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Old 08-02-2009, 03:28 PM   #1
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Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US until 9/11

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds dropped a bombshell on the Mike Malloy radio show, guest-hosted by Brad Friedman (audio, partial transcript).

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Former FBI translator and founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, Sibel Edmonds.


In the interview, Sibel says that the US maintained ?intimate relations? with Bin Laden, and the Taliban, ?all the way until that day of September 11.?

These ?intimate relations? included using Bin Laden for ?operations? in Central Asia, including Xinjiang, China. These ?operations? involved using al Qaeda and the Taliban in the same manner ?as we did during the Afghan and Soviet conflict,? that is, fighting ?enemies? via proxies.

As Sibel has previously described, and as she reiterates in this latest interview, this process involved using Turkey (with assistance from ?actors from Pakistan, and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia?) as a proxy, which in turn used Bin Laden and the Taliban and others as a proxy terrorist army.

Control of Central Asia

The goals of the American ?statesmen? directing these activities included control of Central Asia?s vast energy supplies and new markets for military products.

The Americans had a problem, though. They needed to keep their fingerprints off these operations to avoid a) popular revolt in Central Asia ( Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan), and b) serious repercussions from China and Russia. They found an ingenious solution: Use their puppet-state Turkey as a proxy, and appeal to both pan-Turkic and pan-Islam sensibilities.

Turkey, a NATO ally, has a lot more credibility in the region than the US and, with the history of the Ottoman Empire, could appeal to pan-Turkic dreams of a wider sphere of influence. The majority of the Central Asian population shares the same heritage, language and religion as the Turks.

In turn, the Turks used the Taliban and al Qaeda, appealing to their dreams of a pan-Islamic caliphate (Presumably. Or maybe the Turks/US just paid very well.)

According to Sibel:

This started more than a decade-long illegal, covert operation in Central Asia by a small group in the US intent on furthering the oil industry and the Military Industrial Complex, using Turkish operatives, Saudi partners and Pakistani allies, furthering this objective in the name of Islam.

Uighurs

Sibel was recently asked to write about the recent situation with the Uighurs in Xinjiang, but she declined, apart from saying that ?our fingerprint is all over it.?

Of course, Sibel isn?t the first or only person to recognize any of this. Eric Margolis, one of the best reporters in the West on matters of Central Asia, stated that the Uighurs in the training camps in Afghanistan up to 2001:

?were being trained by Bin Laden to go and fight the communist Chinese in Xinjiang, and this was not only with the knowledge, but with the support of the CIA, because they thought they might use them if war ever broke out with China.?

And also that:

?Afghanistan was not a hotbed of terrorism, these were commando groups, guerrilla groups, being trained for specific purposes in Central Asia.?

In a separate interview, Margolis said:

?That illustrates Henry Kissinger?s bon mot that the only thing more dangerous than being America?s enemy is being an ally, because these people were paid by the CIA, they were armed by the US, these Chinese Muslims from Xinjiang, the most-Western province.

The CIA was going to use them in the event of a war with China, or just to raise hell there, and they were trained and supported out of Afghanistan, some of them with Osama Bin Laden?s collaboration. The Americans were up to their ears with this.?

Rogues Gallery

Last year, Sibel came up with a brilliant idea to expose some of the criminal activity that she is forbidden to speak about: she published eighteen photos, titled ?Sibel Edmonds? State Secrets Privilege Gallery,? of people involved the operations that she has been trying to expose. One of those people is Anwar Yusuf Turani, the so-called ?President-in-exile? of East Turkistan (Xinjiang). This so-called ?government-in-exile? was ?established? on Capitol Hill in September, 2004, drawing a sharp rebuke from China.

Also featured in Sibel?s Rogues Gallery was ?former? spook Graham Fuller, who was instrumental in the establishment of Turani?s ?government-in-exile? of East Turkistan. Fuller has written extensively on Xinjiang, and his ? Xinjiang Project? for Rand Corp is apparently the blueprint for Turani?s government-in-exile. Sibel has openly stated her contempt for Mr. Fuller.

Susurluk

The Turkish establishment has a long history of mingling matters of state with terrorism, drug trafficking and other criminal activity, best exemplified by the 1996 Susurluk incident which exposed the so-called Deep State.

Sibel states that ?a few main Susurluk actors also ended up in Chicago where they centered ?certain? aspects of their operations (Especially East Turkistan-Uighurs).?

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One of the main Deep State actors, Mehmet Eymur, former Chief of Counter-Terrorism for Turkey?s intelligence agency, the MIT, features in Sibel?s Rogues Gallery. Eymur was given exile in the US. Another member of Sibel?s gallery, Marc Grossman was Ambassador to Turkey at the time that the Susurluk incident exposed the Deep State. He was recalled shortly after, prior to the end of his assignment, as was Grossman?s underling, Major Douglas Dickerson, who later tried to recruit Sibel into the spying ring.

The modus operandi of the Susurluk gang is the same as the activities that Sibel describes as taking place in Central Asia, the only difference is that this activity was exposed in Turkey a decade ago, whereas the organs of the state in the US, including the corporate media, have successfully suppressed this story.

Chechnya, Albania & Kosovo

Central Asia is not the only place where American foreign policy makers have shared interests with Bin Laden. Consider the war in Chechnya. As I documented here, Richard Perle and Stephen Solarz (both in Sibel?s gallery) joined other leading neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams, Kenneth Adelman, Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen, James Woolsey, and Morton Abramowitz in a group called the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). For his part, Bin Laden donated $25 million to the cause, as well as numerous fighters, and technical expertise, establishing training camps.

