iPorn Scam Revealed: User Numbers are a fraud--Francis Koenig ripping off advertisers - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

D-Money · 09-04-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Dayumn , you're good DWB, here is your prize

Don't forget the $8,000 contract in post cream pied model shoots!

Don Pueblo · 09-04-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money

Don't forget the $8,000 contract in post cream pied model shoots!

like seriously who would fucking purposely cream pie a porn model on purpose?
don't people worry about getting one of them knocked up?
yuck.

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 01:32 PM

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

JFK · 09-04-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

Too bad

Screaming · 09-04-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

ouch. some big names in that list.

MaDalton · 09-04-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

ok, and who's the one who fucked over his own company by accepting the bribe?

JFK · 09-04-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

ok, and who's the one who fucked over his own company by accepting the bribe?

wonder if its in the list above ?

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

wonder if its in the list above ?

no..not in that list, but I thnk he has plenty of problems of his own with his boss right now and does not need any public exposure here.

$tandaman · 09-04-2009, 02:27 PM

I guess Mike Weiss got what he deserved. Karma is a bitch.

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

I guess Mike Weiss got what he deserved. Karma is a bitch.

Francis is the one that has to deal with Karma...not Mike. And it's that 'insider' at the Company that Francis fucked over is the one that has to deal with his own boss...not Mike.

JFK · 09-04-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

no..not in that list, but I thnk he has plenty of problems of his own with his boss right now and does not need any public exposure here.

K tx, good to know that the company is aware of the problem

Trixxxia · 09-04-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

Francis is the one that has to deal with Karma...not Mike. And it's that 'insider' at the Company that Francis fucked over is the one that has to deal with his own boss...not Mike.

My question is, why is that person still working with that company if they obviously acted against the best interests of the company?

tiger · 09-04-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

The movie rights to the iPorn story are worth way more than company.

Think of this as a reality series. If they had someone following them around with cameras from the start. Would be an amazing show.

Tasty1 · 09-04-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA

I met the guy at the Miami show and smelled a scandal within minutes. The site looks like it runs on a $300 script. The movie rights for this story is worth more than the advertising you could buy on the site.

I don't now much about iPorn, but isn't it MediaXXXscript<dot>com they are using.
i just bought that to try out (only 99 dollars). I am for 99% sure it is MediaXXXscript or adultvideoscript<dot>com (same script)

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 03:52 PM

I?ve been told that the CFO at iPorn was working overtime yesterday shredding document after document. SEC?are you listening?

wargames · 09-04-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Really? So the same scam reackaged and polished up amazes you? Eyes Wide Open man.... seriously.

It amazes me people keep falling for it. Must i clearly outline what i mean on gfy every time i post something ???

TheAmericanCannibal · 09-04-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

Here is a partial list of iPorn advertisers that apparently fell for Francis? iPorn/Alexa scam:

Lonely Wife Hookup, Video Secrets, Live Jasmine, Badoink, Grand Slam Media, Kink.com, Redlight, Adam & Eve, Night Invasion, Horny Matches, Everything Butt, Aneros and others.

hahahaha redlight.
I bet they were sending to their domain, Iporns.com which is almost as useless.
tough break

Porno Dan · 09-04-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

I?ve been told that the CFO at iPorn was working overtime yesterday shredding document after document. SEC?are you listening?

I know Francis, and one thing is for sure; he is going to claim it's not his fault, and blame everything on someone else.

Iscari0t · 09-04-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

I?ve been told that the CFO at iPorn was working overtime yesterday shredding document after document. SEC?are you listening?

Do they have a CFO? I hear they keep firing them / having them quit.

Iscari0t · 09-04-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

I know Francis, and one thing is for sure; he is going to claim it's not his fault, and blame everything on someone else.

True, but that only goes so far if people have copies of email.

ThumbLord · 09-04-2009, 04:35 PM

the list is not that amazing to be honest.
I even do not feel sorry for them to be frank

PantiesDropped · 09-04-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Anyone on here have any direct personal experience with them?

I had their brand new sales rep contact me about 5 times in 3 days. He was selling adspace, I had to school him on a bunch of things. From what does SEM stand for B2B. At one point during the conversation I said, "Our website is for adult webmaster/affiliates/blogger etc, you know B2B. There's not much ROI advertising with you guys" He goes to say, "Well we're a business, we have a business license and-all and you're a business; so this would be a business to business deal"

I'm not a genius here, nor am I some well know person in the industry. However, after chatting with him I felt like GOD-all-mighty and a freaking genius!!! Must be really hard times if iPorn can't take the time to educate their sale team.

epitome · 09-04-2009, 04:50 PM

Too bad camgirls spent $350k on camgirls.com ... in a few months he probably could have bought iporn.com for half of that. If he can make a billion off of the short name camgirls.com, he could make a trillion off the short name of iporn.com! Someone told me that you can make an extra hundred million dollars for ever letter you shave off a domain. Is that true?

