, those great parks to have those we dont need government protests in? Do you i like a good road system? Do you like your money insured that if your bank fails that its seamless and everything runs as usual.Do you like the internet? All these things are government run or government financed.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Most of the people at these protests despise Republicans AND Democrats, because they understand there is no real difference at the top. It's fucking sad how people let the media turn this into another partisan thing. Since democrats are in office now they are labeling all these people as "right-wing extremists," and if Bush was still in power the same exact people would be labeled "left-wing radicals." lol...

You idiots need to figure out a way to see through the bullshit Republican/Democrat paradigm that they constantly distract you with.

Your right - there is no difference at the top. It doesn't matter who's in office, it's one party against the other, they spend all of their time fighting each other, and nothing gets down. We so need to kill this two party system.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your right - there is no difference at the top. It doesn't matter who's in office, it's one party against the other, they spend all of their time fighting each other, and nothing gets down. We so need to kill this two party system.

I agree,also make it 8 yrs and your out and you cant work in government. Being a senator or congressman for life is bullshit or coming back as a lobbyist.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by tony404

Really do you like that when you take a drug its safe or the food you eat isnt going to kill you or that the water is safe to drink? Do you like having policeman, fireman, those great parks to have those we dont need government protests in? Do you i like a good road system? Do you like your money insured that if your bank fails that its seamless and everything runs as usual.Do you like the internet? All these things are government run or government financed.

lol, so the federal government should control local police and fire departments? wtf?

Arguing this with you is obviously pointless because you seem to be a cheerleader for the nanny-state. Why anyone would support more centralized government is beyond me.

So where do people like you draw the line, though? What if some people out there are right and we are getting closer to a world government that would basically make the sovereignty of the United States and our constitution obsolete? Would you be alright with that also? Or would that finally be too much government even for you?

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your right - there is no difference at the top. It doesn't matter who's in office, it's one party against the other, they spend all of their time fighting each other, and nothing gets down. We so need to kill this two party system.

I thought maybe you were being sarcastic at first, but I don't think you are. So good shit, you seem to understand the problem.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by tony404

I agree,also make it 8 yrs and your out and you cant work in government. Being a senator or congressman for life is bullshit or coming back as a lobbyist.

Yes, I totally agree with that. People in congress should have term limits just as the president does.

[tony286]

The funny thing is Dick Armey's lobbying firm DLA piper had AIG, Morgan Stanely, Merrill lynch,Lehman brothers for clients in 2008.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

lol, so the federal government should control local police and fire departments? wtf?

Arguing this with you is obviously pointless because you seem to be a cheerleader for the nanny-state. Why anyone would support more centralized government is beyond me.

So where do people like you draw the line, though? What if some people out there are right and we are getting closer to a world government that would basically make the sovereignty of the United States and our constitution obsolete? Would you be alright with that also? Or would that finally be too much government even for you?

The feds put up the money so police and fireman didnt get laid off,state government get federal funds.Remember when clinton was going to put an extra 150,000 cops on the street.That was federal funding to the states. Its the federal government that protects what we do for a living. If it was all states rights porn would be fucked.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Yes, I totally agree with that. People in congress should have term limits just as the president does.

If that happened alot of the waste would disappear.

[PornMD]

At least verbally, Dick Armey has to be one of the coolest names. Knock the e off and he's got a winner visually too!

No point in commenting on these protests - we all know nothing will come of them. There hasn't been a historic protest in quite some time and I don't see one coming out of modern day Americans.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by tony404

The feds put up the money so police and fireman didnt get laid off,state government get federal funds.Remember when clinton was going to put an extra 150,000 cops on the street.That was federal funding to the states. Its the federal government that protects what we do for a living. If it was all states rights porn would be fucked.

Right, but the root of the problem that is constantly overlooked is where the money is coming from. They've got everyone distracted arguing about either how much money or where the money should go, but not many people really understand where the money is coming from in the first place, and they don't understand why a lot of the money being created by the Federal Reserve is a bad thing.

[nation-x]

First of all, let me say that I am in total agreement that the tax system sucks and needs a complete overhaul. There are way too many loopholes and the current system is just fucked, ambiguous and not fair to anyone.

This is the problem I see with most of the tea party proponents and most of the conservative talkers is that they are focused on fantasy rather than reality. I think people have the right to be outraged about the current state of the economy and the size of government.... however, I think it is completely unfair to blame this on Obama because he is doing the best he can with what he has to work with. You might not agree with what steps he is taking but you don't have your ass in his seat.

I hear alot of bitching and bitching and bitching... but not one of the people bitching is really presenting any viable alternative plans. They are purely bitching and placing labels on the situation that don't apply for the most part. I seriously can't imagine the complexity of the issues that any President has to deal with. Do I think big government is the answer to our problems? NO. Guess what? Neither does Obama. That label is purely a bullshit talking point that the "anti" people place on liberals/democrats or anyone else that supports the Presidents/Democratic Party agenda. I will agree that the far left might think that... but I am not far left... and neither is Obama... no matter how much Fox, the Republicans and Libertarians want to paint him as that.

All in all, I think most Democrats like the Libertarian Platform... it's ALMOST identical to the Democratic Party Platform at it's base... EXCEPT that the Democrats actually have developed real plans and not just talking points and positions... compare them for yourself and you will see what I am saying.

Now... I think the two party system sucks shitty assholes. We live in a country where you can't get anywhere without corporate sponsorship or millions of dollars in backing. The whole political system has become a clusterfuck of corruption because of it. I agree that we need term limits for congress because the fact that we don't totally supports the status quo. In addition, I think there should be "truth in advertising" laws for political ads because pretty much any political campaign these days has lied about their opponents on any given day. I also think that 527's and PAC's to support a particular candidate should be outlawed. I think it's fine for them to support issues but they shouldn't be allowed to use financial power to promote a particular candidate over the other or smear any particular candidate. The only purpose that serves is to confuse the voters about the candidates. It is also how the 2 parties dominate the conversation.

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

NWO