WTF: Jane Burgess - why do you have Verotel club while doing CCBill affiliate program? - GoFuckYourself.com

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-11-2010, 11:28 PM

I was about to join you program when I saw this.

http://www.janeburgess.com/join.html

So, I will be sending my traffic here. What happens with Verotel joins?

I think that’s a shave, unless you have some king of link between ccbill and verotel.

Please explain.

Coup · 05-11-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Please explain.

she dumb as hell, hth

Barefootsies · 05-12-2010, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

So, I will be sending my traffic here. What happens with Verotel joins?

You'd be S.O.L. however, she has a back up processor and you can't fault her for that. However, sounds like she needs to add in NATS or something for full affiliate tracking and payouts.

Scotty.T · 05-12-2010, 04:16 AM

Oops, not good. It's not the only problem either, there are other traffic leaks.

candyflip · 05-12-2010, 05:30 AM

Did you check to see if she has a different tour set up just for affiliates? I know I have set my tours up like this in the past.

georgeyw · 05-12-2010, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by coup

she dumb as hell, hth

qft .....................

TheDA · 05-12-2010, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Did you check to see if she has a different tour set up just for affiliates? I know I have set my tours up like this in the past.

She doesn't appear to have a different tour.

candyflip · 05-12-2010, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

She doesn't appear to have a different tour.

I figured as much. Just wanted to throw that out there just to be sure.

Not that we needed much to verify that JaneB and whoever works on her site aren't the brightest of bulbs.

TeenCat · 05-12-2010, 06:22 AM

yes the ccb button have to be bigger. any i think people preffer ccbill so only few will choose vero instead of ccb. and vero will choose those who have problems with ccbill, and if there will be no vero button, there will be no sale. so, i dont care much. i think there are much bigger problems with sponsors than this

CIVMatt · 05-12-2010, 07:12 AM

I'm still amazed anyone still uses vero for anything

SmokeyTheBear · 05-12-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

yes the ccb button have to be bigger. any i think people preffer ccbill so only few will choose vero instead of ccb. and vero will choose those who have problems with ccbill, and if there will be no vero button, there will be no sale. so, i dont care much. i think there are much bigger problems with sponsors than this

kind of hard to "guess" how big of an impact it might be without knowing the numbers. Having 2 join buttons , one that gives the affiliate credit and one that doesnt is basically theft.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-12-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

kind of hard to "guess" how big of an impact it might be without knowing the numbers. Having 2 join buttons , one that gives the affiliate credit and one that doesnt is basically theft.

I kinda wonder aboyt the numbers as well. Site looks a bit 1990's.

LoveSandra · 05-12-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

she dumb as hell, hth

fatfoo · 05-12-2010, 09:25 PM

Good luck.

The Porn Nerd · 05-12-2010, 09:56 PM

Well that sucks but the best thing to do then is join MY program. My stuff converts better anyway, it's all CCBill, you'll get paid and you'll be happier then.

www.peabodycash.com

ICQ me if you need anything custom.

Good luck either way!!

BigDeanEvans · 05-12-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt

I'm still amazed anyone still uses vero for anything

Havent they been around forever?

Forkbeard · 05-13-2010, 01:08 PM

This "two processors but only one is linked to the affiliate program" sales leak is unfortunately very very common at small programs. There's no real excuse for it in a NATS world. Also, CCBill makes it easy to set up links that cascade through CCBill to a secondary processor.

This is just something that affiliates have to check at every new site. Small programs either don't understand or don't care that it's unacceptable to affiliates.

05-13-2010, 08:28 PM

I am glad you guys have nothing better to worry about then the fact that I have both CCBill and Verotel as options for people to sign up under. There is nothing wrong with either company. The affiliate program is being moved to CCBill only, so the Verotel link will be removed. Affiliates can sign up here http://www.desertbucks.com/signup.html

Coup · 05-13-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

I am glad you guys have nothing better to worry about then the fact that I have both CCBill and Verotel as options for people to sign up under. There is nothing wrong with either company. Affiliates can sign up here http://www.desertbucks.com/signup.html

You dumb as hell

05-13-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

You dumb as hell

So are you and your poor grammar. It would be "You're dumb as hell' If you are going to insult someone, at least know how to spell.

buck30 · 05-13-2010, 08:47 PM

Fbomb, thanks for the heads up, and we appreciate the notice. We just complteted, although from your post, not quite yet, transition from verotel to ccbill. icq me, i'll take care of you. The join buttons and relevant pages have been changed now, and you can be certain there are no more leaks. We are going through every page now to ensure that.

Greg

buck30 · 05-13-2010, 08:51 PM

a little sample of what is coming to desertcuties.com after a total rebuild, and Fbomb's proofreading of the site.

