One thing that could help turn this industry around FAST

[Choker]

I've been thinking about this a lot. I predicted 3 years ago that porn as the end product will will be phased out and using this same porn to sell other products will be the only means of survival for most of us. You be the judge of if this prediction has come true or not.

Now my idea is really simple but there are only a handfull of companies that could pull it off.

1. Make a clone of myfreecams. Would have to be a big cam site that has enough girls already.

2. Make a affiliate system whereas affiliates can cobrand the site and put whatever advertising they want on it. Affiliates get paid when surfers deposit money for tokens.

3. Make add tools such as fake msn messenger adds with live feeds of webcam girls. I frame feeds etc. Click goes straight to that girls page.

4. Affiliates can advertise other products on their cobrand, and can have links to porn movies etc. The goal is to get surfers to bookmark thier sites and eventually see a webcam girl they like enough to make a deposit. Hell even let the affiliate make his cobrand a MGP/webcam style site, anything he wants, he doesnt get paid unless the surfer deposits money so the cam owner really shouldnt care what he does.

Thoughts?

[Agent 488]

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[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Choker

I've been thinking about this a lot. I predicted 3 years ago that porn as the end product will will be phased out and using this same porn to sell other products will be the only means of survival for most of us. You be the judge of if this prediction has come true or not.

No, that is not true. Many many people are still buying porn for porn.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Caligari

No, that is not true. Many many people are still buying porn for porn.

I didn't say they weren't, but the number of people buying porn for porn is geting smaller every day.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Choker

I've been thinking about this a lot. I predicted 3 years ago that porn as the end product will will be phased out and using this same porn to sell other products will be the only means of survival for most of us. You be the judge of if this prediction has come true or not.

Now my idea is really simple but there are only a handfull of companies that could pull it off.

1. Make a clone of myfreecams. Would have to be a big cam site that has enough girls already.

2. Make a affiliate system whereas affiliates can cobrand the site and put whatever advertising they want on it. Affiliates get paid when surfers deposit money for tokens.

3. Make add tools such as fake msn messenger adds with live feeds of webcam girls. I frame feeds etc. Click goes straight to that girls page.

4. Affiliates can advertise other products on their cobrand, and can have links to porn movies etc. The goal is to get surfers to bookmark thier sites and eventually see a webcam girl they like enough to make a deposit. Hell even let the affiliate make his cobrand a MGP/webcam style site, anything he wants, he doesnt get paid unless the surfer deposits money so the cam owner really shouldnt care what he does.

Thoughts?

Simplistic idea...and exactly how does that turn anything around? In addition provide a link to your prediction of three years ago...please.

[BlackCrayon]

i see paysites of the future as being pretty different than what they are today. think about this

people want variety and they don't want to join a ton of sites to get, this is in part why tubes are so popular, so why doesn't someone start a paysite where content providers each have their own 'section'. memberships can be cheap or go up in price depending upon how many content providers you want access to. i don't know all of the details but its just an idea. conent providers would either sell the content or get a % depending on how popular their 'section' is.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i see paysites of the future as being pretty different than what they are today. think about this

people want variety and they don't want to join a ton of sites to get, this is in part why tubes are so popular, so why doesn't someone start a paysite where content providers each have their own 'section'. memberships can be cheap or go up in price depending upon how many content providers you want access to. i don't know all of the details but its just an idea. conent providers would either sell the content or get a % depending on how popular their 'section' is.

Interesting, the bottom line is that every day there are less and less people paying to see porn. There are now many huge sponsor programs that have big tube sites that they use thier paysites content on to get upsells to their paysites and advertise dating,cams, penis pills, etc etc. They are using thier content to sell whatever it is people are currently buying. It's common sense, use your content to advertise products they can't get for free.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by theking

Simplistic idea...and exactly how does that turn anything around? In addition provide a link to your prediction of three years ago...please.

I don't feel like digging thru threads, search yourself.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Choker

I don't feel like digging thru threads, search yourself.

No...and you did not answer my question.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Choker

I didn't say they weren't, but the number of people buying porn for porn is geting smaller every day.

actually you said "porn as the end product will will be phased out" and thats not even close.

yes damage has been done by tubes, file sharing, mediocre economy etc. but as black crayon stated very accurately "people want variety and they don't want to join a ton of sites to get it."

this is why the VOD model still works very well. it is the ultimate in variety, no paysite can match it and furthermore you don't have to JOIN anything. no membership fees, you just pay for what you want and watch it when you want to watch it.

that is freedom and diversity and its selling nicely.

any good VOD site like Moviedollars, AEBN, Gamelink etc will have something illegal tubes and file sharing douchebags do not have...constant NEW variety.

there is no tube or file sharing site on the planet which can keep up with the amount of new vids being released on VOD and millions of surfers know this.

