smsmovies.net out of business?

[Screwed Up]

Does anyone have any other contact info for them than what's on their site and whois?

Haven't got paid in a while...

[After Shock Media]

Feel for you and sorry you are in the UK when it comes to the whole check costs issues and of course the wire fee's from trusted 3rd party processors like ccbill and such.

This is just a major concern and often thought about issue when it comes to promoting sites that handle their own payroll and run via Nats or any other 3rd party non billing system like MPA etc. Companies are folding this year faster than they went up in the solo site boom of the past two years.

[Screwed Up]

Thanks for the reply.

And...

Dammit!

[FreeHugeMovies]

Kiss Kiss

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Feel for you and sorry you are in the UK when it comes to the whole check costs issues and of course the wire fee's from trusted 3rd party processors like ccbill and such.

This is just a major concern and often thought about issue when it comes to promoting sites that handle their own payroll and run via Nats or any other 3rd party non billing system like MPA etc. Companies are folding this year faster than they went up in the solo site boom of the past two years.

Damm I used to promote smsmovies, did not even know they were not paying out. In the little time I have been in the adult biz so many sponsors have folded and end up not paying webmasters their money. Seems like adult is a throw away biz sometimes

[MaDalton]

i try to remember who was praising them to me as the future of the porn business...

[Tasty1]

I just received a payment on octobre 7. In may they didn't pay, and the folowing month they paid for 2 months. But they always do that cause they are on holiday then. There were problems with security, check your account details if nothing changed. i expect the next payment next week.

mail address of Lee: [email protected] or try [email protected]

[Loch]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i try to remember who was praising them to me as the future of the porn business...

Most likely a sales person or the owner

[Tasty1]

I made good money with them, much better than the dutch 0,80 cents/per minute or subscription sites. Works perfect in europe. But the best days are over, just like most paysites.

[jonnax]

I have been paid but payments have been late 2 times in this year..
Last month i received 2 wires from them..

[Tasty1]

I hope they will start investing, it was a great programm. But is stays the same and sales go down.

[Tasty1]

Got my payment today So they are still in business.

I won a Xbox360 last year, nice price

[fatfoo]

I guess it is out of business.

[notime]

Originally Posted by airholland

Got my payment today So they are still in business.

I won a Xbox360 last year, nice price

Congratz on your 100' post Bjorn

[Iron Fist]

Join the club.... except i'm having problems with a program doing a wire payment... been 2 months and still going back and forth..

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by notime

Congratz on your 100' post Bjorn

Thanks Jack I didn't see i already have so many post.


PS, If you are looking for other sms movies, look at the dvdstore whitelabel from www.spacash.com

[mr david]

Stats with smsmovies seem more or less dead as of November, anyone else having this problem?

[Tasty1]

I just checked, and my stats work. The 'euro' sign isn't displayed right i see.
My last sales are made today.

I have mailed the webmaster of smsadult that there is a discussion going on about their programm. Maybe they can give a reaction.

[Zamiboy]

Now it look like they are totally dead. No reply to support tickets or emails and payment is late. Anyone still promoting them and having same issues? I'm really worriend about this because they still are my best sponsor...

[Tasty1]

I checked, last payment was february 17, 2010.
I expect the next payment this/next week.

[Pandoras]

I hope everything will be solved boys

[Zamiboy]

Airholland, why do you expect to get paid this late?
Maybe i have missed something as i expect to get paid before 15'th day of month.
See, i have been promoting them since 2004 and that's last time i have read their rules. Maybe the rules have changed since then.

[Tasty1]

I promote them since 2005. Never had any problems. I noticed they payment sometimes arrive a few days earlier or later. But i don't care about a few days, if it is there at the end of the month it is ok. Most of the time when something goes wrong with a payment i notice that after 3 months when i do bookkeeping for VAT. When a payments is a few days late, that can happen. Maybe he has holiday or something. Some people get in panic of there is a 1 day delay.

And if they are out of business, that could happen to. The best times for smsmovies are over, they didn't improve anything the last years. I made my own sms payment site as alternative.

I also use this for sms movies: http://tinyurl.com/yho69rn whitelabel from http://www.spacash.com/?id=film
Much better and frequently updated, people can download the movie to own.

[Tjeezers]

Originally Posted by sharphead

Join the club.... except i'm having problems with a program doing a wire payment... been 2 months and still going back and forth..

Thats weird stuff, whats so hard about a wire payment?
2 months is a little to much

[jonnax]

Anyone received this month payments?

[DVTimes]

good luck

[Tasty1]

mm, they are very late now.

maybe i have to find some new sms movies sponsors.

I use also:
http://www.cashdepartment.com/?wm_refer=113

[Zamiboy]

Very very late indeed. Still waiting to get paid.

I have been using cashdepartment too, but just can't get much out of it.

[Tasty1]

Zamiboy, sms movies also works better than cashdepartment i noticed.
Do you have alternatives? I also have scandinavian domains with smsmovies.

[jonnax]

Well now it says in adminarea that 2010-03-30 payment has been processed..
Sad that there are no alternatives with similar setup..

