Anyone have problems with Live Cam Cash?

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Anyone have any problems with Live Cam Cash? I started asking when I was going to get paid, and now I get an e-mail stating that my account has been disabled. Ummm, for what? Promoting your girls and making YOU some money? What a joke!

All I know is Abby doesn't like a web-master that I am friends with and work with. A month ago Derek e-mailed me checking to see if my e-mail worked because the address I had listed was a gmail account. I responded quickly stating that it was really my e-mail and worked. He responded back the same day asking me what sites I owned/promoted the girls on. I told him (most of them happen to be owned by the web-master Abby doesn't like) and I also decided to ask him why I hadn't been paid. I knew as soon as I mentioned those sites and didn't get a response within the next couple of days I'd probably never get that money. Well, I never did get a response and a month later look at where I am at.

I e-mailed both Abby and Derek this morning asking why my account was disabled and have not gotten a response.

NOT a good way to do business.

If you promote Live Cam Cash, be careful before you get screwed too!

[stocktrader23]

Fuck you, pay notaprncssnemore.

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Stocktrader23: Thanks! That's what I'm saying.

[stocktrader23]

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

No one else has had any bad dealings with them?

[easyBob]

I also work for said webmaster, and also promote on the side. My account with them doesn't seem to be working now either.

I have no idea why, I don't know what the beef is, but it's pretty low to cut of someone like that. Business is business, make your money, pay your people, and it doesn't matter if you like them or not.

From my POV, the person(s) running the program is off their rocker. Careful if you promote them.

-Chris

[jscott]

I hitup Dwreck, waiting to hear back what he says

[Dwreck]

NotaPrncssNeMore,

The reason I emailed you to confirm it the email address was correct was because looked questionable from the start. I had a bad feeling in my gut and had to confirm with Abbie, if I was correct. Looks like I was you guys have a long and complicated history. NotaPrncssNeMore, you have my icq and email why would you run to GFY after 24 hours if you didn't have a personal agenda?

Let's stick to the Facts

1) You have illegal content post of our models

2) Your site owner has been trying to recruit those very same models to work under him.

Both are grounds for termination and this is an clear attempt to dis credit our program. For future reference rounding up the troops to slander us and insulting the CEO who controls payment isn't always the best method of getting paid. Its like you knew this would happen so to why not make a thread about it. I make every attempt to be online for my affiliates 24/7 and you could have talked to me and worked this out. You choose not too.

NotaPrncssNeMore you have some nice sites and your a skilled webmaster unfortunately we can't work together. Good Luck!

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Dwreck

NotaPrncssNeMore,

The reason I emailed you to confirm it the email address was correct was because looked questionable from the start. I had a bad feeling in my gut and had to confirm with Abbie, if I was correct. Looks like I was you guys have a long and complicated history. NotaPrncssNeMore, you have my icq and email why would you run to GFY after 24 hours if you didn't have a personal agenda?

Let's stick to the Facts

1) You have illegal content post of our models

2) Your site owner has been trying to recruit those very same models to work under him.

Both are grounds for termination and this is an clear attempt to dis credit our program. For future reference rounding up the troops to slander us and insulting the CEO who controls payment isn't always the best method of getting paid. Its like you knew this would happen so to why not make a thread about it. I make every attempt to be online for my affiliates 24/7 and you could have talked to me and worked this out. You choose not too.

NotaPrncssNeMore you have some nice sites and your a skilled webmaster unfortunately we can't work together. Good Luck!

Dwreck, I heard you have a small penis.

I have posted as much proof in regards to this as you have about a the OP trying to steal models and posting illegal content.

What is illegal content anyhow?

[st0ned]

I just started working with them within the past month, Dwreck has been very helpful. No problems to speak of at this point.

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Excuse me, but what illegal content posts did I have up?

You want to stick to the facts? Great, I'd love to!

1. I only had a few galleries up of each model, all pics were taken from inside the promo area of Live Cam Cash. How was any of it illegal? When I have posted content webmasters didn't want up, they kindly contacted me and asked for it to be removed. And it was- ASAP. Just ask Spunky.

2. I have NOTHING to do with trying to recruit any of your models or whatever you are accusing my friend of doing, so why punish me? Especially without any warning. How does that seem right to you? I promoted your girls, on sites owned by him and also by myself. It was MY NATS account, my galleries that I made. I earned that money. I sure as heck hope I am paid it.

