will76

Neither does selling it to someone. You can't control the information once it leaves your mouth. Very Very few people are going to pay big bucks for something until they know what they are buying, they try it out etc... So it's a rock and hard place. I've thought about selling everything in the past for a huge lump sum to 1 person. But it just isn't possible. No one is going to spend major money and have no idea what they are buying. If I tell them what they are buying then they don't need to buy it any more.

Sure there is fine details you can hold back, the person would have to do trial and error, but it is a lot cheaper for them to hire a staff of programmers and reverse engineer what you did then paying you a lot of money for it. If you selling a great money making idea for not a lot of money then you are crazy. The more people you sell to, the more crazy you are. For each person you sell to multiple that x 10 for new competition you will have. How much money you going to make from selling the info to 5 people? Now how much money you going to make if you have 100 new people doing what doing?

How can you guarantee that you will make "residual income" from them once you teach them how to do it. You have no control over them once you tell them.

I've been there. It doesn't work any way you cut it. Keep doing your thing and making money from it. It's the best way to go. Only way you would benefit from selling methods that make you a lot of money is if you are no longer making money from it or if you are walking away from it all anyway so you don't care.

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HandballJim

Will, I think if you read his posts again he does have a sure method and is willing to sell/share it but also wants you to become his webmaster referral in which he not only gets paid up front for the method but will make money from your sales in the future. he tells the story that his sales were able to buy his mentor a Lexus.

I don't doubt this guy at all since a sponsor jumped in and vouched for him, but I think you would need a staff of people to make that kind of money from youtube.

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will76

All I am saying is if he is doing as well as he says then it is not in HIS best interest to teach other people how to do it for a small sum of money.

I understand the wm referral part.

I've helped people in the past (not traffic methods but everything else) made them custom promos, helped them convert their traffic better. You know how hard it is for someone to go make a new account and you no longer get credit for the wm referrals from them. I've had that happen more than a few times. You would never get any traffic source / methods out of me unless you put a gun to my head. People are greedy, they will refer themselves or one of their buddies as soon as they leach all of the info out of you. They will also tell 10 of their friends who will refer them, NOT YOU... All it does it create competition and kills your traffic source. It happens. Not to mention the sponsors these days that are shit canning wm referrals left and right because they change their tos.

Trust me. I've thought about this one before, selling traffic sources, trying to help people. There is no way it plays out good for the person who is selling the information. Unless you get a LOT of money and you get out.


BTW, If anyone wants to give me a million dollars I will teach them how I have made over 120,000 credit card joins over the last 10 years. Still making good money just not as good as 3-4 years ago. I wont compete against you and wont share the info with anyone else. I want cash in hand before I tell you what it is all about and hand over source codes. (let's see how many replies i get lol).

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

The thing with methods like this is that they hold a shelf life. While one way to look at is that you can rape it as long as you can for yourself, there IS another option. Get some extra hands working for you. If you're doing it, odds are somebody else is already doing it too, or well on their way to doing it. Youtube can change their shit at absolutely any moment and send your whole program spinning upside down and out of control, long before anyone saturates the method. You can look at this as a means to earn $150k/month for as long as you can make it work for yourself. Or you can pick a group of people you believe can excel at it, help them excel at it, and make yourself more than you would have in the first place. Say he trains 10 people to train and execute the method, they each earn $100k/month, and his earnings cut into for $50K/month, if he's getting a 10% tier 2 commission on his referrals, he's still doing $200k/month now. $50k/k above what he would have normally. And youtube has fucking enormous traffic, who's to say his referrals will cut into his own sales at all?

It's a gamble, but really going either way is. You just gotta roll the dice one way or the other. It happens...

Not every method sold boils down to a $15 eBook...

HandballJim

yeah well it seems nothing is a sure thing anymore, it seems he is looking for people who will be dedicated to him...so if they get canned they will just sign up to another sponsor with his wm reff code...and like he said webmasters who are hungry.

I agree it does not make sense to teach people your trade secrets, I have trained a few young guys on how to play Handball...and now they beat my ass on the court.

