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Vendzilla · 06-12-2009, 11:14 AM

Our state government is having problems paying for everything, then they try to pass bullshit like this. They want to make it illegal to get ammo from anyone but a licenced ammo dealer. I get ammo from my dad who reloads it, it would make it illegal for him to give it to me. What kind of idiot dreamed this up? I go shooting and use over 500 rounds each time I go and I should be able to get it from my dad. This from the people that want to make it illegal to sell black cars because it takes more fuel to keep them cool during the summer?

On June 3, the Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962 by a 42-31 vote. AB962 now heads to the Senate where it has been assigned to the Senate Public Safety Committee. Also on June 3, Senate Bill 585 passed the Senate by a vote of 21-18. It now moves to the Assembly where it will be considered by the Assembly Public Safety Committee. No hearing dates have been scheduled for either bill.

Sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB962 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a ?handgun ammunition vendor? in the Department of Justice?s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.

SB585, introduced by State Senator Mark Leno (D-3), would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition on the property or inside the buildings that comprise the Cow Palace . In short, SB585 is a stepping-stone to banning gun shows on all publicly-owned property in California .

Just Mike · 06-12-2009, 11:16 AM

I want to move out of this state...this is retarded

BradM · 06-12-2009, 11:21 AM

It's also required to pay tax on biofuel. There's an easy way to get around this - just don't.

Mr Pheer · 06-12-2009, 11:22 AM

What state is doing this?

*edit * nevermind, I see its California.That kind of explains a lot, California has some of the most fucked up laws ever. Dont know what to tell you, except to move. I'd like to live there because of how beautiful it is, but its much too restrictive on things I like to do such as offroading and shooting, etc.

Sly · 06-12-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

What state is doing this?

The great state of California.

They have the neatest laws.

BradM · 06-12-2009, 11:25 AM

I am really tired of government putting their dipsticks SO FAR up my personal life's ass.

Sly · 06-12-2009, 11:28 AM

Northern and Southern California are so different... you guys should split up. The politics of Southern California are going to impact Northern California more and more.

IllTestYourGirls · 06-12-2009, 11:31 AM

There is an exodus out of Cali because their socialism/fascism is not working.

What Cali takes in for revenue:
Personal income tax down 39.3%
Corporate taxes down 52.1
Sales tax down 7.6%

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...55974820090610

More stupid shit laws like the homeschooling laws and these gun laws will drive out the rest of those who wish to live freely.

RyuLion · 06-12-2009, 11:42 AM

I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

Another question.

Do you need a gun to Feel secure?

DWB · 06-12-2009, 11:42 AM

That's the bitter sweet taste of freedom.

Sly · 06-12-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

Another question.

Do you need a gun to Feel secure?

A better question is why does the state want to punish thousands of gun owners that are responsible and properly handle their weapons due to felons and ex-convicts acquiring weapons illegally?

IllTestYourGirls · 06-12-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

Another question.

Do you need a gun to Feel secure?

The second amendment has little to do with recreation, personal protection and/or hunting.

With that said I dont own any guns or weapons.

RyuLion · 06-12-2009, 12:08 PM

I feel safe/secure without a gun -btw

Vendzilla · 06-12-2009, 12:12 PM

the superior court already ruled on weapons,we have the right to own them

As far as feeling safe, if you put out on your front door a NRA sticker, chances of someone wanting to commit a crime on your property just went down, Criminals prefer those that are UNARMED

pornguy · 06-12-2009, 12:14 PM

They are fucking idiots..

Honestly. If they said. If you dont by from a licensed dealer we REQUEST that you pay 10% tax on what you got. The Basic Value.. Would you do it??? I sure as hell would. It helps us all

jmcb420 · 06-12-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

Another question.

Do you need a gun to Feel secure?

I have guns (certian ones) strictly for recreation. Others for sport (I hunt..) and one that I carry almost always as I am cleared to legally carry a firearm in Ohio.

I dont feel any less safe when I dont carry then when I do. I'm a rare breed, I will admit that 90% of the people who legally do own guns shouldn't be allowed to own guns at all.

