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FreeHugeMovies · 12-09-2009, 06:21 PM

When it comes to social networking sites. What's the given value for a registered user?

If anyone can give me any type of links or information on this I would appreciate it.

Say I wanted to buy Myspace.com How does one determine the value? I think when Myspace was purchased, it was given a value per registered user.

MaDalton · 12-09-2009, 07:05 PM

i dont know - i just know they are insanely overrated since none of them makes any real profit

woj · 12-09-2009, 07:49 PM

It should be valued same way as any other business, by how much $$ it makes, using anything else is just an attempt to find sucker to overpay what the business is really worth...

FreeHugeMovies · 12-09-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

It should be valued same way as any other business, by how much $$ it makes, using anything else is just an attempt to find sucker to overpay what the business is really worth...

Agreed but that isn't the case. There is a value per profile.

gandalfuy · 12-09-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Agreed but that isn't the case. There is a value per profile.

is there?

Semi-Retired-Dave · 12-09-2009, 08:13 PM

Years ago, each register user was worth about $120.00. Not sure how much of that has changed now.

FreeHugeMovies · 12-09-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Years ago, each register user was worth about $120.00. Not sure how much of that has changed now.

For myspace?

DaddyHalbucks · 12-09-2009, 08:51 PM

$10 billion divided by 200 million users = $50 per user.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_207792.html

However, I doubt a small social networking site has the same valuation metrics as a Facebook.

If Facebook is worth $50 per user, it doesn't mean your site is worth the same. They have market leadership. But, it provides a range. I am guessing a small site is worth $10-15 per user.

FreeHugeMovies · 12-09-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

$10 billion divided by 200 million users = $50 per user.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_207792.html

However, I doubt a small social networking site has the same valuation metrics as a Facebook.

If Facebook is worth $50 per user, it doesn't mean your site is worth the same. They have market leadership. But, it provides a range. I am guessing a small site is worth $10-15 per user.

Great post. Lets here some others.

srhcom · 12-09-2009, 09:57 PM

I don't know if you should assign a per user value. Why would social networking be different than a normal site, where you take around a year of profit, and that's the site's value on the market?

FreeHugeMovies · 12-09-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by srhcom

I don't know if you should assign a per user value. Why would social networking be different than a normal site, where you take around a year of profit, and that's the site's value on the market?

I'm pretty sure FB operates at a loss but their members are worth money. This is really the only way to give a value to a site that does not make a profit.

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BradM · 12-10-2009, 03:59 PM

$35 per user. Thread closed.

baddog · 12-10-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i dont know - i just know they are insanely overrated since none of them makes any real profit

MetaMan · 12-10-2009, 04:06 PM

social networking traffic is useless do not bother.

MetaMan · 12-10-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

I'm pretty sure FB operates at a loss but their members are worth money. This is really the only way to give a value to a site that does not make a profit.

yes facebook operates at a huge loss. same with youtube and tube porn sites.

Jdoughs · 12-10-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by srhcom

I don't know if you should assign a per user value. Why would social networking be different than a normal site, where you take around a year of profit, and that's the site's value on the market?

Because EYEBALLS are worth money. Real unique views and users means advertising money and possibilities.

Youtube is a great example. Many ask why would google pay so much money to own that site, and not make anything substantial off it. If we took Youtubes expenses, and profits to set a value on it, well we wouldn't even come close to what its really worth.

They have the platform to lay out ANYTHING they want to 60-70 MILLION unique viewers over the period of a couple days. This is about more then just 'profits' this is market dominance and control at its finest.

How much would one of the biggest and fastest growing companies in the world pay for such exposure (even if it cost them a million bucks loss a day)? Only about $1.65 billion.

CarlosTheGaucho · 12-10-2009, 04:35 PM

Only a community very targeted towards something you can offer would have a real value..

General social networking traffic = mixture of totally unproductive surfers who are mainly interested in getting in touch with their own bullshit.

comeplay · 12-10-2009, 05:21 PM

Why do you think google wants to own a huge website that runs at a loss?

To cancel out some of the shit ton of money they are making from other parts of the company.

Agent 488 · 12-10-2009, 05:40 PM

so a shopkeeper from zimbabwe is worth the same as a brain surgeon from new york?

at lot of these responses are down right wrong.

FreeHugeMovies · 12-11-2009, 06:12 PM

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FreeHugeMovies · 12-11-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by comeplay

Why do you think google wants to own a huge website that runs at a loss?

To cancel out some of the shit ton of money they are making from other parts of the company.

So you are telling me businesses are looking for ways to LOSE money? That's such a silly comment. It has value to the google brand.

Cyber Fucker · 12-11-2009, 06:18 PM

I would say that each network and each user has different values. Some may be worthless and some may be priceless... blah blah... but I am probably not the one of smart GFY guys... so...

ArsewithClass · 12-11-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

When it comes to social networking sites. What's the given value for a registered user?

If anyone can give me any type of links or information on this I would appreciate it.

Say I wanted to buy Myspace.com How does one determine the value? I think when Myspace was purchased, it was given a value per registered user.

Are you having a spliff??

You want to buy myspace???