[SEO Expert]

Originally Posted by jonnax

Anyone received this month payments?

I just checked and yeah, it's here.

[Zamiboy]

Yeah, now payments are processed. Lets see if money will show up. Hope so.

Unfortunately i don't know real alternatives, so i hope smsmovies would improve a bit.

[Zamiboy]

Got the money too. :-)

[Tasty1]

I think i will receive the payment soon.
We will never know why it was late, i think they went on vacation.
I hope they will put more time in their system and update it.

[Zamiboy]

Hope everybody got their money. Wondering how long it takes to pay this month...

[Tasty1]

I haven't had the money for last month...
The system shows that the transaction was processed.

Mailed them, support ticket, no reaction

If there is no payment i stop promoting in 2-3 weeks.

[Tasty1]

Just got the payment for the last month. Maybe my bank hold it for 2 weeks?

[Zamiboy]

That worries me most. Total lack of communication. Some emails even bounced back.

I see foreign wire transfers on my account few days earlier than i actuall get them. I don't think european banks could hold money for weeks, just few days max.

Before i was receiving payments by wire from smsmovies but i noticed epassporte is faster. Not too big difference on fees...

[swea]

The guys behind free6/smsmovies have had some trouble with the Swedish Tax Authorities. The authories claims 50 millions Swedish crowns, about 5 million Euros, in unpaid taxes.

I watched a clip on swedish tv when they interview the man from the authories leading the investigation and a fun thing is that they are not sure from what country the are running the smsmovies site now, because it is still running as usual:-)

So this might explain why they can be hard to get in touch with.

latest article in a swedish newspaper about it: dn. se/ekonomi/mangmiljonkrav-mot-porrforetag-1.1050952 (swedish only)

[Screwed Up]

I didn't realize this thread has been bumped so many times.
I still haven't been paid out for about a year now. Send another few emails and a support ticket. We'll see what happens.

thanks for the bumps

[Tasty1]

swea, thanks for the update!

Translated with G00gle:

Multi Miljonkrav against porn company

Tax requires a company in Malmö on 50 million in unpaid taxes, reports Sydnytt.

The company, which has gone bankrupt, sold streaming porn movies on the internet.

The owners have stated that activities were carried out in the tax haven of Curacao, but the Tax Board believes that it is possible to show that its server and customer service existed in Malmo.

One of the company's three owners are arrested in the Philippines on suspicion of trafficking, while the other two are still living in Malmo.

Date: 2010-02-23
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I wonder if they keep going on. The last payments were made, but with a delay.
There was no customer support, so how could they be in Malmo
There are more companies that pay tax in other lands than their servers are standing.
I hope they can solve this and go on.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

I didn't realize this thread has been bumped so many times.
I still haven't been paid out for about a year now. Send another few emails and a support ticket. We'll see what happens.

thanks for the bumps

I think you didn't reach the minimum payout? Your previous payments must have been taken care of. We got those. They aren't replying, cause there is no customer service.

[SZNY]

there are some rumours about the owners, 1 is on the run and the other one locked up in Thailand, can't confirm it but Free6 and smsmovies are related in some kind of way , maybe that's the reason for this all

[swea]

It all started with the Swedish company (the one that gone bankrupt) that owned free6.com and they were also running some phone sex. Then they started up smsmovies.net but at some time they transfered smsmovies to a foreign company structure in tax havens. The tax authoroties claims the real owners of is is the swedish company or the owners of it and it should be taxed in Sweden because it is managed from here.

Crimes regarding tax is really serious in Sweden. If convicted you are looking at several years in prison.

One of the owners is arrested in the Philippines on suspicion of trafficking, regarding some kind of webcam operation they had there. He has been arrested for about a year now.

About the same time as the guy was arrested in the Phillipines the Swedish Tax authorities started the investigation about smsmovies.

As SZNY says there is a rumour that one of the guys living in Malmo is on the run, but nothing has been said about it in the news.

It's hard to predict what will happen with this mess, but as smsmovies is still up running somebody must be out there operating it:-)

I'm really feeling sorry for these guys, got some good cash in the past from them, never had any problem with them and free6.com was the first porn site I visited, it's a shame it's gone.

Anyways, I hope it works out the best for them.

[LoveSandra]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Kiss Kiss

[SZNY]

Originally Posted by swea

Anyways, I hope it works out the best for them.

Indeed I also hope it works out well for them. I went one time to Malmo to party with them and they are cool people.

[Tasty1]

I know now much more about the guys operating it than before. It always went smooth and than there is no need of contact. Locked up in The Philipens, authorities on their back.

I saw the changes in address and thought they were lying in the sun and enjoying the good life. Hope they will get back on track, but it sounds like serious trouble. At least we now know why.

[Screwed Up]

Originally Posted by airholland

I think you didn't reach the minimum payout? Your previous payments must have been taken care of. We got those. They aren't replying, cause there is no customer service.

I've reached minimum payout ages ago.
But what payout method did you choose? I chose wire?

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

I've reached minimum payout ages ago.
But what payout method did you choose? I chose wire?

I also use by wire, to a bank in Holland.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i try to remember who was praising them to me as the future of the porn business...