ICANN posts summary/analysis of .xxx comments - GoFuckYourself.com

GeorgeK · 10-23-2010, 11:23 AM

ICANN has posted a summary and analysis of the .xxx public comments:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-rev.../msg00723.html

(the link to the PDF attachment gets randomized every few minutes, so you don't want to link directly to that)

It's a good primer for those who want to get up to speed on the issues, or see if their own comments were summarized properly. I found it amusing that 448 of the 455 comments in favour of .xxx were "webform/standard form submissions" (see the table on page 11).

The next ICANN Board meeting is on October 28:

http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/agenda-28oct10-en.htm

and .xxx is on the agenda (item #8), but ICANN isn't expected to actually do anything until they've received advice from the GAC (i.e. the Governmental Advisory Committee). You can see a list of those GAC members at:

http://gac.icann.org/gac-members

Supposedly a "final" decision will be made at the Catagena meeting in December:

http://cartagena39.icann.org/

but who knows for sure......certainly the losing side will appeal or sue in court.

XPays · 10-23-2010, 01:04 PM

any more comments from Rod Beckstrom?

Machete_ · 10-23-2010, 02:46 PM

Even if the manage to pull it through, no one is gonna use .xxx It's stupid. Just like it was with the .co - all hype.

GeorgeK · 10-23-2010, 02:51 PM

Not to my knowledge. I think the only other "news" out of ICANN was the denial of FSC's request for more information, see:

http://dotxxxopposition.com/2010/10/...-info-request/

http://www.icann.org/en/corresponden...08sep10-en.pdf (initial request)

u-Bob · 10-23-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Machete_

Even if the manage to pull it through, no one is gonna use .xxx It's stupid. Just like it was with the .co - all hype.

sadly, politicians are already talking about making it mandatory for adult content (whatever the definition of adult content may be).

Machete_ · 10-23-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

sadly, politicians are already talking about making it mandatory for adult content (whatever the definition of adult content may be).

nah, there is no way to enforce that.

Ron Bennett · 10-23-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Machete_

nah, there is no way to enforce that.

At the Federal level, probably not. Enforcement via local community standards in various jurisdictions maybe, though that would be a stretch.

However, via corporate policy, .XXX would be a cinch to enforce.

Payment processors, which already enforce all sorts of rules on adult sites, could simply add another rule requiring adult sites to operate completely within a .XXX domain.

If that seems impossible, think again - payment processors already restrict the words that may be used in branding and the domain name, such as Lolita, Lolikon, YoungTeens, etc.

And the search engines could potentially get into the act too requiring adult sites seeking to advertise to be in .XXX, or even more extreme, to even be visible in the default search results.

Ron

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2010, 05:31 AM

Fight the .$$$!

Kolargol · 10-24-2010, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_

nah, there is no way to enforce that.

Especially outside USA

u-Bob · 10-24-2010, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_

nah, there is no way to enforce that.

There are a lot of things governments enforce these days, things people once considered unenforceable...

Davy · 10-24-2010, 10:32 AM

Why would they ask a governmental committee for advice? Seeing what close-minded control-freaks run governments these days, that's not a good idea.

Ron Bennett · 10-24-2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob

There are a lot of things governments enforce these days, things people once considered unenforceable...

Yep, for example, starting in the early 1990s, laws restricting the type of toilets one buy and install in their own home.

http://www.sepp.org/Archive/reality/lowflush.html

And beginning in 2012 regular traditional incandescent light bulbs will no longer be legally available. And sometime between 2014-2020, the restrictions are set to get even tighter with many "exempted" bulbs no longer be allowed either.

http://www.aboutlightingcontrols.org...ergy_law.shtml

Bottom line is the fear of laws requiring using .XXX is well justified - the government already restricts many things / activities that years ago, to reiterate the point the u-Bob makes, seemed improbable.

Never underestimate what the government can do - first assume the worst and then push back (ie. write comments to ICANN, etc) / plan accordingly (ie. be prepared to move into .xxx, if it comes to pass).

Ron

u-Bob · 10-24-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

push back (ie. write comments to ICANN, etc)

Don't forget to post on every domaining blog or forum out there. On mosts blogs you don't need to register to comment. Leaving a small comment about how you are part of the adult industry and don't like the .xxx tld will only take a minute of one's time, but will do a lot to spread the message.

Don't go silently into the night!

Cyber Fucker · 10-24-2010, 02:24 PM

ICANN = Greed

Redrob · 10-25-2010, 08:08 AM

Judging from the comments, I perceive a credibility problem for ICM.

u-Bob · 10-25-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

Judging from the comments, I perceive a credibility problem for ICM.

95+% of the "yes go ahead"-votes came from their servers... That should tell ICANN enough...

10-23-2010, 11:23 AM	#1
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	ICANN posts summary/analysis of .xxx comments ICANN has posted a summary and analysis of the .xxx public comments: http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-rev.../msg00723.html (the link to the PDF attachment gets randomized every few minutes, so you don't want to link directly to that) It's a good primer for those who want to get up to speed on the issues, or see if their own comments were summarized properly. I found it amusing that 448 of the 455 comments in favour of .xxx were "webform/standard form submissions" (see the table on page 11). The next ICANN Board meeting is on October 28: http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/agenda-28oct10-en.htm and .xxx is on the agenda (item #8), but ICANN isn't expected to actually do anything until they've received advice from the GAC (i.e. the Governmental Advisory Committee). You can see a list of those GAC members at: http://gac.icann.org/gac-members Supposedly a "final" decision will be made at the Catagena meeting in December: http://cartagena39.icann.org/ but who knows for sure......certainly the losing side will appeal or sue in court. __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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10-23-2010, 02:51 PM	#4
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	Not to my knowledge. I think the only other "news" out of ICANN was the denial of FSC's request for more information, see: http://dotxxxopposition.com/2010/10/...-info-request/ http://www.icann.org/en/corresponden...08sep10-en.pdf (initial request) __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

10-24-2010, 10:32 AM	#11
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	Why would they ask a governmental committee for advice? Seeing what close-minded control-freaks run governments these days, that's not a good idea. __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

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10-23-2010, 02:46 PM	#3
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	Even if the manage to pull it through, no one is gonna use .xxx It's stupid. Just like it was with the .co - all hype.

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10-25-2010, 08:08 AM	#15
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