Not only that, the surfers are quite aware by now that they do not want to put up with the malware and virus bullshit (not to mention spam) they have to wade thru with tubes and torrents.

okay i digressed a little, but my end point is that even though the online adult industry is hurting now, its far from being "phased out."

[Choker]

Originally Posted by theking

No...and you did not answer my question.

Nor will I, i have no interest in talking to anon trolls like you.

[Gambrinus]

[CIVMatt]

Business aside, how have you been Choker, anything new at your end of Florida?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Choker

Nor will I, i have no interest in talking to anon trolls like you.

That is just an excuse for not answering. The real reason you do not answer is because your idea is simplistic and your assertion that it would..."turn this industry around FAST"...is a stupid assertion...end of story.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Caligari

actually you said "porn as the end product will will be phased out" and thats not even close.

yes damage has been done by tubes, file sharing, mediocre economy etc. but as black crayon stated very accurately "people want variety and they don't want to join a ton of sites to get it."

this is why the VOD model still works very well. it is the ultimate in variety, no paysite can match it and furthermore you don't have to JOIN anything. no membership fees, you just pay for what you want and watch it when you want to watch it.

that is freedom and diversity and its selling nicely.

any good VOD site like Moviedollars, AEBN, Gamelink etc will have something illegal tubes and file sharing douchebags do not have...constant NEW variety.

there is no tube or file sharing site on the planet which can keep up with the amount of new vids being released on VOD and millions of surfers know this.

Not only that, the surfers are quite aware by now that they do not want to put up with the malware and virus bullshit (not to mention spam) they have to wade thru with tubes and torrents.

okay i digressed a little, but my end point is that even though the online adult industry is hurting now, its far from being "phased out."

The purpose of my thread is not to argue if the selling of pornsite memberships is still gonna be enough to put food on the table in a year or not. If you think it is keep doing what your doing. Maybe all these threads of late of disapearing sponsors and guys not getting paid are fake drama threads? You CANNOT stop the damn from bursting. Sure you can plug a leak here, plug a new leak there, but sooner or later there's gonna be too many holes to plug and it's simply gonna break.

XXXJay recent changes where he is giving away the first few minutes of his movies is smart and should make some money for the short term, but he's a smart man and surely he realizes that this is just a temporary plug of a leak that is relentless.

[Dirty Dane]

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[Choker]

Originally Posted by theking

That is just an excuse for not answering. The real reason you do not answer is because your idea is simplistic and your assertion that it would turn things around "FAST" is a stupid assertion...end of story.

No, you are a disgusting anon troll and I choose to ignore idiot trolls like you. end of story.

[Atticus]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i see paysites of the future as being pretty different than what they are today. think about this

people want variety and they don't want to join a ton of sites to get, this is in part why tubes are so popular, so why doesn't someone start a paysite where content providers each have their own 'section'. memberships can be cheap or go up in price depending upon how many content providers you want access to. i don't know all of the details but its just an idea. conent providers would either sell the content or get a % depending on how popular their 'section' is.

This is basically the cable TV approach where users pay a premium fee for certain channels like HBO, Showtime, Cinemax etc. This doesnt solve anything in regards to the basic problem: The content provided is free elsewhere.

[Theo]

it's an interesting model which will most likely work well,but the impact will in the industry as a total will be extremely limited.

[Jack Sparrow]

You are basically saying "lets build a free tube, but instead of free videos make it free cams".
And THAT would save the industry? Or would it? Maybe it would kill the camindustry as a hole. Or maybe we would all be getting rich like it was 1991.

If if..

Theres more then enough money to be made in porn, i really hate to say this, but adapt or cry. It seems people get lazier everyday, still thinking back to the old days when you could slap on a banner and it would sell no matter what.

What would save the industry? Much simpler things. Start with putting some time and effort into it instead of sitting around thinking about what could have been.

(And myfreemcams is already there, AND has an affiliate program ..)

[Choker]

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Business aside, how have you been Choker, anything new at your end of Florida?

Hey man, yeah I'm moving again. LOL. Grabbed a acre in wedgefield with two houses on it.

[Choker]

So instead of stupid ideas like "let's form a trade association to limit free porn" etc etc, I share a idea that is feasible and people argue with me about the demise of porn site memberships. LOL.

If someone came up with a program like this and if I utilised it the way I envision, I could easily add 25% to my gross income almost immedietly.

The haters and people with their heads in the sand....I could care less about your opinions. Existing webcam sponsors, well I hope some of you guys read this thread and think about it really hard. myfreecams has snuck in the market with a new revolutionary concept just like pornhub did and we all know how that turned out don't we?