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 06:15 PM

This reminds me of a famous line in Robert Altman's movie ?The Player.? ?In Hollywood, all rumors are true.?

Mohawk Steve · 09-04-2009, 07:02 PM

Francis have you up in the G5 playa. Big dick playaaaaa

G5 playaaaaa

JustDaveXxx · 09-04-2009, 07:13 PM

Got my popcorn. This is a great read. Keep up the good work you GFY sleuths. lol

MaDalton · 09-04-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve

Francis have you up in the G5 playa. Big dick playaaaaa

G5 playaaaaa

ahahaha - just finished that movie an hour ago

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 07:55 PM

This thread has it all so far?sex?greed?drugs. All we need is a little rock n roll. Music maestro!

JFK · 09-04-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

This thread has it all so far…sex…greed…drugs. All we need is a little rock n roll. Music maestro!

lets hear "Money"

pornlaw · 09-04-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve

Francis have you up in the G5 playa. Big dick playaaaaa

G5 playaaaaa

Thats too funny.... Nice work.

Wizard21 · 09-04-2009, 11:01 PM

more to post over the weekend....stay tuned!

epitome · 09-04-2009, 11:33 PM

This. Thread. Delivers.

Who needs TV when they have GFY?

JimmiDean · 09-05-2009, 03:46 AM

Buuuumparoonoo

Wizard21 · 09-05-2009, 10:33 AM

seems appropriate here:

"In a Time of Universal Deceit TELLING THE TRUTH IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT"

Tjeezers · 09-05-2009, 11:08 AM

wanna get fucked, go work in the adult industry

QuaWee · 09-05-2009, 02:34 PM

Who were the brokers?

Agent 488 · 09-05-2009, 02:36 PM

sounds like the business plan of thousands of mainstream internet business actually.

pr0 · 09-05-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan

Think I was contacted by the same rep lol. I offered the same deal, lets try this out on an affiliate basis for a week if it works out we'll buy. Of course there was no way they would do that

I've never met someone straight selling traffic that was willing to send traffic on an "affiliate basis".

It seems to me their business model is to only sell traffic. Period. No matter who it is.

I'm not going to say that all traffic brokers are bull shit.....But i think they know they will always make more $ selling it directly to you, period.

If it worked the other way, why would anyone sell ad spots at all? Why not send it as an affiliate & make top dollar every time....i dunno

baddog · 09-05-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

no..not in that list, but I thnk he has plenty of problems of his own with his boss right now and does not need any public exposure here.

Yeah, but if he did it to one guy he would most certainly do it to another. I know you wouldn't want that on your conscience.

Wizard21 · 09-05-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I've never met someone straight selling traffic that was willing to send traffic on an "affiliate basis".

In the case of the iPorn scam, it was not the traffic brokers sending traffic directly to the advertisers and affiliate banners, they were sending it to a n iPorn "rotation landing page" that Francis had one of the techs create with a script that would then forward it to the advertisers. The advertisers that were screaming the loudest about not getting enough hits would get multiple rotations.

It is hard to imagine that any of the traffic brokers in the biz would be willing participants in this fraud.

Wizard21 · 09-05-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Yeah, but if he did it to one guy he would most certainly do it to another. I know you wouldn't want that on your conscience.

Very true. If an employee is going to sell you out for one bribe, then its a high probability that he's done it before and willing to do it again. Rest assurred, the company was told which employee sold them out and it will be up to them if they take any action. If it was my company, just firing the bastard would not be nearly enough punishment.

JFK · 09-05-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard21

Very true. If an employee is going to sell you out for one bribe, then its a high probability that he's done it before and willing to do it again. Rest assurred, the company was told which employee sold them out and it will be up to them if they take any action. If it was my company, just firing the bastard would not be nearly enough punishment.

just firing the bastard would not be nearly enough punishment.[/QUOTE] Total agreement

fatfoo · 09-05-2009, 08:05 PM

he is telling advertisers that iPorn has 500,000 unique users per day (the real number is 8K/day)

- That's not good! what a fraud.