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will76

he is trying to find people on GFY that he doesn't even know. Now how much can you trust someone that you don't know that replied to your post on a message board ?

not that they will get canned, that they will, on purpose, stop using that account and make a new one so the wm referral money can go to one of their friends or they will refer themselves.


hire more staff / out sourced workers if you aren't maximizing it. I have a staff working for me, each person does a different part, they don't know each other and they don't know how to do the other parts. I keep as much information away from people as possible.

Coming to GFY and making a post looking for people you don't know, and you expect to be able to trust them? Everything you are saying it based on these people not telling anyone what you taught them, and that they would actually keep referring you.

The people who make out are the ones that get the free ride as long as they can. And some of them will actually be able to evolve. They never knew about your traffic source before, you showed them there was money there and how to do it, they screw you, tell 10 of their buddies who tell 10 more, youtube changes and a few of them will be smart enough to change with it.

Don't take my word for it, I don't know what I am talking about. If the OP starts telling everyone what he is doing, I hope he comes back and tells us how that worked out of HIM. For the people he tells it too, lol sure they going to do good especially if they got the info for cheap.

Some of you guys just really don't get it and just don't think these things through logically.

hell i don't even advertise on youtube, but this post alone is making me think about looking into and I am one of the people that can figure it out and make it work.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

This argument would make some sense if Youtube was some secret traffic source, but it's not

The competition is coming, and it's coming up fast. Whatever he is doing now, someone is going to find out, and find out soon, if they haven't already. It's a countdown starting now to when the method ends, or becomes saturated. There are literally thousands of blackhatters right now trying to find a way to rape Youtube again. They're going to find it sooner or later, and then the floodgates are open. Put a pricetag on the method that assures you get only serious people who have the power to fully execute the method, get the referrals, and work with them. Maybe just maybe he'll get get some people working with him that make him more money in the end than he would have on his own. Partnerships can be powerful, and perhaps he looks at this as an investment opportunity.

I'm pretty positive he knows what he's doing, and has weighed his options. Not one of us knows what his goals are, knows what he aims to achieve here, or how he intends to direct his business. Who says he even gives a shit about his Youtube enterprise continuing on? Or that it's his only stream of income? I'm sure someone pulling that type of volume in sales has considered his options, and I'm more than positive that the first option considered was "keep it to yourself"...

I know what you're saying and all, but I think you're the one being a little short sighted here at the same time. It's the greedy way to look at it, and honestly probably the way I'd approach it myself, but I'll repeat what I said earlier. I've always been one to say "if you find something profitable keep it to yourself" myself too. However, it isn't the ONLY option, and it isn't always the best option either.

Who knows, maybe it'll blow up in his face and he'll regret it. Maybe the buyer's and partners will get shafted and they'll go on to regret it. Maybe he'll pick up a couple serious partners willing to work with him and everyone can be profitable.

It's funny how helping someone can come back tenfold for you in the future sometimes.

Make a bet and roll those dice. It could go either way.

will76

i'm betting you are one that is hoping to get info from him about this. And I am one telling you from the prospective of the person with info, who has shared it with people and gotten burned in the past.

I was stupid and thought along the lines of what you posted when i first started out back in 99/00. I told a couple FRIENDS how i was making money, helped set them up, and I took a small cut, they were doing very little work and making a couple thousand a week. They got greedy and started competeing with me. I caught them, cut them off and they lingered around a couple years until they couldn't keep up with the changes. Been there, done that. I am talking from first hand experiences. The op can obviously do what ever he wants, if he shares the info, there is a HIGH probability it will not turn out the way he wanted and cost him more money in the long run. I'm not being short sighted, i just learn from my mistakes and I look at all the pros and cons, and then reality of what happens more often than not in these situations. No point in repeating myself over and over, believe it or not.

While he might be making a ton of money still. If I had to bet I would say his income is declining, or he wants out really bad. You just don't mess with a traffic source that makes you hundreds of thousands of dollars, you don't take the chance sharing that info in the hopes for making some wm referrals lmfao. You don't make the bet and roll the dice on that kind of income source.

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