"I like the fact that he's gone after porn on the internet"

[rebel23]

Rand Paul, Conway Race for Kentucky Senate Seat
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...84-503544.html

Jack Conway, Kentucky's Attorney General is an enemy of freedom.

Support Rand Paul, a true constitutional conservative

Rand needs your money and help in what is going to be an ugly battle

http://www.randpaul2010.com

[rebel23]

[rebel23]

[rebel23]

Rand needs your help

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by rebel23

cutting the fraud out of medicare would probably save 1 billion

[Naughty-Pages]

10 bucks says his hard drive is loaded with 5TB of gay and crossdresser porn

[rebel23]

remember Kentucky tried to hijack domain names and Jack Conway was attorney general

we really need to see him defeated

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by rebel23

True to his philosophy of slashing government spending, Paul told Fox moderator Chris Wallace that he would vote to raise the retirement age to collect Social Security in full,

right or wrong he just cost himself a huge chunk of the 60+ vote he might of have otherwise gotten. Expect to see anti-Paul AARP ads.

[rebel23]

He wants to raise it for younger people not older people

he actually wants to make it solvent.

[charlie g]

Rand Paul eats fetuses... he's the devil. If you vote for him it's like sucking satan' dick!

paid for by the Jack Conway citizens for better government and RAND PAUL's THE DEVIL coalition.

[spazlabz]

There have been commercials here locally by Jack Conway that is attacking Paul's stand on Social Security. They are really good ads I must say. Bunch of old folks talking about the different things he has said in the past about SS.... yeah, it might be a challenge for him to win over the older Kentuckians. They watch tv they believe what they see and they vote in mid terms

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

There have been commercials here locally by Jack Conway that is attacking Paul's stand on Social Security. They are really good ads I must say. Bunch of old folks talking about the different things he has said in the past about SS.... yeah, it might be a challenge for him to win over the older Kentuckians. They watch tv they believe what they see and they vote in mid terms

Good thing for Rand SATAN Paul that most Kentuckians die before the age of 60 from moonshine and gingivitis. The average life expectancy for a man is 38.

[cwd]

Well, if Rand is good enough for Sarah Palin, he's good enough for...

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by rebel23

I like it

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by rebel23

He wants to raise it for younger people not older people

he actually wants to make it solvent.

Yes I know that. Do you think the AARP cares? AARP help kill the Bush plan to reform social security even though it didn't effect anyone over the age of 55. They successfully scared older people into thinking that Bush was going to cut their benfits. Just like the GOP is convincing old people that Obama is taking away their benfits because he wants to cut $150 billion of medicare even though all $150 billion was WASTE. Which is something the GOP is usually for. Except when they don't get the credit I guess.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by charlie g

Good thing for Rand SATAN Paul that most Kentuckians die before the age of 60 from moonshine and gingivitis. The average life expectancy for a man is 38.

yeah, go driving on a Sunday round these parts and you'll see plenty of white hair and knuckles behind the wheels in traffic... going 10MPH, I swear it feels like central Florida

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Yes I know that. Do you think the AARP cares? AARP help kill the Bush plan to reform social security even though it didn't effect anyone over the age of 55. They successfully scared older people into thinking that Bush was going to cut their benfits. Just like the GOP is convincing old people that Obama is taking away their benfits because he wants to cut $150 billion of medicare even though all $150 billion was WASTE. Which is something the GOP is usually for. Except when they don't get the credit I guess.

go talk to a person on medicare and ask them how their benefits are changing, do you really think it's 150 billion in waste? You trust the government to do that? LMAO

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by charlie g

Rand Paul eats fetuses...

Is he a scientologist??

[deanberkeley]

Quick everyone do a scan of their members database. I bet there are some gems in there.

[Slutboat]

another far right FREAK that wants to outlaw porn.... I love to see people in the porn Biz stick up for the clowns that want to destroy them...

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by charlie g

Rand Paul eats fetuses... he's the devil. If you vote for him it's like sucking satan' dick!

paid for by the Jack Conway citizens for better government and RAND PAUL's THE DEVIL coalition.

Originally Posted by charlie g

Good thing for Rand SATAN Paul that most Kentuckians die before the age of 60 from moonshine and gingivitis. The average life expectancy for a man is 38.

Don't insult Satan like that.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by rebel23

remember Kentucky tried to hijack domain names and Jack Conway was attorney general

we really need to see him defeated

Is this regarding gambling related domains? ... tried to hijack? The state of Kentucky basically already has - it's not over! That case is winding it's way through the courts. According to the latest articles, the owners must physically appear in court to stop the seizures.

http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gam...urt_55761.html

On a related note, eNom (includes most NameCheap customers too, since they're an eNom reseller) has apparently stepped up suspending domains based on accusations alone from a site called LegitScript - NOT court order, but mere accusation is enough to be suspended at eNom / NameCheap.

http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...ins-based.html

And while it's easy to dismiss such suspensions as one-offs, see page 2 of that above thread and the link below - domain registrars are under pressure by the U.S. White House administration to voluntarily suspend domains for numerous reasons.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...ng-sites.shtml

Ron

[rebel23]

thanks Ron. Jack Conway is the Kentucky AG. We can defeat him by supporting Rand Paul who believes in the Constitution, including the First Amendment and the Fourth when he explicitly states he would not have voted for the Patriot Act and rails against unlawful seizures.