DigitalTheory · 05-13-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

I am glad you guys have nothing better to worry about then the fact that I have both CCBill and Verotel as options for people to sign up under. There is nothing wrong with either company. The affiliate program is being moved to CCBill only, so the Verotel link will be removed. Affiliates can sign up here http://www.desertbucks.com/signup.html

Considering that the person who posted this thread is interested in promoting your website, he better be worried about it. Why push traffic to a website that has a leak that you would not get payout for potential sign ups? If it was you in their shoes, would you worry, would you even bother promoting a site like that?

Was a simple question that only required a simple answer.

Coup · 05-13-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

Considering that the person who posted this thread is interested in promoting your website, he better be worried about it. Why push traffic to a website that has a leak that you would not get payout for potential sign ups? If it was you in their shoes, would you worry, would you even bother promoting a site like that?

Was a simple question that only required a simple answer.

this is why you dumb as hell

Coup · 05-13-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

So are you and your poor grammar. It would be "You're dumb as hell' If you are going to insult someone, at least know how to spell.

And this is like hitler calling simon weisenthal an anti-semite

dav3 · 05-13-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buck30

a little sample of what is coming to desertcuties.com after a total rebuild, and Fbomb's proofreading of the site.

threeead save!

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-13-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

I am glad you guys have nothing better to worry about then the fact that I have both CCBill and Verotel as options for people to sign up under. There is nothing wrong with either company. The affiliate program is being moved to CCBill only, so the Verotel link will be removed. Affiliates can sign up here http://www.desertbucks.com/signup.html

I dont care about all people that sign up, I care about making my cut from those that I sent to your site. I dont want to send traffic and get zero credit for it.

05-13-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

I dont care about all people that sign up, I care about making my cut from those that I sent to your site. I dont want to send traffic and get zero credit for it.

The issue is already fixed. I appreciate you pointing it out. It was a mistake that was corrected and the affiliate program is only CCBill now.

Scotty.T · 05-14-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

This "two processors but only one is linked to the affiliate program" sales leak is unfortunately very very common at small programs. There's no real excuse for it in a NATS world. Also, CCBill makes it easy to set up links that cascade through CCBill to a secondary processor.

This is just something that affiliates have to check at every new site. Small programs either don't understand or don't care that it's unacceptable to affiliates.

It's not just new sites either. Established programs still add additional processors to the join page even now.

Scotty.T · 05-14-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by buck30

Fbomb, thanks for the heads up, and we appreciate the notice. We just complteted, although from your post, not quite yet, transition from verotel to ccbill. icq me, i'll take care of you. The join buttons and relevant pages have been changed now, and you can be certain there are no more leaks. We are going through every page now to ensure that.

Greg

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Originally Posted by JaneB

The issue is already fixed. I appreciate you pointing it out. It was a mistake that was corrected and the affiliate program is only CCBill now.

There are still loads of traffic leaks on the site. Are there plans to make it leak free for affiliates?

There are still alternative non-ccbill join options also. Don't no if they cascade or not somehow. Doesn't look like it.

TeenCat · 05-14-2010, 01:35 AM

i must say good work in removing the verotel, it is not everyone who will do this ... good work!

buck30 · 05-14-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotty.T

There are still loads of traffic leaks on the site. Are there plans to make it leak free for affiliates?

There are still alternative non-ccbill join options also. Don't no if they cascade or not somehow. Doesn't look like it.

Can you please point out what you found? icq me, I will take care of it.

buck30 · 05-14-2010, 02:00 AM

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-14-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by buck30

Can you please point out what you found? icq me, I will take care of it.

Guys, I don’t mean to be rude or anything but do you have any clue what you’re doing and what affiliate program is about?
You have a shit load of pop-unders with toplists and freeonce galleries that have their ref code and not mine.
You have paysite listed under “our sites” that has cyberage join page - SamanthaDrone.com
Seriously, WTF????
Forget about it and good luck with running this “program”.

FlexxAeon · 05-14-2010, 07:52 PM

nav looks like this on my firefox

Domain Broker · 05-14-2010, 08:48 PM

where's that squirrel pussy picture?

Jon Oso · 05-14-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by buck30

Jesus christ greg. Jesus.

I don't deal with affiliate stuff or the running of programs but from a content shooter point of view, they have got some KILLER talent.

Supz · 05-14-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

The issue is already fixed. I appreciate you pointing it out. It was a mistake that was corrected and the affiliate program is only CCBill now.

This should have been your first answer. Sometimes you are your own worst enemy.

CurrentlySober · 05-15-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Domain Broker

where's that squirrel pussy picture?

