2257 records on exotic ilands and other unproven addresses? - GoFuckYourself.com

curiousdog · 03-23-2010, 04:11 AM

http://www.youngcourtesans.com/2257.html
The Custodian of Records for this Website is:
Meniss LTD
Melville Hall 12
Roseau, Dominica

Is this any good? I know these guys probably are safely somehwere in Russia, and don't even need 2257 records.

But if you host some of their galleries, or just one single picture on your server, you could be toast?

I try to host only non-sexually explicit photos of such sites, but I guess if they are slightly sexually suggestive that is already a problem!? I also make sure there is a watermark showing the original site.

Also if they close down the original site with the 2257 link, but the photo stays on my server, I could be in trouble!?

pornlaw · 03-23-2010, 06:25 AM

If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content.

The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference.

TheDA · 03-23-2010, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content.

The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference.

Unless you are not in the US and 2257 means nothing right?

Quagmire · 03-23-2010, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Unless you are not in the US and 2257 means nothing right?

Unless you plan to never travel to the US.

Jim_Gunn · 03-23-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content.

The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference.

It should be noted that all the many tens of thousands of blogs, free sites, tube sites, forums and other sites (whether using sponsor content with permission or not) are essentially just completely ignoring this and getting away with it.

curiousdog · 03-23-2010, 09:14 AM

still leaves open the address question: for someone subject to 2257 with some ties to US, (like US server), an adress in Finland, St. Kitts, or other exotic places probably would NOT qualify. do I see this correctly? any documentary evidence for the location requirement?

I still prefer to be located in the US, because in many countries like Germany one gets in trouble just for LINKING. One is responsible for the content of the sites one LINKS to. Ridiculous.

Like the Brazilian webmaster who got arrested for linking to legit US Teen sites with 2057 documentation.

The US at least has legal security

andrej_NDC · 03-23-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by curiousdog

Like the Brazilian webmaster who got arrested for linking to legit US Teen sites with 2057 documentation.

I do not think that ever happened...even if I read it on some media site, I wouldn't believe it. There is always more to such stories...

Zorgman · 03-23-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content.

The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference.

I know for a fact no sponsor in his right mind would give out 2257 release forms and docs of their models.

Thankfuly I can say I hotlink content.

fuzebox · 03-23-2010, 10:11 AM

I would like to point out that porn is illegal in China, and you will go to jail for being an adult webmaster there.

Agent 488 · 03-23-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content.

The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference.

create a 2257 safe for affiliates.

Ladyboy King · 03-23-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content.

The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference.

Exhibit A: This holds true unless you are a content thief. Then you get away with it. Steal all you want, doesn't matter if it's compliant or not. The hosting companies will host for you and some of the billing companies will process for you. No one cares. It's the wild west for porn these days, and until the "law" everyone speaks of is actually put to good use, nothing will change.

Exhibit B: Even though the USA wants to be the world police, US law only applies to US citizens. Of course, unless you are a terrorist, then they will snatch you while you sleep in your cave in the middle of Afghanistan, and hold you without charge, indefinitely. Regardless of who hosts where, the USA is simply not going to extradite foreign nationals so they can check their 2257 records. It's simply not going to happen. Ever. To take it a step further, they are not going to hassle US citizens living abroad over this, when there are 1000s and 1000s of sitting ducks right in their own back yard.

Exhibit C: Those living in the USA need to get in line and play by the rules, or you may get fucked up when you least expect it. Unless you're a content pirate.

03-23-2010, 04:11 AM	#1
curiousdog Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 81	2257 records on exotic ilands and other unproven addresses? http://www.youngcourtesans.com/2257.html The Custodian of Records for this Website is: Meniss LTD Melville Hall 12 Roseau, Dominica Is this any good? I know these guys probably are safely somehwere in Russia, and don't even need 2257 records. But if you host some of their galleries, or just one single picture on your server, you could be toast? I try to host only non-sexually explicit photos of such sites, but I guess if they are slightly sexually suggestive that is already a problem!? I also make sure there is a watermark showing the original site. Also if they close down the original site with the 2257 link, but the photo stays on my server, I could be in trouble!? __________________ Email sfm-gfy at 18adultreviews.com to make extra $$ from generic Viagra sales

03-23-2010, 06:25 AM	#2
pornlaw Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,791	If the photos/videos are on your server you need to have the docs and IDs as though it was your content. The law no longer cares about primary or secondary producers when it comes to who has to maintain the records. Both are now required to have the same docs and IDs. And a watermark isnt going to make a difference. __________________ Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com

03-23-2010, 09:14 AM	#6
curiousdog Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 81	still leaves open the address question: for someone subject to 2257 with some ties to US, (like US server), an adress in Finland, St. Kitts, or other exotic places probably would NOT qualify. do I see this correctly? any documentary evidence for the location requirement? I still prefer to be located in the US, because in many countries like Germany one gets in trouble just for LINKING. One is responsible for the content of the sites one LINKS to. Ridiculous. Like the Brazilian webmaster who got arrested for linking to legit US Teen sites with 2057 documentation. The US at least has legal security __________________ Email sfm-gfy at 18adultreviews.com to make extra $$ from generic Viagra sales Last edited by curiousdog; 03-23-2010 at 09:23 AM..

03-23-2010, 10:11 AM	#9
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 21,858	I would like to point out that porn is illegal in China, and you will go to jail for being an adult webmaster there.