Conway in the senate would be tragic.

check out his website:

http://www.randpaul2010.com

If Conway is beaten badly by Rand Paul he will be vulnrable in 2011 to a challenge by Trey Grayson, the current Secretary of State and who Rand defeated in the GOP primary. Domain owners could reach out to Secretary Grayson who I think will run for that office next year.

Change can be actually affected politically if people want it.

[rebel23]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

There have been commercials here locally by Jack Conway that is attacking Paul's stand on Social Security. They are really good ads I must say. Bunch of old folks talking about the different things he has said in the past about SS.... yeah, it might be a challenge for him to win over the older Kentuckians. They watch tv they believe what they see and they vote in mid terms

He is outright lying though in those ads. Rand Paul does not want to cut older folks off what they can get, if you listen to him he says that is unfair and not possible.

what he does say is that the system needs to be solvent and the way to fix it is to change eligibility requirements for younger people and offer higher deductibles or other incentives for medicare

How does Conway plan to fix Social security or medicare? borrowing more money, spending more money, killing more jobs? That is the road to ruin and Rand Paul is courageous enough to stand up and make the argument even when his own party wont.

He has also stated he will bring the U.S Senate to a halt and force them to vote on fixing the mess they have created by raiding Social Security

Kentuckians will see through Conway's lies and cheap politics.

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

yeah, go driving on a Sunday round these parts and you'll see plenty of white hair and knuckles behind the wheels in traffic... going 10MPH, I swear it feels like central Florida

Ya spazlabz, but these are the folk in their early 30's. Chicken fried in lard, hootch made in a bathtub and meth can do that to a body.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

go talk to a person on medicare and ask them how their benefits are changing, do you really think it's 150 billion in waste? You trust the government to do that? LMAO

Oh ok so there is no waste in medicare. Let's just throw money at the system I'm only paying for it. Peoe getign emdicare should STFU they aren't paying for very much of it. It's the yOUNG and WORKING people that pay for the vast majority of it. Most of the money that goes for medicare comes from FICA taxes. Which is a tax that is applies to PAYCHECKS. People on medicare do not get a paycheck.

[baddog]

They have the Internet in KY?

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh ok so there is no waste in medicare. Let's just throw money at the system I'm only paying for it. Peoe getign emdicare should STFU they aren't paying for very much of it. It's the yOUNG and WORKING people that pay for the vast majority of it. Most of the money that goes for medicare comes from FICA taxes. Which is a tax that is applies to PAYCHECKS. People on medicare do not get a paycheck.

Ya, but didn't these old timers pay into the system for 30-50 years before they got OLD? youth in asia, not just for cheap porn content. Put them old fuckers to sleep. Fuck them if they want to be taken care of. Booo fuckin hooo. Big tdeal they paid into the sytem their whole lives... their old and we dont need them...fucking leeches!!!!!

Roll Tide!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh ok so there is no waste in medicare. Let's just throw money at the system I'm only paying for it. Peoe getign emdicare should STFU they aren't paying for very much of it. It's the yOUNG and WORKING people that pay for the vast majority of it. Most of the money that goes for medicare comes from FICA taxes. Which is a tax that is applies to PAYCHECKS. People on medicare do not get a paycheck.

Damn, you are a fucking idiot.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by charlie g

Ya, but didn't these old timers pay into the system for 30-50 years before they got OLD?

Doesn't matter. The money they paid in paid for the old people back then. Your FICA taxes don't go into some account with your name on in and is saved for when you retire. That's not how the system works. CURRENT workers pay for CURRENT retiries. So since I'm paying for grandmas medicare I think I get more of say. Grandma pays in by getting some money deducted from her SS check. Of course that money comes from me too. So I'm actually paying TWICE.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by baddog

Damn, you are a fucking idiot.

You obviously don't have a clue how the system works. Can you at least EXPLAIN your point instead of using insults. Or can't you articluate your point?

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Doesn't matter. The money they paid in paid for the old people back then. Your FICA taxes don't go into some account with your name on in and is saved for when you retire. That's not how the system works. CURRENT workers pay for CURRENT retiries. So since I'm paying for grandmas medicare I think I get more of say. Grandma pays in by getting some money deducted from her SS check. Of course that money comes from me too. So I'm actually paying TWICE.

First thing I would like to say to you is: ROOOLLLLL TIDE!