Anthony · 09-06-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Got my popcorn. This is a great read. Keep up the good work you GFY sleuths. lol

You gotta tell the breakfast story. That alone was enough to make me go, WTF? You guys are Ballers?

mule · 09-06-2009, 01:51 AM

LOL I dunno what's funnier: people STILL doing business with Francis Koenig, or people crying about being ripped off by him. It's like sitting on a snake and being surprised when you get your ass bitten.

JimmiDean · 09-06-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You gotta tell the breakfast story. That alone was enough to make me go, WTF? You guys are Ballers?

Oh please do tell

shimmy2 · 09-06-2009, 06:30 AM

ive only been to about 6 conventions so far but im beginning to notice a pattern on summer internext event sponsors. does something like this happen every year

Wizard21 · 09-06-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Abby-SiN20

I had their brand new sales rep contact me about 5 times in 3 days. He was selling adspace, I had to school him on a bunch of things....Must be really hard times if iPorn can't take the time to educate their sale team.

With the exception of iPorn's new VP Sales hired in June, these days Francis purposely hires sales people that are not from the adult industry. Obviously anyone from the industry would catch onto this scam early on and refuse to participate. In fact, all the earlier industry people that worked at AdultVest and iPorn have 'left the building' never to return. Even the new non-industry sales people leave once they truly understand what is going on. Francis purposely keeps them in the dark so he can feed lies to them.

It is difficult to train someone when the foundation of your sales efforts are based on a scam. But Francis does incent his salespeople that reach his scam quota with promises of free trips "around the world" or to "Berlin" or "Amsterdam" or "Miami." Unfortunatley for the salespeople -- who are as much victims as the advertisers they sell to -- the only ones taking trips at iPorn these days are Francis, his new VP Sales and his new CFO (who has learned how to do the books the Koenig way).

At the very least, he should send postcards to the advertisers and investors thanking them for his trips.

JustDaveXxx · 09-06-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You gotta tell the breakfast story. That alone was enough to make me go, WTF? You guys are Ballers?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That was very funny!!!

About 12 or so of us are at the breakfast spot inside the hard rock. Me, Anthony and Porno Dan were the only non IPORN employees there. Then the bill comes. lol

Anthony goes to pull out his wallet and i push it down and tell him to watch. Everyone there including Francis and all of his employees including his vice president are scrambling to grab there wallets. Porno Dan left to shoot a scene ten minutes earlier. Me and Anthony are laughing at all of these guys pulling out ones, fives and quarters.

Me and Anthony are pissing on ourselves, because this went on for 10+ minutes. Meanwhile i already slipped the waitress $200 bucks to pay the bill.

Watching all of these IPORN people pull out pocket lint and pocket change because the baller boss was too cheap to take care of his employees was too funny!! Was waiting for Francis to do the right thing, because he was supposedly the head Baller, never happened. Was so entertaining, it was worth the $200.

JFK · 09-06-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That was very funny!!!

About 12 or so of us are at the breakfast spot inside the hard rock. Me, Anthony and Porno Dan were the only non IPORN employees there. Then the bill comes. lol

Anthony goes to pull out his wallet and i push it down and tell him to watch. Everyone there including Francis and all of his employees including his vice president are scrambling to grab there wallets. Porno Dan left to shoot a scene ten minutes earlier. Me and Anthony are laughing at all of these guys pulling out ones, fives and quarters.

Me and Anthony are pissing on ourselves, because this went on for 10+ minutes. Meanwhile i already slipped the waitress $200 bucks to pay the bill.

Watching all of these IPORN people pull out pocket lint and pocket change because the baller boss was too cheap to take care of his employees was too funny!! Was waiting for Francis to do the right thing, because he was supposedly the head Baller, never happened. Was so entertaining, it was worth the $200.

interesting

09-04-2009, 01:32 PM	#103
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Wizard21 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21	iPorn Reacts ? CFO seen shredding docs all day I?ve been told that the CFO at iPorn was working overtime yesterday shredding document after document. SEC?are you listening?

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Wizard21 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21	The Player This reminds me of a famous line in Robert Altman's movie ?The Player.? ?In Hollywood, all rumors are true.?

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09-04-2009, 07:55 PM	#128
Wizard21 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21	Ripped From The Headlines?. This thread has it all so far?sex?greed?drugs. All we need is a little rock n roll. Music maestro!

09-04-2009, 11:01 PM	#131
Wizard21 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21	more to post over the weekend....stay tuned!

09-04-2009, 11:33 PM	#132
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	This. Thread. Delivers. Who needs TV when they have GFY?

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09-05-2009, 10:33 AM	#134
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09-06-2009, 01:51 AM	#145
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