Down the Tubes: How free streaming video threatens the porn industry - GoFuckYourself.com

MasterBlow · 08-27-2010, 02:34 AM

Editor's note: The following review is about pornography. If the subject itself offends, please stop reading. Why write about it? First, because pornography is "intimately linked with the evolution of communications technology," as one history professor interviewed puts it. Second, because the porn industry, like the music and newspaper industries, faces a technological problem and doesn't know what to do next.

"Piracy has hurt us a lot," says Ali Joone, founder and director of the adult-film company Digital Playground, which last year tracked illegal downloads of its most popular title, Pirates. "Over the course of a month, it was downloaded about four million times. And that's just from a handful of sites. Even if those downloads cost us a thousand customers, let's say, who were going to pay--that hurts."

The porn studios face the same fundamental question as any content provider in the Internet age: how do you protect your stuff once it's "out there"? The answer, so far, is, "Not well."

The tube effect has been profound enough to inspire a recent public-service announcement featuring more than a dozen adult performers and directors pleading with fans not to view pirated porn. One actress, Charley Chase (who did not participate in the PSA but says she faces the same troubles), got into the business in late 2007 on the promise of lots of work at high pay. But the pay has dropped and the work has dried up. "And it's all because of piracy," she says.

According to Travis Nestor, a former agent for and a founder of the now-defunct It Models, a scene that might have paid an actress $900 in 2004 will now net her $600. In the same period, rates for male performers have dropped from around $500 per scene to $300. But that's only half the effect, because there are fewer studios making fewer movies. Joone says that five years ago the industry might have released 400 new titles a week, but that output has been cut in half. "People just aren't buying," he says.

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damnage · 08-27-2010, 02:44 AM

Damn, haven't heard this before....

wait a second.

Barefootsies · 08-27-2010, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by damnage

Damn, haven't heard this before....

wait a second.

Breaking news....

Paul Markham · 08-27-2010, 03:09 AM

Yes you may well laugh. Easier than coming up with a solution that will work.

Interesting article.

Still don't see the solution of "Joining them" as so great. DVDs can do little to win customers back. Online porn can.

bronco67 · 08-27-2010, 07:50 AM

As a porn watcher, I've noticed a HUGE decline in the types of movies I like to watch. In the early to mid 2000's(the golden years as far as I'm concerned), there were so many good series I followed, I couldn't even keep up with 'em-- now I'd be lucky to see one or two titles that catch my eye a year.

Way less reverse gangbangs, orgies, series with multiple girls. The stuff I like basically.

There has to be something bad going on.

CaptainHowdy · 08-27-2010, 07:52 AM

Paul Markham · 08-27-2010, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67

As a porn watcher, I've noticed a HUGE decline in the types of movies I like to watch. In the early to mid 2000's(the golden years as far as I'm concerned), there were so many good series I followed, I couldn't even keep up with 'em-- now I'd be lucky to see one or two titles that catch my eye a year.

Way less reverse gangbangs, orgies, series with multiple girls. The stuff I like basically.

There has to be something bad going on.

The cost of production X price publishers are willing to pay = Less quality.

Happened in music, now in porn.

american pervert · 08-27-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Breaking news....

MIT asked Scott Fayner to write that article. It's not meant for webmasters but the lay person who has no idea about this shit. Not everyone is on top of shit like you are.

DWB · 08-27-2010, 08:55 AM

If this makes any of you feel better, I am now paying MORE for (some) Thai hookers than some of you are paying for LA porn chicks.

Shit is totally upside down.

Slutboat · 08-27-2010, 09:00 AM

It's unbelievable how many of you guys love to complain about tubes and free porn, how ignorant and shortsighted can you be? It's like you dinosaurs have all your stock tied up in VHS and you're crying and bitching about the new fangled DVD putting your pussy asses out of business.

08-27-2010, 02:34 AM	#1
MasterBlow Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 2,059	Down the Tubes: How free streaming video threatens the porn industry Editor's note: The following review is about pornography. If the subject itself offends, please stop reading. Why write about it? First, because pornography is "intimately linked with the evolution of communications technology," as one history professor interviewed puts it. Second, because the porn industry, like the music and newspaper industries, faces a technological problem and doesn't know what to do next. "Piracy has hurt us a lot," says Ali Joone, founder and director of the adult-film company Digital Playground, which last year tracked illegal downloads of its most popular title, Pirates. "Over the course of a month, it was downloaded about four million times. And that's just from a handful of sites. Even if those downloads cost us a thousand customers, let's say, who were going to pay--that hurts." The porn studios face the same fundamental question as any content provider in the Internet age: how do you protect your stuff once it's "out there"? The answer, so far, is, "Not well." The tube effect has been profound enough to inspire a recent public-service announcement featuring more than a dozen adult performers and directors pleading with fans not to view pirated porn. One actress, Charley Chase (who did not participate in the PSA but says she faces the same troubles), got into the business in late 2007 on the promise of lots of work at high pay. But the pay has dropped and the work has dried up. "And it's all because of piracy," she says. According to Travis Nestor, a former agent for and a founder of the now-defunct It Models, a scene that might have paid an actress $900 in 2004 will now net her $600. In the same period, rates for male performers have dropped from around $500 per scene to $300. But that's only half the effect, because there are fewer studios making fewer movies. Joone says that five years ago the industry might have released 400 new titles a week, but that output has been cut in half. "People just aren't buying," he says. Article __________________

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