If you are that rich then buy all my sites, content and everything for half a million & I may think about it! I shall have to let all my members and surfers know first but fuck me!

Its like worth a few million!!!

You wouldnt be here if you were thinking seriously about shit like that! What a fucking thread!

Can I buy Playboy!?

FreeHugeMovies · 12-12-2009, 10:23 PM

Dumb post, next

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Are you having a spliff??

You want to buy myspace???

If you are that rich then buy all my sites, content and everything for half a million & I may think about it! I shall have to let all my members and surfers know first but fuck me!

Its like worth a few million!!!

You wouldnt be here if you were thinking seriously about shit like that! What a fucking thread!

Can I buy Playboy!?

tiger · 12-13-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Because EYEBALLS are worth money. Real unique views and users means advertising money and possibilities.

Youtube is a great example. Many ask why would google pay so much money to own that site, and not make anything substantial off it. If we took Youtubes expenses, and profits to set a value on it, well we wouldn't even come close to what its really worth.

They have the platform to lay out ANYTHING they want to 60-70 MILLION unique viewers over the period of a couple days. This is about more then just 'profits' this is market dominance and control at its finest.

How much would one of the biggest and fastest growing companies in the world pay for such exposure (even if it cost them a million bucks loss a day)? Only about $1.65 billion.

True but I would bet the real value is in the data. Google is all about gathering data. Gathering surfing and searching data on 70 million per day is worth every penny for them + you can bet w/e they pay on bandwidth is pennies compared to what any of us pay.

Google's goal is gathering information. Everything they do, free wi-fi, free dns, browser, apps everything is all aimed at gathering more data.

Once traffic was king, once content was king, now data is king.

xenigo · 12-13-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tiger

True but I would bet the real value is in the data. Google is all about gathering data. Gathering surfing and searching data on 70 million per day is worth every penny for them + you can bet w/e they pay on bandwidth is pennies compared to what any of us pay.

Google's goal is gathering information. Everything they do, free wi-fi, free dns, browser, apps everything is all aimed at gathering more data.

Once traffic was king, once content was king, now data is king.

Except traffic was never king. Content was and will always be king. Data and traffic is the biproduct of content.

Agent 488 · 12-13-2009, 01:20 AM

just googling found this:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/23...cial-networks/

"I believe an effective way to value a particular user is based on the average Internet advertising spend per person in the country they live in."

oddly similar to what i wrote above.

WankWorld · 12-13-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

It should be valued same way as any other business, by how much $$ it makes, using anything else is just an attempt to find sucker to overpay what the business is really worth...

I agree with this.

xmas13 · 12-13-2009, 01:51 AM

Why don't you ask your pal Rupert Murdoch?

BillyHoe · 12-13-2009, 02:01 AM

I would guess that your price per profile can only be determined once you can figure out what the bookmark or returning visiting rate of the profiles are. Having 500,000 profiles is great, but if they only return once a year what's the point.
Sites like Facebook and myspace make money, don't kid yourself. However they didn't make their money over night. They have very valuable information that I'm convinced they either sell, lease, use in some sort of product targeting way.
They have your location,sex,email address, and age. So with just that info alone, they can determine things like, if you're a 38 yr old female with two kids, chances are you're a bit over weight and they can get you on some sort of weight loss product. If you're a single 33 yr old male they'll sell you on dating sites, or some type of cheap fitness plan.
These are just some of the basic things they can target, imagine what a trained mainstream marketing firm can come up with, but it all relies on the pattern of the surfer. Find that out and you'll find out what they're worth.

Hope that helps.

GTS Mark · 12-13-2009, 10:30 AM

I am sure there are much smarter guys than us porn peddlers that figure this stuff out haha ;-)

madawgz · 12-13-2009, 01:39 PM

they make money selling your information to 3rd party companies duh!

12-09-2009, 06:21 PM	#1
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srhcom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 87	I don't know if you should assign a per user value. Why would social networking be different than a normal site, where you take around a year of profit, and that's the site's value on the market?

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Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	I would say that each network and each user has different values. Some may be worthless and some may be priceless... blah blah... but I am probably not the one of smart GFY guys... so... __________________

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	just googling found this: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/23...cial-networks/ "I believe an effective way to value a particular user is based on the average Internet advertising spend per person in the country they live in." oddly similar to what i wrote above.

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BillyHoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vaudreuil/Montreal Posts: 2,214	I would guess that your price per profile can only be determined once you can figure out what the bookmark or returning visiting rate of the profiles are. Having 500,000 profiles is great, but if they only return once a year what's the point. Sites like Facebook and myspace make money, don't kid yourself. However they didn't make their money over night. They have very valuable information that I'm convinced they either sell, lease, use in some sort of product targeting way. They have your location,sex,email address, and age. So with just that info alone, they can determine things like, if you're a 38 yr old female with two kids, chances are you're a bit over weight and they can get you on some sort of weight loss product. If you're a single 33 yr old male they'll sell you on dating sites, or some type of cheap fitness plan. These are just some of the basic things they can target, imagine what a trained mainstream marketing firm can come up with, but it all relies on the pattern of the surfer. Find that out and you'll find out what they're worth. Hope that helps. __________________ True Amateur Sites!! ICQ:124399549

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