Right here... Along side the Elephants...

candyflip · 05-15-2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by buck30

Can you please point out what you found? icq me, I will take care of it.

All your review site buttons on the main page are leaks...and that's just the beginning.

If you had any sense, you'd have an alternate, no leaks whatsoever, tour for affiliates to promote.

Forkbeard · 05-15-2010, 02:35 PM

The initial defensive answer and continuing cluelessness about traffic leaks is, sadly, normal for far too many do-it-yourself program owners. You usually see it when they transition a niche paysite into an affiliate program, but don't stop to consider that all the bizarre links and detours (clipsforsale links, DVDs by mail, link trades on the tour pages, toplist links, toy story white labels, all that stuff) that was fine for their own traffic (well, probably a bad idea actually, but whatever) is death to affiliate conversion.

First they say "traffic leaks?" what's a traffic leak?" and then they start getting huffy and defensive.

Sadly you have to watch even the biggest programs for this. Some months back I started noticing Stockroom toy links on my Kink.com tours. Of course when I wrote in, I learned that it was a temporary oversight and being removed from the tours being shown to affiliate traffic. Kink.com being what it is, that happened very fast once I complained. But you've got to stay alert.

Scotty.T · 05-17-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by buck30

Can you please point out what you found? icq me, I will take care of it.

It's basically what everyone else has pointed out. I didn't look in detail, but I spotted the review links, all the banners in your, 'links' page and I am seeing another couple of processors on the join page in addition to CCBill.

05-11-2010, 11:28 PM	#1
Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexifornia Posts: 970	WTF: Jane Burgess - why do you have Verotel club while doing CCBill affiliate program? I was about to join you program when I saw this. http://www.janeburgess.com/join.html So, I will be sending my traffic here. What happens with Verotel joins? I think that’s a shave, unless you have some king of link between ccbill and verotel. Please explain.

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TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	yes the ccb button have to be bigger. any i think people preffer ccbill so only few will choose vero instead of ccb. and vero will choose those who have problems with ccbill, and if there will be no vero button, there will be no sale. so, i dont care much. i think there are much bigger problems with sponsors than this __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

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Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	This "two processors but only one is linked to the affiliate program" sales leak is unfortunately very very common at small programs. There's no real excuse for it in a NATS world. Also, CCBill makes it easy to set up links that cascade through CCBill to a secondary processor. This is just something that affiliates have to check at every new site. Small programs either don't understand or don't care that it's unacceptable to affiliates. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

05-13-2010, 08:28 PM	#18
JaneB Guest Posts: n/a	I am glad you guys have nothing better to worry about then the fact that I have both CCBill and Verotel as options for people to sign up under. There is nothing wrong with either company. The affiliate program is being moved to CCBill only, so the Verotel link will be removed. Affiliates can sign up here http://www.desertbucks.com/signup.html Last edited by JaneB; 05-13-2010 at 08:42 PM..

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buck30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 863	Fbomb, thanks for the heads up, and we appreciate the notice. We just complteted, although from your post, not quite yet, transition from verotel to ccbill. icq me, i'll take care of you. The join buttons and relevant pages have been changed now, and you can be certain there are no more leaks. We are going through every page now to ensure that. Greg __________________ AZNewGirl.com DesertCuties.com Last edited by buck30; 05-13-2010 at 08:55 PM.. Reason: i cant spell

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buck30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 863	a little sample of what is coming to desertcuties.com after a total rebuild, and Fbomb's proofreading of the site. __________________ AZNewGirl.com DesertCuties.com

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TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	i must say good work in removing the verotel, it is not everyone who will do this ... good work! __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

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buck30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 863	__________________ AZNewGirl.com DesertCuties.com

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Domain Broker So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,427	where's that squirrel pussy picture?

05-15-2010, 02:35 PM	#41
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	The initial defensive answer and continuing cluelessness about traffic leaks is, sadly, normal for far too many do-it-yourself program owners. You usually see it when they transition a niche paysite into an affiliate program, but don't stop to consider that all the bizarre links and detours (clipsforsale links, DVDs by mail, link trades on the tour pages, toplist links, toy story white labels, all that stuff) that was fine for their own traffic (well, probably a bad idea actually, but whatever) is death to affiliate conversion. First they say "traffic leaks?" what's a traffic leak?" and then they start getting huffy and defensive. Sadly you have to watch even the biggest programs for this. Some months back I started noticing Stockroom toy links on my Kink.com tours. Of course when I wrote in, I learned that it was a temporary oversight and being removed from the tours being shown to affiliate traffic. Kink.com being what it is, that happened very fast once I complained. But you've got to stay alert. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.