Criminals will always have them, no matter what. Thats why laws like this bother me.

What is going on in Cali isn't good. I dont live there anymore, but since I still live in the states I'm aware that what happens in one place is likely to have an effect elsewhere. I hope that shit fails, and I pray we dont see it here should the "great" state of California pass it.

That said I must also say, since it is California, it will likely pass and another piece of our freedom is out the fucking window.

sandman! · 06-12-2009, 01:08 PM

reason #184 that i would never live in cali.

seems like cali is the birth of every fucked up law i have seen.

V_RocKs · 06-12-2009, 01:59 PM

What ever... I will still buy my ammo from my friends dad.

Vendzilla · 06-12-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

What ever... I will still buy my ammo from my friends dad.

I guess i'll help my dad reload now, make it a joint effort and that way get around it

TheDoc · 06-12-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

the superior court already ruled on weapons,we have the right to own them

As far as feeling safe, if you put out on your front door a NRA sticker, chances of someone wanting to commit a crime on your property just went down, Criminals prefer those that are UNARMED

Correct, we do have the right to own guns.. but it doesn't say we have the rights to ammo. That's the nasty they are working.... wait until the tax goes up.

And if you can make ammo, the Gov wants to know because under some other law, they have the rights buy/take the ammo, or a % of it, before you can use or sell it.

pussyluver · 06-12-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

Another question.

Do you need a gun to Feel secure?

yes 45678

IllTestYourGirls · 06-12-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Correct, we do have the right to own guns.. but it doesn't say we have the rights to ammo. That's the nasty they are working.... wait until the tax goes up.

And if you can make ammo, the Gov wants to know because under some other law, they have the rights buy/take the ammo, or a % of it, before you can use or sell it.

Is a bullet an arm?

Kevin Marx · 06-12-2009, 03:51 PM

welcome to the new world. it's just going to get weirder and weirder as the days go by.

geedub · 06-12-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

The great state of California.

They have the neatest laws.

lol that they do. glad you moved back to your homeland. the midwest keeps it real!

bluemoney · 06-12-2009, 04:57 PM

I have personally stopped a potential crime twice by pulling my .357 and holding it by my side. Never fired a shot.

"Stella" has a way of changing bad behavior before it becomes criminal behavior.

baddog · 06-12-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

I feel safe/secure without a gun -btw

So, don't get one. Leave those of us that do like them alone.

TheDoc · 06-12-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Is a bullet an arm?

Nope, it's a bullet... just like arms doesn't mean a rocket launcher or a tank..

iseeyou · 06-12-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

A better question is why does the state want to punish thousands of gun owners that are responsible and properly handle their weapons due to felons and ex-convicts acquiring weapons illegally?

Because it is much easier to control honest, peaceful people. Apprehending violent criminals with weapons is simply too dangerous.

You may find this funny, but this is not a joke.

IllTestYourGirls · 06-12-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iseeyou

Because it is much easier to control honest, peaceful people. Apprehending violent criminals with weapons is simply too dangerous.

You may find this funny, but this is not a joke.

The second amendment is not worried with the people it is worried about the government.

Sly · 06-12-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

The second amendment is not worried with the people it is worried about the government.

His answer was referring to why politicians want to punish the innocent, not about the Second Amendment and its intentions.

IllTestYourGirls · 06-12-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

His answer was referring to why politicians want to punish the innocent, not about the Second Amendment and its intentions.

ok

iseeyou · 06-12-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

His answer was referring to why politicians want to punish the innocent, not about the Second Amendment and its intentions.

Thanks, Sly. I will further add that this is a proposed California law and not US federal law.

Furious_Male · 06-12-2009, 05:56 PM

They have slowly been chipping away at gun owners for a long time now. I don't think its going to stop anytime soon either. Cali won't be the only state to adopt this law I am sure others will follow.

Vendzilla · 06-13-2009, 11:05 AM

I just don't get it, if they would do something about the people that own guns that were doing so illegaly, thats one thing, but why are they going after people that own them legally? Thats why they are MORONS! and we elected them, time for a shake up! Remeber that this is a constitutional right, how many rights do you think you will loose after they take away your guns?