3. I have e-mailed you and messaged through the site a few times about payment and NEVER ever gotten a reply. This is good business to you? After I told you what sites I promoted from you couldn't have gotten back to me that you were going to have to terminate my account because Abbie doesn't like who I work with, or whatever other reasons you supposedly have? I'm sorry I don't like running to instant messenger and getting messaged by a million people. I like e-mail. I e-mailed you, you didn't reply. So much for being there for your affiliates.

I did not EVER in a million years think that some webmaster, affiliate manager, or CEO (whatever Abbie is) would NOT let an affiliate promote their girls because of a personal issue that webmaster had with someone else the affiliate works with. That is ridiculous and you better believe I would never have wasted my time promoting your girls if I honestly thought this would happen.

Also, I even told people to sign up and promote your sites and this is what I get? All because someone has a grudge on someone I work with?

Let's stick to the facts. I was just trying to be a good affiliate. I was never warned I was doing anything wrong and it took you how many pay periods to decide that you should terminate my account? Please. Next time you want to terminate someone's account I sure hope you give them some warning or explanation. Not just some auto looking e-mail stating their account has been terminated with no reason given.

I'm not trying to slander anyone. I am telling people how your company dealt with me. Everything I said is true. If any of this discredits your company it is not my fault. You chose to handle me how you did and it sucks and was not very professional. If Abbie isn't going to let people promote her sites, after promoting them for months and making you guys some money all because of a personal grudge, everyone should know.

Maybe you guys should post a list of everyone not allowed to promote Live Cam Cash sites. Put it in your TOS.

Next time I will listen when people warn me about a webmaster, especially when it comes from multiple webmasters. When will I ever learn my lesson?

[Roald]

Even though Dwreck is a douche we never had any issues with them at all.

[easyBob]

His answer doesn't explain why my account was shut off.

Illegal content of his models? Nope, only got what was available through their promo site.
Trying to steal their models? Nope, I don't do that side of the biz (I don't run paysites).

So far, he seems to be flat out yanking everyones chain.

-Chris

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Originally Posted by easyBob

His answer doesn't explain why my account was shut off.

Illegal content of his models? Nope, only got what was available through their promo site.
Trying to steal their models? Nope, I don't do that side of the biz (I don't run paysites).

So far, he seems to be flat out yanking everyones chain.

-Chris

I guess because you just know him? You're probably guilty by association. It makes complete business sense. No? Did you get an e-mail stating your account was terminated?

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Originally Posted by Roald

Even though Dwreck is a douche we never had any issues with them at all.

lol Lucky you. Why must I be so unlucky?

[Mutt]

Remik from NNConnect has had problems with them.

how preposterous for them to have a problem with Doug over model poaching when their two models were poached from IHeartBucks.

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Mutt, you bring up a great point! Too funny.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Remik from NNConnect has had problems with them.

how preposterous for them to have a problem with Doug over model poaching when their two models were poached from IHeartBucks.

IF YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE IN YOUR PROGRAM, GOOD FOR YOU. HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD PAY THE MOTHERFUCKER HIS MONEY BEFORE PULLING THE PLUG.

[timlover]

I agree. I have been adding programs to my sites and I actually came across the livecamsites as I was working on the IheartBucks stuff. I didn't know they had new sites. So it has been on my list to signup and promote.

However; after reading the comments and rest assured I'm no blind sheep that just bahas and shits wherever the idiot with the bell tells me to go...

I don't like hearing about people not paying affiliates. If you don't want them in your program thats fine. But don't fall back on some BS TOS arguement that justifies you keeping their money and their rebills. There are probably hundreds of severe TOS infractions that are worthy of terminating an account. Hacking sites, forced installs, credit card fraud. That I understand. But saying you have some illegal content or somebody has been trying to recruit your models....is a fucking joke of an excuse and thats about as clear as day.

Pay them their money. Be proffesional. Terminate/suspend their account. Make sure they get their rebills. Move on with your business on both sides.

Seriously, there is almost no valid reason not to pay an affiliate outside of blatent credit card fraud. Keeping their money is a fucking shady jack move and all it serves to do is lower your reputation and make you knowm as somebody who can't remain professional when business problems arise.

[easyBob]

Originally Posted by NotaPrncssNeMore

I guess because you just know him? You're probably guilty by association. It makes complete business sense. No? Did you get an e-mail stating your account was terminated?

I just checked my email, and yes, they did email me saying my account was disabled. This is obviously a guilt by association thing.

Oh well, not like they had a lot of promo stuff anyways, took about 5 min to remove it all from my sites. No more traffic for them. Both Violet and Gisele sold 10x better under IHeartBucks...I still pick up sales for their IHeartBabes sets [sweetsauce].