Second thing is: Go Gatah

Last thing is this, and listen close:We do not live in a democracy. You have no say in how any money is spent by the federal government. The only thing you personally can do, is vote for one of the 2 chimps they ALLOW you to vote for. Now, unless you run for office and win, or someone you are really tight with, you have no say in how much granny gets for her geritol and orthopedic knee highs.

The word of the day is~ OBLIGATION. Google it. We the people, our government, TOOK money from these people to "pay" for the well being of the elderly. The promise, by We the people, was to look after those people when they became elderly. Just as we the people, promise to take care of your sorry ass when you become elderly. Right, wrong it makes no difference. There is an OBLIGATION (see, there' that word again) to take your money and care for the elderly.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by charlie g

First thing I would like to say to you is: ROOOLLLLL TIDE!
Second thing is: Go Gatah
Last thing is this, and listen close:We do not live in a democracy. You have no say in how any money is spent by the federal government. The only thing you personally can do, is vote for one of the 2 chimps they ALLOW you to vote for. Now, unless you run for office and win, or someone you are really tight with, you have no say in how much granny gets for her geritol and orthopedic knee highs. The word of the day is~ OBLIGATION. Google it. We the people, our government, TOOK money from these people to "pay" for the well being of the elderly. The promise, by We the people, was to look after those people when they became elderly. Just as we the people, promise to take care of your sorry ass when you become elderly. Right, wrong it makes no difference. There is an OBLIGATION (see, there' that word again) to take your money and care for the elderly.

You show me the signed GUARANTEE that when I get old I will have Medicare and social security? All I have is a PROMISE which means nothing since the people promising this stuff will be dead or out of power and all the people in power will have to say is "we didn't promise you anything"

The fact is that you can't keeping paying the same benefits in SS and medicare. You are getting more people on SS and medicare and those people are also living longer and we are having fewer workers making fewer dollars. The system can not continue forever as is. So what are you going to do?

Raise retirment age? Breaks promise of getting money at 65( or in my case now 67 )
Reduce benefits? Breaks promise of giving you FULL benefits.
Raise FICA taxes? Great way to not get re-elected. So your opponent accuse you of raising taxes on "hard working" Americans?

So when you say "Just as we the people, promise to take care of your sorry ass when you become elderly" I'll take that with a HUGE grain of salt.

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by GatorB

You show me the signed GUARANTEE that when I get old I will have Medicare and social security? All I have is a PROMISE which means nothing since the people promising this stuff will be dead or out of power and all the people in power will have to say is "we didn't promise you anything"

The fact is that you can't keeping paying the same benefits in SS and medicare. You are getting more people on SS and medicare and those people are also living longer and we are having fewer workers making fewer dollars. The system can not continue forever as is. So what are you going to do?

Raise retirment age? Breaks promise of getting money at 65( or in my case now 67 )
Reduce benefits? Breaks promise of giving you FULL benefits.
Raise FICA taxes? Great way to not get re-elected. So your opponent accuse you of raising taxes on "hard working" Americans?

So when you say "Just as we the people, promise to take care of your sorry ass when you become elderly" I'll take that with a HUGE grain of salt.

So do something about it...quit paying taxes.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh ok so there is no waste in medicare. Let's just throw money at the system I'm only paying for it. Peoe getign emdicare should STFU they aren't paying for very much of it. It's the yOUNG and WORKING people that pay for the vast majority of it. Most of the money that goes for medicare comes from FICA taxes. Which is a tax that is applies to PAYCHECKS. People on medicare do not get a paycheck.

I second baddog's statement, you're a fucking idiot
My statement is that they are taking more than waste and have been raising rates and cutting benefits from the elderly you fucking moron.
Barry taking from the program, or borrowing from Peter to pay Paul doesn't fucking work. The system was set up that when these people were young, they were paying for the old.

But wait a minute, the new healthcare law is ok with you and the medicare isn't, now you are truly showing what a fucking troll you are, people that work are paying for the healthcare of those that don't. I'm just wondering if you could be any more ignorant?

[Slutboat]

[alessergod]

What do you propose as an alternative. Like it or not we will have some portion of the population that need support from someone. The Chilean privitization model that the right likes to echo has been a fucking disaster. The people who rely on it are getting 20-40% of what they were promised. Those who say work harder to make more are fools. Circumstance, education, location, availability of decent paying jobs, etc. all come into the mix. Just look at the situation today. The recession caused unemployment crisis is the perfect example. Thousands of college educated professionals can not find work except at KFC or McDonalds. Thousands more can't find work at all. Many are living off the savings they put away for retirement leaving them no safety net. The Stock Market crash drastically reduced the value of their holdings, so what would they do if there was no social security to fall back on? The Right Wingers harp that as a "Christian Nation" the churches will take up the slack and Compassionate Conservatism will be the savior of us all. If you believe that i can let ya know of some poor asshole that doesn't have a house now because the Compassionate Conservatives let it burn to the ground over $75. The government may not be perfect but it is better than the chaos of no government.