BV · 06-13-2009, 01:33 PM

Vendzilla · 06-13-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

NIce shot, save the meat!
I might go up to idaho net year for Carribou

Kevin Marx · 06-13-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iseeyou

Because it is much easier to control honest, peaceful people. Apprehending violent criminals with weapons is simply too dangerous.

You may find this funny, but this is not a joke.

Retracting the basic rights of the Bill of Rights is exactly what you are stating. It is much easier to control the honest, peaceful people. Controlling reloads is just a step in the direction of controlling the guns of the honest ones. No one really cares about controlling the criminals, because when push comes to shove, the criminals will get the weapons when they really want one. Criminals don't go and get their ID's checked and wait 7 days to get armed. They do it by nefarious means.

Apprehending violent criminals with weapons????? They will always have weapons... even when the weapons are taken from the honest people. Plain and simple. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Criminals don't follow the rules. If you Dis-arm the people, you simply make it easier for the "state" to control the people rather than the people controlling the state as it was intended from day 1.

Vendzilla · 06-13-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

California is completely bankrupt, companies are moving out in droves, the property values have dropped 30%, and the people are just plain mad at the government. If I were in government in CA it might not be a bad idea. Seriously, just go to midway and buy a home reload kit and stock up on shells and bullets. You can always order the powder later if needed and "roll" your own. Plus when you find what your gun/rifle likes and it pulls tighter groups it's much more fun. Actually addicting and cost is a lot cheaper then you think.

I hate gathering rounds from my AR-15, brass goes everywhere

Mr Pheer · 06-13-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I hate gathering rounds from my AR-15, brass goes everywhere

You can buy brass catchers for them, they work pretty well.

One of my AR15's fires the FN 5.7mm round. Has a FN P90 50-round magazine attached to the top of the upper receiver, and spits the brass out the regular magazine well. I use a hollowed out 30rd AR magazine to catch it.

BFT3K · 06-13-2009, 11:47 PM

In some states you now have to fail an intelligence test in order to qualify to purchase a gun.

Vendzilla · 06-14-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

You can buy brass catchers for them, they work pretty well.

One of my AR15's fires the FN 5.7mm round. Has a FN P90 50-round magazine attached to the top of the upper receiver, and spits the brass out the regular magazine well. I use a hollowed out 30rd AR magazine to catch it.

More weight? No, I would rather have the extra weight of something that helps me hit the target, like maybe night optics?
HEhehehehe

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,202	New gun laws Our state government is having problems paying for everything, then they try to pass bullshit like this. They want to make it illegal to get ammo from anyone but a licenced ammo dealer. I get ammo from my dad who reloads it, it would make it illegal for him to give it to me. What kind of idiot dreamed this up? I go shooting and use over 500 rounds each time I go and I should be able to get it from my dad. This from the people that want to make it illegal to sell black cars because it takes more fuel to keep them cool during the summer? On June 3, the Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962 by a 42-31 vote. AB962 now heads to the Senate where it has been assigned to the Senate Public Safety Committee. Also on June 3, Senate Bill 585 passed the Senate by a vote of 21-18. It now moves to the Assembly where it will be considered by the Assembly Public Safety Committee. No hearing dates have been scheduled for either bill. Sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB962 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a ?handgun ammunition vendor? in the Department of Justice?s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. SB585, introduced by State Senator Mark Leno (D-3), would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition on the property or inside the buildings that comprise the Cow Palace . In short, SB585 is a stepping-stone to banning gun shows on all publicly-owned property in California . __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,202	the superior court already ruled on weapons,we have the right to own them As far as feeling safe, if you put out on your front door a NRA sticker, chances of someone wanting to commit a crime on your property just went down, Criminals prefer those that are UNARMED __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,202	I just don't get it, if they would do something about the people that own guns that were doing so illegaly, thats one thing, but why are they going after people that own them legally? Thats why they are MORONS! and we elected them, time for a shake up! Remeber that this is a constitutional right, how many rights do you think you will loose after they take away your guns? __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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