-Chris

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by Dwreck

NotaPrncssNeMore you have some nice sites and your a skilled webmaster unfortunately we can't work together. Good Luck!

Sounds like the decission not to work with these peeps is a personal one. No reason not to pay them for the work they did while you were accepting their traffic. If they made you money and sent you legit sales you should square up with them.



Listen to Teddy KGB... Pay dat man his mahney!

[Abbie]

First of all, she doesn't even own the site(s) the affiliate links were on, as she admitted. They are owned by a webmaster PREVIOUSLY BANNED and told quite clearly we want not affiliation w/ him or his sites due to his attempts at recruiting models as well as using content from the member's areas. So then he has Cass create an account within a couple days for use on those same sites he had already been banned as an affiliate from ... up until that, I had no clue who Cass etc even was. All I know is that they were sneaky in their tactics and got caught. They knew full well we didn't want to work with them, thus the previous ban.

I have no issue with Cass at all, I do have an issue w/ the owner of those sites for reasons stated above. Notice he's not even in this thread because he knows full well he's been in hot water w/ us for awhile. It just sucks he used Cass as his pawn.

Cass, I have no problem seeing that you get paid nor do I have a problem with you being an affiliate using your own sites (not his), I don't even know you. I do have a problem with that webmaster who's sites you used (and was previously banned by us) using you to try and get around his ban.

I really have nothing else to say on the matter and you are more than welcome to email me directly (I've never ever seen an email from you) at onhercam at gmail dot com.

[stocktrader23]

1 down, 50,000 to go.

You are ready to pay him now but Dwreck said the exact opposite then scampered away. Just pay, then disallow whoever you want.

[Abbie]

Honestly, since it was an attempt to get past the previous ban, I was tempted not to pay, but I kinda feel like she got suckered by that webmaster (as I'm sure he gave a wonderful story), I'll do the nice thing.

Anyway, I really have nothing else to offer here.

[easyBob]

That still doesn't explain why you disabled my account. And the webmaster you say suckered her, actually recommended I stay away from promoting your sites.

I didn't care why a model went where and was on whoevers side...I wanted to make some $$.

Stop making crazy shit up. You canned our accounts because you can't control your emotions. Just pay Cass what you owe her, and we can all go our separate ways.

-Chris

[timlover]

sometime when I read arguements like this on GFY or NNMasters. I think..."We are talking about refusing legitimate sales during hard times"

Convictions are great, but honestly. I'd take sales from somebody I disliked or argued with and laugh all the way to the bank. The alternative, them sending it to somebody else is less appealing.

Then I think about how long I have been in the business and seen people who when they started out making tons of money being very picky and then later on desperate for any kind of promotion to their sites.

My advice to all, don't let your convictions or present success fool you into thinking its always going to last. You're here to make money. Not work on your convictions. Save that for church. Never turn down legit sales

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Abbie, I can promise you he even warned me not to promote your sites. I'm just a little fish compared to him. He always has a million sites to make galleries from, so when I saw he wasn't promoting yours I got excited and decided I'd try it anyways and not worry about his personal problems with you especially because he was promoting Phil-Flash sites... Someone I have a huge personal problem with Anyways... My codes are mine and whatever I make from them is mine. I have control of what I want to promote on 88gals and sweetassgirls. If Doug wanted to use me as a pawn to promote your sites for him I would have been promoting them on yourdailygirls.com too because that site is the money maker. However, he has final say on who we promote on that one, hence, none of your sites are on there.

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

Also, I'm pretty sure he never signed up for your program and used members content because I would have seen iit. He never promoted live cam cash sites.

[Abbie]

He did have an LCC account. He can deny it all he wants. It would be in poor taste for me to screen shot his acct but if he needs a "reminder" he is more than welcome to request those directly I don't make it a habit to provide our affiliate's info publicaly but I'm sure anyone on my staff can confirm it.

He even made a customer acct on OHC and went into the girls' rooms in attempts to recruit (we have the logs) etc. But I'm sure he denies it all. It has all his info etc.

I'm not going to get into a pisisng match nor waste my time on the subject. cass you are welcome to contact me directly.

Everyone else enjoy your evening

[NotaPrncssNeMore]

I will. Thank you.

[Marquis85]

I just came in here to say that I've emailed Dwreck because I haven't received payment (been a month now..) so I hope everything is fine. Hoping to hear back from you Dwreck.