US interests also converged with those of al-Qaeda in Kosovo and Albania.

Of course, it is not uncommon for circumstances to arise where ?the enemy of my enemy is my friend.? On the other hand, in a transparent democracy, we expect a full accounting of the circumstances leading up to a tragic event like 9/11. The 9/11 Commission was supposed to provide exactly that.

State Secrets

Sibel has famously been dubbed the most gagged woman in America, having the State Secrets Privilege imposed on her twice. Her 3.5 hour testimony to the 9/11 Commission has been entirely suppressed, reduced to a single footnote which refers readers to her classified testimony.

In the interview, she says that the information that was classified in her case specifically identifies that the US was using Bin Laden and the Taliban in Central Asia, including Xinjiang. In the interview, Sibel reiterates that when invoking the gag orders, the US government claims that it is protecting ? ?sensitive diplomatic relations,? protecting Turkey, protecting Israel, protecting Pakistan, protecting Saudi Arabia?? This is no doubt partially true, but it is also true that they are protecting themselves too, and it is a crime in the US to use classification and secrecy to cover up crimes.

As Sibel says in the interview:

I have information about things that our government has lied to us about? those things can be proven as lies, very easily, based on the information they classified in my case, because we did carry very intimate relationship with these people, and it involves Central Asia, all the way up to September 11.

Summary

The bombshell here is obviously that certain people in the US were using Bin Laden up to September 11, 2001.

It is important to understand why: the US outsourced terror operations to al Qaeda and the Taliban for many years, promoting the Islamization of Central Asia in an attempt to personally profit off military sales as well as oil and gas concessions.

The silence by the US government on these matters is deafening. So, too, is the blowback.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:30 PM   #2
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:33 PM   #3
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So you mean Bill "Suck my Cock" Clinton is responsible for 9/11?
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:34 PM   #4
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Bin Laden was also behind the faked US moon landing.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:35 PM   #5
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Sounds a little to conspiracy thoery to me but then again wouldnt shock me... As what really goes on is never told to the public and if it did people couldn't handle the truth one way or another on how the world really works.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:37 PM   #6
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America gives money to terrorist organizations - rrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhttt on partners.
Question is will the 'illuminati' get their New World Order????

nano thermite clearly found in the dust of the twin towers = controlled demolition

I think people are still fast asleep though, they just can't accept reality. we ALL got bummed on 9/11 and it hurt.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:00 PM   #8
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I don't believe it, you're probably quoting some fringe mainstream media site that hates America just like all the liberals. Those who are in positions of power in America will never get in bed with evil people.

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This was well known at the time of the attack although I couldn't say if he worked with us up to the attack or not. It was one of the things that irritated people about the whole thing. It raises interesting questions.

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She's did all this while only working for the FBI for just 2 years...Sept 2001-March 2002
and she's from Iran...WOW...I am impressed....not

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I wouldn't be surprised. The US and Bin Laden were quite friendly during the Russian war in Afghanistan during the 80's.
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Question is will the 'illuminati' get their New World Order????

nano thermite clearly found in the dust of the twin towers = controlled demolition

I think people are still fast asleep though, they just can't accept reality. we ALL got bummed on 9/11 and it hurt.
You know there are medications which can help people like you. Your inability to to think coherently (as painfully demonstrated by your disjointed ramblings) is likely caused by an extremely short attention span. My first recommendation would be to cut down on your marijuana intake. You likely already have too much brain damage to ever function normally but if you stop damaging yourself you might be able to achieve some amount of independence and perhaps even move out of your parents basement. Best of luck.
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Everyone knew that the second it came out that the bin Laden's that were in the U.S. that day were flown out of the country at a time that no civilian flights were allowed to take place.

I typically do not believe in conspiracy theories, but 9/11 has never sat comfortably with me. Eight years later and I still don't know what to make of it.

What I do know is that anybody that thinks the intelligence agencies and/or some military contractors *couldn't* pull something like that off are fooling themselves.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds

You might be impressed more often if you learned to read.

It says she is Turkish-American and lived for a while in Iran while a child.
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Her full deposition has leaked now, you can watch the videos here:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7374

I doubt you will though, because they are hours long and most of you will automatically assume that she is lying anyways. Idiots.
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Remember, Osama is a rouge family bin Laden family member! It is no secret that the Bush's are business partners with them. We are, however, supposed to believe that Osama is the black sheep in the family.

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Who is funding the Afghan Taliban? You don’t want to know

http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009...-want-to-know/
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While I'm not sure I believe the entire story, because I think there is a lot of truth mixed in with lies. It is however no big secret we worked with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Hell Operation Cyclone was the official name and they made a movie about it with Tom Hanks for Christ sake called Charlie Wilson's War, but of course the movie says nothing of Bin Laden as he really wasn't a key figure other than funding and fighting back then.

If we successfully used them to beat the Soviets in Afghan then why would we also not used them else where if possible? However I don't think it's too the degree as this article states.

One thing is clear, even while George Bush Jr was Governor of Texas he was trying to make a deal with the Taliban for the Oil/Gas Pipeline. The thing is I don't believe we dealt directly with Bin Laden as he wasn't a major power figure at that time.

It's also quite possible that our dealings there doing this sort of thing is why he decided to target the US in the first place. Maybe he didn't like it that the US was using the Mujahid for our own gain.

So do I believe we worked with the Taliban insurgents well after the soviet occupation? Of course, however I don't think we worked closely with bin Laden. I think we created the problem with bin Laden as a result of our meddling in the region.
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