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Choker

So instead of stupid ideas like "let's form a trade association to limit free porn" etc etc, I share a idea that is feasible and people argue with me about the demise of porn site memberships. LOL.

If someone came up with a program like this and if I utilised it the way I envision, I could easily add 25% to my gross income almost immedietly.

The haters and people with their heads in the sand....I could care less about your opinions. Existing webcam sponsors, well I hope some of you guys read this thread and think about it really hard. myfreecams has snuck in the market with a new revolutionary concept just like pornhub did and we all know how that turned out don't we?

LOL.

What did you expect? We would sit around in a circle listening to your "feasible" ideas?
How would you know it would add 25% to your income, you never even where an affiliate of a program just like that or?

Come one choker, its not your first day in the field now, is it...

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

LOL.

What did you expect? We would sit around in a circle listening to your "feasible" ideas?
How would you know it would add 25% to your income, you never even where an affiliate of a program just like that or?

Come one choker, its not your first day in the field now, is it...

We? you consider your self part of the group now? accepted by GFY community as "we" lol. People need a reminder occasionaly of what a scumbag you are. Nobody considers YOU as part of "we". You are a joke and other than the 5 or so other fake nicks you have here, you have no friends here.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Choker

We? you consider your self part of the group now? accepted by GFY community as "we" lol. People need a reminder occasionaly of what a scumbag you are. Nobody considers YOU as part of "we". You are a joke and other than the 5 or so other fake nicks you have here, you have no friends here.

You said: "The haters and people with their heads in the sand....I could care less about your opinions."

So i put myself with the people with their hands in the sand that you could care less about. Thats us, as in "we".

If you dont care, why post such "feasible" ideas

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

You said: "The haters and people with their heads in the sand....I could care less about your opinions."

So i put myself with the people with their hands in the sand that you could care less about. Thats us, as in "we".

If you dont care, why post such "feasible" ideas

The reason for my post was simply to find out if anyone was making a program like this or not. Guess what I found out?

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Choker

The reason for my post was simply to find out if anyone was making a program like this or not. Guess what I found out?

tell me...

[woj]

how will this solve anything besides fucking up another decent income source (cams)? Yea, it will convert great for the first 30 days, and then what?

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by woj

how will this solve anything besides fucking up another decent income source (cams)? Yea, it will convert great for the first 30 days, and then what?

Exactly my point.

[Argos88]

remove that gay avatar, man... its disgusting to see a liquify dick there...

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[FrozenJag]

Honestly,

I think its pure gold, and I would already be doing it if I had the right domain and coder at my disposal.

Anybody that has an A+ domain, VERY good coder or coders, and the proper startup funds in place and isnt doing exactly what you described..... Well, you get the picture.

[punkpred]

Originally Posted by Choker

We? you consider your self part of the group now? accepted by GFY community as "we" lol. People need a reminder occasionaly of what a scumbag you are. Nobody considers YOU as part of "we". You are a joke and other than the 5 or so other fake nicks you have here, you have no friends here.

He has 2 friend Marco and eastwood, but marco is banned and eastwood vanished after friskyjack was allowed back in.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i see paysites of the future as being pretty different than what they are today. think about this

people want variety and they don't want to join a ton of sites to get, this is in part why tubes are so popular, so why doesn't someone start a paysite where content providers each have their own 'section'. memberships can be cheap or go up in price depending upon how many content providers you want access to. i don't know all of the details but its just an idea. conent providers would either sell the content or get a % depending on how popular their 'section' is.

The move to exclusive content was for most a very bad move. It led to sites being shot by one or two shooters and after a while the scenes start to all look the same. I have one way of shooting and even though it's evolved over the years it's still my interpretation of how teen porn should be. It appeals to only people with the same view as me. And it gets boring when applied to a whole site. Porn consumers want variety in their niche.

Also shorter cheaper joins would help. A big selection of varied content to get off to now and no bother about joining for a month recurring.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Choker

Interesting, the bottom line is that every day there are less and less people paying to see porn. There are now many huge sponsor programs that have big tube sites that they use thier paysites content on to get upsells to their paysites and advertise dating,cams, penis pills, etc etc. They are using thier content to sell whatever it is people are currently buying. It's common sense, use your content to advertise products they can't get for free.

The problem was affiliates complaining about not getting a slice of this cake, when it was inside the site.

Today all sites should offer these options inside their sites, not just a link to a cam site where they can see what's free on any cam sites tour. But real live shows with the girls performing to all all want to see. Up sells to dating site, penis pills etc. At a lot less than it cost from a Tube site as well. The day has come to give the customer a lot more bang for his buck.

Originally Posted by Choker

No, you are a disgusting anon troll and I choose to ignore idiot trolls like you. end of story.

So put him on ignore. He's a troll with nothing to offer.