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xbizdon · 09-20-2010, 03:47 PM

XBIZ NEWS: After Targeting 635, LFP Plans More Bit Torrent Suits

DALLAS ? LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/125412

Alprazolam · 09-20-2010, 03:48 PM

2010 is the year of the lawsuit.

marketsmart · 09-20-2010, 03:48 PM

DALLAS — LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online, XBIZ has learned.
"It's about time that LFP and the industry go after those who download our content, otherwise you can watch all of your efforts and your profit wither away," LFP Michael Klein told XBIZ. "There's a need [for litigation], and we can make a few dollars along the way."

Klein said that LFP has been successful in several litigated cases in Europe, but that the latest suit against 635 John Does would be the first bit torrent suit waged in the U.S.

"This is the first suit of many," he said. "And we chose to focus on the particular film because it's a new release, and one that would fall victim to the rampant piracy."

The suit, filed at U.S. District Court in Dallas, focuses on those who allegedly downloaded and distributed “Barely Legal School Girls 6" via torrent sites BTJunkie.org, OSOHunt.com, Torrentz.com, TorrentBit.net, ExtraTorrent.com and EvilTorrent.com.

The 635 Does named in the suit allegedly downloaded and distributed the video during the period Sept. 2-17.

LFP is asking for the court to order the Does' Internet service providers to reveal their identities. The ISPs identified in the suit run the gamut from blue-chip national providers to institutions, including Western New Mexico University and the MidMichigan Medical Center.

The copyright suit seeks damages, as well as attorneys fees. It is being waged by attorney Evan Stone of Denton, Texas.

Alky · 09-20-2010, 03:54 PM

It'll be interesting to see if some law isn't made regarding suing thousands of people with the intention of just settling.

Someone went after the RIAA, trying to get them for racketeering... I don't think anything ever came of it, but this is sure as hell going to start flooding the hell out of the court systems.

Caligari · 09-20-2010, 03:59 PM

go get 'em Larry!!!

Jon Oso · 09-20-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

OSOHunt.com,

Not involved. Although I laughed when I saw the name.

Jdoughs · 09-20-2010, 04:04 PM

I read that whole article and not once does it say who or what LFP is.

I figured it out but I've been around for 7 years and didn't know, stuff like that should be mentioned. (When you use an acronym, specify it's meaning at least in one part of the story.)

candyflip · 09-20-2010, 04:21 PM

That should be ISOHunt.com

SteveLightspeed · 09-20-2010, 04:26 PM

I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet."

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Allison · 09-20-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet."

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Ya I'm curious if this thread will become as heated of a debate as yours did.

Alprazolam · 09-20-2010, 04:30 PM

where is gideon fuckface?

i wish someone would shove a ear of corn up that fuckers ass.

DWB · 09-20-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet."

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Somewhere out there, a bunch of assholes just puckered as news of this broke.

DWB · 09-20-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

I read that whole article and not once does it say who or what LFP is.

I figured it out but I've been around for 7 years and didn't know, stuff like that should be mentioned. (When you use an acronym, specify it's meaning at least in one part of the story.)

First thing the story says:

DALLAS ? Larry Flynt Publications, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday...

spanky · 09-20-2010, 04:50 PM

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...rcement-online

"A bipartisan bill unveiled Monday would make it easier for the Justice Department to shut down websites that traffic pirated music, movies and counterfeit goods."

RycEric · 09-20-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

That should be ISOHunt.com

Typo on xbiz.

re: Case 3:10-cv-01863-O

"Relevant sites witnessed in this matter include btjunkie.org, isohunt.com, torrentz.com, torrentbit.net, extratorrent.com and eviltorrent.com." I'll also note that these are trackers who notoriously ignore takedown notices or are extremely uncooperative in regards to removal requests.

Jdoughs · 09-20-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

First thing the story says:

DALLAS ? Larry Flynt Publications, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday...

I read that 3 times and never saw it!

DWB · 09-20-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...rcement-online

"A bipartisan bill unveiled Monday would make it easier for the Justice Department to shut down websites that traffic pirated music, movies and counterfeit goods."

The walls are starting to slowly close in.

tiger · 09-20-2010, 05:42 PM

There are going to be a lot more of these that's for sure. I'm wondering why you couldn't do the same thing with people downloading videos on a tube site. Would be a good excuse to subpoena the records of the tube site in question as well.

SteveLightspeed · 09-20-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam

2010 is the year of the lawsuit.

You haven't seen anything YET.

DWB · 09-21-2010, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

You haven't seen anything YET.

Rock on with your bad self.

MrBottomTooth · 09-21-2010, 07:38 AM

Just wondering why they wouldn't target users from thepiratebay as well, since it has to be one of the biggest.

sweetcuties · 09-21-2010, 07:41 AM

Good, glad to see something's gonna be done... tired of seeing my shit ripped

candyflip · 09-21-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Typo on xbiz.

re: Case 3:10-cv-01863-O

"Relevant sites witnessed in this matter include btjunkie.org, isohunt.com, torrentz.com, torrentbit.net, extratorrent.com and eviltorrent.com." I'll also note that these are trackers who notoriously ignore takedown notices or are extremely uncooperative in regards to removal requests.

I would imagine this is because they aren't hosting any of the content. Links to and descriptions of, yes...but not a bit of the actual content.

If they were watching a certain title...what are the ramifications if they are the ones who actually put the file out in the wild to be tracked. Or did they just go searching for a title and nail everyone who downloaded over that period of time?

selena · 09-21-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet."

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

This thread makes me smile. Rock on LFP!

Ravage · 09-21-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

You haven't seen anything YET.

