I really think bwin poker is rigged..

[biskoppen]

I've bee playing there for years and there's a pattern that repeats itself over and over again..

I any give tournament, when the first low stack is all in it wins 9 out of 10 times with the worst hand.. it seems like their script gives the bad players a second chance so they feel like coming back and playing again or something..

I know all the "there's no point in them doing this" arguments etc.. but this is something I have been keeping an eye on for quite some time and it's sick.. you ALWAYS knows when the small stack is all in something magical will happen on the board to save his ass

are you tryng to promote this company? please go back to the chalkboard

[The Duck]

I think many of those things are rigged.

[biskoppen]

Originally Posted by MrCodey

are you tryng to promote this company? please go back to the chalkboard

Do you fall over alot?

[biskoppen]

Originally Posted by kandah

I think many of those things are rigged.

I just know what I've seen during these years when it comes to that exact scenario in my initial post there no fucking way that is by chance.. no way

[polle54]

lol

No major poker place is rigged. Period.

The mind likes to see patterns because randomness is so much harder to cope with. If you wanna have any chance of winning in poker you have got to trust statistics and stop saying such gibberish.

Get PokerTracker and EV analyzer and you will see over no more than around 50.000-100.000 hands everything evens out. Nothing is rigged it is so easy to prove and the chance of their money stream beeing broken by a bad rep is simply not an affordable risk.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by polle54

lol

No major poker place is rigged. Period.

The mind likes to see patterns because randomness is so much harder to cope with. If you wanna have any chance of winning in poker you have got to trust statistics and stop saying such gibberish.

Get PokerTracker and EV analyzer and you will see over no more than around 50.000-100.000 hands everything evens out. Nothing is rigged it is so easy to prove and the chance of their money stream beeing broken by a bad rep is simply not an affordable risk.

You can trust your government too. Nothing shady there. And large corporations don't cook the books. Don't forget that one.

I ran gaming sites before shifting in to adult and in that time I've seen the inside workings of many different software platforms.

I'm glad you don't think the games are rigged. They count on people like you to keep playing.

[Martin]

I lost a $400 pot in a live game last night with pocket aces. Pocket Jacks hit the last jack in the deck on the river, poker=rigged.

[hardcoreblogger]

play at stars instead

[Jayvis]

I don't think poker sites are rigged, but to say there hasn't been shady things to occur in online poker history is not quite accurate.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/200...es-613444.html

[KillerK]

People also don't think affiliate programs shave.

[Klen]

I dont know,someone on gfy signuped on my casino affiliate link and earned 3000 euros so somehow i doubt it's rigged.

[polle54]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

You can trust your government too. Nothing shady there. And large corporations don't cook the books. Don't forget that one.

I ran gaming sites before shifting in to adult and in that time I've seen the inside workings of many different software platforms.

I'm glad you don't think the games are rigged. They count on people like you to keep playing.

Quagmire please understand that just because you are a losing player it doesn't mean it is rigged.

Here's my last 48.000 played hands.



I can tell you that my Estimated Value and the money made there match with under 1% accurracy..

The Estimated value of a hand is based on how many money is invested in the pot and the likelyness of me winning the hand.

Example:

I have: QQ (71.82% to win)
My Opponent has: AJ (27.78% to win)

To simplify the example let's say that we go all in before the flop both of us.
We have $100 each.

That means the pot will be $200.
I win 71.82% of the times hence my estimated value of this hand is $71.82

So when I have been in this situation 1000 times I should have won $7180 (rake not taken into consideration).
When I check my stats my actualy earnings match my Estimated value of the diciscions I have made, hence the place is not fucking rigged.

As you can see there are swings and over 5000 hands I am maybe down 10 buy ins. That is the variance you are so confused about and call Rigged LOL

I do not expect that you understand one single word of this. It requires a normal working brain to comprehen.

[biskoppen]

Polle, your earnings has nothing to do with online poker being rigged or not..

The good players WILL make money in the long run, that has nothing to do with the scripts giving bad players second chances to give them a feeling of a little more value for their buck..

[polle54]

Originally Posted by biskoppen

Polle, your earnings has nothing to do with online poker being rigged or not..

The good players WILL make money in the long run, that has nothing to do with the scripts giving bad players second chances to give them a feeling of a little more value for their buck..

