Decrypting a NATS code?

[closer]

One of my sponsors is using his own NATS code in the newsletters he sends the customers I sent, thus, resulting in me loosing $$$

Now, the NATS code is very similar to mine all but 1 letter

mine is MTk6Mjc6Mjg
Theirs is MTY6Mjc6Mjg

Is there a way to decrypt this code so I can see the non-encrypted version?

[NinjaSteve]

How are you losing money? The sponsor is sending it to customers that already signed up for the site?

[closer]

Well, as far as I know, their cookie overwrites mine so if people charge their wallet (its a payperviewsite) its credited to their NATS cookie...

[Si]

Not sure what's going on there but,

I'd drop them ASAP.

[closer]

Me neither ... sent them an email to ask clarification on this ..

[TMM_John]

Its not really encrypted, it's just base64 encoded.

[spacedog]

MTk6Mjc6Mjg is your USERNAME + parameter(s)

MTk6Mjc6Mjgg is the same with an additional parameter.

IE:

spacedog = MTAyOTUyOj
but spacedog + parameter for PPS = MTAyOTUyOjU6NTQ

So, you ARE being credited for any sales generated, because your username IS in the link code

[spacedog]

An easy way to see this in action is to login to a nats sponsor that has multiple sites.

You will see each site has a different nats code, however, the beginning portion of that remains constant, because that is the base64 version of your login/user name while the rest of the code is parameters such as pps or rev, paysite, console free or with consoles, etc, etc

[sortie]

Originally Posted by TMM_John

Its not really encrypted, it's just base64 encoded.

http://ooaz.com/cgi-bin/unb64.cgi?a=MTY6Mjc6Mjg

I don't know if this is what he's looking for though.

[HookUPcom]

Originally Posted by closer

Well, as far as I know, their cookie overwrites mine so if people charge their wallet (its a payperviewsite) its credited to their NATS cookie...

I get the question and think I can speak to this...

Your sponsor is email marketing members that signed up from you... That is ok. Once someone joins and becomes a member, even though they haven't paid, they are in NATS as your member. Even if they click other NATS codes later. Once they join, you got em... Even if they don't pay for 2 years.

Cookies are only important before they signup.

At least that is the way it is for us... On NATS. A member ID over-rules cookies. I think.

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by HookUPcom

I get the question and think I can speak to this...

Your sponsor is email marketing members that signed up from you... That is ok. Once someone joins and becomes a member, even though they haven't paid, they are in NATS as your member. Even if they click other NATS codes later. Once they join, you got em... Even if they don't pay for 2 years.

Cookies are only important before they signup.

At least that is the way it is for us... On NATS. A member ID over-rules cookies. I think.

Sure

What happens when the idiot forgets he signed up and resigns up?

[HookUPcom]

Originally Posted by KillerK

Sure

What happens when the idiot forgets he signed up and resigns up?

Well, if he put the same email in, it would probably say, "This account is already in use." And he'd have to sign up under a different email address.

I do agree with you abit.. I'm not sure why they need to use NATS code in an email. Putting a Google identifier or something would give them better stats. I think it is something that you could ask them about.

[closer]

Originally Posted by spacedog

MTk6Mjc6Mjg is your USERNAME + parameter(s)

MTk6Mjc6Mjgg is the same with an additional parameter.

IE:

spacedog = MTAyOTUyOj
but spacedog + parameter for PPS = MTAyOTUyOjU6NTQ

So, you ARE being credited for any sales generated, because your username IS in the link code

So NOT right ... I have another code that i use on google adwords "MTgyOjI3OjI4" and used that one to check ... again theirs (MTY6Mjc6Mjg) came up.

its so weird as it is only 1 letter different from my default code

[closer]

Originally Posted by sortie

http://ooaz.com/cgi-bin/unb64.cgi?a=MTY6Mjc6Mjg

I don't know if this is what he's looking for though.

PERFECT! although numeric values it gives me an idea

My default code MTk6Mjc6Mjg gives : 19:27:28
My google adwords campaign code MTgyOjI3OjI4 gives: 182:27:28

Their code MTY6Mjc6Mjg gives: 16:27:28

So its: USER,CAMPAIGN:PROGRAM:SITE


As I only have 2 campaigns for this site, default and adwords, I can be sure now its their own code. Thanks sortie!

[closer]

Originally Posted by HookUPcom

At least that is the way it is for us... On NATS. A member ID over-rules cookies. I think.

Interesting, can another NATS client confirm this?

[spacedog]

Originally Posted by closer

So NOT right ...

What I say is 100% correct for DEFAULT CAMPAIGNS.

Login to your account. Click link codes.

find "Switch between Encoded or Decoded link codes" click [Switch]

You will miraculously see the unencrypted link code and that it indeed does include your username in the code.

Now, if you have a campaign set up, like for adwords, you will see this also in the unencoded link, usually represented as a series of numbers.. so, decoded would be like this:
username;123456:param:param.

Now, since there is a campaign, you end up with an entirely different NATS code because that's what base64 does.

Trust me, you're not being fucked here.

[fallenmuffin]

Default code "MTk6Mjc6Mjg" = 19:27:28
AdWords code "MTgyOjI3OjI4" = 182:27:28

"Their" code "MTY6Mjc6Mjg" = 16:27:28

Based on TMM_John saying its Base64. Look like variable holders that relate to a DB for these values: http://wiki.toomuchmedia.com/index.php/Nats_encode

Who knows... 27:28 is the same on all three.

[closer]

Originally Posted by spacedog

Trust me, you're not being fucked here.

I would trust you if their code was the same as 1 of my 2 codes, but it isn't, its different (even though only 1 letter) and I cannot find this code in my link codes section, so its not mine