Rock on Steve

Paul Markham · 09-21-2010, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...rcement-online

"A bipartisan bill unveiled Monday would make it easier for the Justice Department to shut down websites that traffic pirated music, movies and counterfeit goods."

It has to come, too many big companies are losing too much money to let it carry on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger

There are going to be a lot more of these that's for sure. I'm wondering why you couldn't do the same thing with people downloading videos on a tube site. Would be a good excuse to subpoena the records of the tube site in question as well.

Don't know about downloading as most just watch. Hitting the uploaders is IMO the key. Once we know who they are we can milk them. The chink in Tubes armor is the part of the DMCA that says they don't monitor or control the content.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky

It'll be interesting to see if some law isn't made regarding suing thousands of people with the intention of just settling.

Someone went after the RIAA, trying to get them for racketeering... I don't think anything ever came of it, but this is sure as hell going to start flooding the hell out of the court systems.

Then companies like Acacia would be well fucked.

Alky · 09-21-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Then companies like Acacia would be well fucked.

Didn't Acacia just sue a few people?

This is more or less carpet bombing everyone and anyone. Steve & his lawyer have already said they are suing thousands of people.

It'll be interesting to see if companies like Comcast and the like will eventually stop complying with subpoenas.... it's costing them money as well to research all of this.

Paul Markham · 09-21-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alky

Didn't Acacia just sue a few people?

This is more or less carpet bombing everyone and anyone. Steve & his lawyer have already said they are suing thousands of people.

It'll be interesting to see if companies like Comcast and the like will eventually stop complying with subpoenas.... it's costing them money as well to research all of this.

Yes lets see Comcast ignore subpoenas. LOL

Alky · 09-21-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes lets see Comcast ignore subpoenas. LOL

There are quite a few ISPs out there, that are fighting them

SpongeBub · 09-21-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

You haven't seen anything YET.

That's right ... because there won't be anything to see. This will have about as much effect as the RIAA and MPAA suing people did. And we all know how that turned out because I sure cannot d/l any music or movies these days.

The only way that pirating will eventually be stopped is if the ISP's stop it. Until they get their act together and start kicking off the downloaders, it will never stop. But my ISP is constantly trying to sell me faster d/l speeds, so why would they want to kill the golden goose? People won't pay for bandwidth when all they can do is surf the web and read emails.

Paul Markham · 09-21-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub

That's right ... because there won't be anything to see. This will have about as much effect as the RIAA and MPAA suing people did. And we all know how that turned out because I sure cannot d/l any music or movies these days.

The only way that pirating will eventually be stopped is if the ISP's stop it. Until they get their act together and start kicking off the downloaders, it will never stop. But my ISP is constantly trying to sell me faster d/l speeds, so why would they want to kill the golden goose? People won't pay for bandwidth when all they can do is surf the web and read emails.

What the RIAA and MPAA did was very costly and gave them bad publicity. This route is less costly and we don't care about the bad press. We had it before this started. LOL

One person, company or organisation won't be enough to curb the. But and it's a big BUT, if what Steve and others are doing proves to not cost or be profitable expect many others to go the same route.

Then downloaders will be looking over their shoulders. I think it will curb a lot of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky

There are quite a few ISPs out there, that are fighting them

A subpoena is just a court order to hand over information. These downloaders are law breakers. You seem to want to keep the information secret. Why is that?

AzteK · 09-21-2010, 02:13 PM

This is just as good as the War On Drugs.

MHK · 09-21-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet."

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Glad to be joining you Steve in the fight to stop those people stealing our content.

Alky · 09-21-2010, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A subpoena is just a court order to hand over information. These downloaders are law breakers. You seem to want to keep the information secret. Why is that?

Where did I say that? All I said is that I think more and more companies will start fighting the subpoenas they are served.

SteveLightspeed · 09-21-2010, 06:23 PM

The ISPs can (and are) charging a lookup fee, some as much as $120 each. That cost will just be passed on to the lawsuit amount or settlement cost. The ISPs will be happy to hire a bunch of clerks to look up names all day every day.

Alky · 09-21-2010, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky

Where did I say that? All I said is that I think more and more companies will start fighting the subpoenas they are served.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/89330/t...rrent-lawsuit/

LeCoq · 09-21-2010, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

DALLAS ? LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online, XBIZ has learned.

The copyright suit seeks damages, as well as attorneys fees. It is being waged by attorney Evan Stone of Denton, Texas.

Really? Am I the only one who noticed the irony here.

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marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	DALLAS — LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online, XBIZ has learned. "It's about time that LFP and the industry go after those who download our content, otherwise you can watch all of your efforts and your profit wither away," LFP Michael Klein told XBIZ. "There's a need [for litigation], and we can make a few dollars along the way." Klein said that LFP has been successful in several litigated cases in Europe, but that the latest suit against 635 John Does would be the first bit torrent suit waged in the U.S. "This is the first suit of many," he said. "And we chose to focus on the particular film because it's a new release, and one that would fall victim to the rampant piracy." The suit, filed at U.S. District Court in Dallas, focuses on those who allegedly downloaded and distributed “Barely Legal School Girls 6" via torrent sites BTJunkie.org, OSOHunt.com, Torrentz.com, TorrentBit.net, ExtraTorrent.com and EvilTorrent.com. The 635 Does named in the suit allegedly downloaded and distributed the video during the period Sept. 2-17. LFP is asking for the court to order the Does' Internet service providers to reveal their identities. The ISPs identified in the suit run the gamut from blue-chip national providers to institutions, including Western New Mexico University and the MidMichigan Medical Center. The copyright suit seeks damages, as well as attorneys fees. It is being waged by attorney Evan Stone of Denton, Texas.

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