Let me know what kind of things I should look fore and I will look up the numbers in my database for you.
I really don't think the sites are rigged.
It is risking millions upon millions of dollars floating in each day.

The biggest sites makes million each hour just on beeing the biggest and most trusted site in the world.

I know a manager for EverestPoker who worked for Ladbrokes. All employees has access to the full data view. It would have gotten out if it was rigged.

[biskoppen]

I put all the information in my initial post

[polle54]

Originally Posted by biskoppen

I put all the information in my initial post

Hmm okay that I can't see from my own stats...

But I think it should be quite easy to document.

Take note of maybe 500 situations by railing some tours.

Note hand number (for documentation)
Note Odds (Estimated value)
Note Outcome (Who wins)
And stacksizes.

I know it is a lot of work but if you are convinced this is a fact it would be very very much worth it
I personally don't believe it, but if I see a sample size of 500 situations I might be convinced.

[bloggerz]

play with friends and have more fun

[Martin]

[$5 submissions]

Speaking of poker... If anyone needs ORIGINAL high quality but dirt cheap Poker and online gaming content, hit me up

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by polle54

Quagmire please understand that just because you are a losing player it doesn't mean it is rigged.

Here's my last 48.000 played hands.



I can tell you that my Estimated Value and the money made there match with under 1% accurracy..

The Estimated value of a hand is based on how many money is invested in the pot and the likelyness of me winning the hand.

Example:

I have: QQ (71.82% to win)
My Opponent has: AJ (27.78% to win)

To simplify the example let's say that we go all in before the flop both of us.
We have $100 each.

That means the pot will be $200.
I win 71.82% of the times hence my estimated value of this hand is $71.82

So when I have been in this situation 1000 times I should have won $7180 (rake not taken into consideration).
When I check my stats my actualy earnings match my Estimated value of the diciscions I have made, hence the place is not fucking rigged.

As you can see there are swings and over 5000 hands I am maybe down 10 buy ins. That is the variance you are so confused about and call Rigged LOL

I do not expect that you understand one single word of this. It requires a normal working brain to comprehen.

Congrats on being painfully retarded. Sadly there isn't any medication you can take to correct this. I do not expect you to understand a single word of this since your comprehension ability is obviously that of a fruitfly.

If you had any of said ability you would have noticed that I said I ran sites, I didn't say I was a player.

[Jack Sparrow]

Well if someone wants to take a look at my badbeats on pokerstars, im sure you will agree theres something fishy there too



lolpic only.

[Lamis]

Originally Posted by kandah

I think many of those things are rigged.

I actually think your mom got fucked by 5 niggas and cummed on...

what retard small country of the nazi cold ugly scandinavian area are you from ?

dont be a coward and say it.

Originally Posted by Martin

I lost a $400 pot in a live game last night with pocket aces. Pocket Jacks hit the last jack in the deck on the river, poker=rigged.

Having cards is one thing, betting is another, you never proved to him you had pocket aces and kept him in the game.. Pocket Aces does not equal win, it equals betting control... The real game of poker is now available to you.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by KillerK

People also don't think affiliate programs shave.

They also have weird misconceptions about cookies and pixel-based tracking

[Martin]

Originally Posted by MrCodey

Having cards is one thing, betting is another, you never proved to him you had pocket aces and kept him in the game.. Pocket Aces does not equal win, it equals betting control... The real game of poker is now available to you.

I went all in pre flop for $170 after a raise and re-raise.

Originally Posted by Martin

I went all in pre flop for $170 after a raise and re-raise.

online or off?

if it was offline, well you got burned by odds, it happens,

Check out this video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_OYwPGMaqMc

But if it was online, you got burned the second you signed up...
there's probably 500 ways to destroy you online from other players or house angles

[dig420]

Originally Posted by polle54

lol

No major poker place is rigged. Period.

The mind likes to see patterns because randomness is so much harder to cope with. If you wanna have any chance of winning in poker you have got to trust statistics and stop saying such gibberish.

Get PokerTracker and EV analyzer and you will see over no more than around 50.000-100.000 hands everything evens out. Nothing is rigged it is so easy to prove and the chance of their money stream beeing broken by a bad rep is simply not an affordable risk.

So tell me.... exactly how many more of them have to be caught red-handed before you sound just a tiny little bit less self-righteous and all knowing on this subject?