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Old 10-29-2010, 03:05 PM   #1
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ePassporte Lawsuit Get In To Get Your Money

Hello,
Some guys here reported getting money from epass wallet using an attorney office in Curacao.

As the story goes, you contact the attorney, attorney contacts epass and in within 7-10 they wire the attorney your funds. Attorney keeps their rate - 20% (and that is a huge fee!), and than wires your remaining wallet funds.

Here is the link to the attorney's website, you can even call them: http://zlattorneys.com/
After doing some research, the guy ([email protected]) and the firm seem legit.

You can contact them, and see what they say, but as they told me and to some other guys, they will only drop the fee if we are a big group.

So I talked with some other guys with funds stuck in epass wallet (we are 4 at the moment), and started gathering more people so we'll get a better rate from the lawyer.

I DO NOT GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET YOUR MONEY IF YOU DO THIS! But the way I see it you will only risk more if you lay back and do nothing!

If you want to enroll, just mail me in3sting gmail, icq 498 560 806, or pm me.

Again, I have nothing to do with the lawyer, I just contacted him as a possible client, as we'll all do as a group pretty soon! The sooner the better!

Will post some of their (zlattorneys.com) answers to my questions.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:13 PM   #2
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As the story goes, you contact the attorney, attorney contacts epass and in within 7-10 they wire the attorney your funds. Attorney keeps their rate - 20% (and that is a huge fee!), and than wires your remaining wallet funds.

Here is the link to the attorney's website, you can even call them: http://zlattorneys.com/
After doing some research, the guy ([email protected]) and the firm seem legit.

You can contact them, and see what they say, but as they told me and to some other guys, they will only drop the fee if we are a big group.

So I talked with some other guys with funds stuck in epass wallet (we are 4 at the moment), and started gathering more people so we'll get a better rate from the lawyer.
I'm in, pending that we can negotiate a better rate. We must deal with the "up front" fees portion and come to an agreement by approx. Monday Nov. 1st.

I did also notice that epassporte entry at Curacao Chamber commerce has removed the "dissolved" status.

This is curious.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:33 PM   #3
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well sounds like a way to get my 3k out of there. lets see how this goes.

mail me how i can participate.
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Old 10-29-2010, 05:03 PM   #4
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All these groups lawyering up should group up and then you'll all be something really serious.
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:13 AM   #5
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good luck guys!
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:38 AM   #6
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Wasnt choker doing the same thing? What happend to that?
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:30 AM   #7
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good thing I left epass at the right time
i hope yuo guys get your money back
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:14 AM   #8
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No, we don't need to pay upfront!

Here's a quote from one of Daniel's answers:

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We work on a percentage basis of 20% of the funds that we collect for you. We will deduct these funds AFTER we have collected the funds for you. We will transfer the remaining funds into your account.
Those who contacted me or who want to participate, think of a way to get all together on a chat room meeting or something. If not, mail me to in3sting gmail. I will send an email with cc with what you need, they don't ask for too much info in the beginning.

Like TylerBang said, I want to get started on Monday 1st of Nov, so stand by for info and get others you might know with money in epass in here!
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:17 AM   #9
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This is how it's gonna fold out: the lawyer's will take your cash and not do shit.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:26 AM   #10
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epassporte is not dissolved anymore : http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

everybody will have his money.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:45 AM   #11
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epassporte is not dissolved anymore : http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

everybody will have his money.
yea right! I prefer to pay 10-20% of my money stuck in epass than just sit and wait. But that's just me.


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This is how it's gonna fold out: the lawyer's will take your cash and not do shit.
Attorney Daniel:

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Another point: if we do not get your funds back, we do not get anything either! This makes us ?partners? in your case. Therefore you can be assured that we will everything possible to get your funds released.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:52 AM   #12
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those assholes keep telling me my card is ok to pull out the money... fucking wasting my time because THREE TIMES now it hasn't worked when they tell me this bullshit.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:55 AM   #13
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those assholes keep telling me my card is ok to pull out the money... fucking wasting my time because THREE TIMES now it hasn't worked when they tell me this bullshit.
That sucks.


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Old 10-30-2010, 07:25 AM   #14
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This is how it's gonna fold out: the lawyer's will take your cash and not do shit.
Yep.....
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:45 AM   #15
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yea right! I prefer to pay 10-20% of my money stuck in epass than just sit and wait. But that's just me.
I was successful with the same initiative, don't give up I support you at 100%
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:51 AM   #16
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I have heard from few people that got their money thru this guy. Sounds like real deal to me.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:32 AM   #17
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Wasnt choker doing the same thing? What happend to that?
Choker is not going to do anything. For him, it's most important to have a link to his traffic stuff on the lawsuit website.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:39 PM   #18
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This is how it's gonna fold out: the lawyer's will take your cash and not do shit.
Please post a link to the negative info you have on them?

Anyone who has any negative info on ZL please post it.

Thanks.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:40 PM   #19
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Yep.....

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Please post a link to the negative info you have on ZL?

We would like to review it.

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Old 10-31-2010, 06:02 AM   #20
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so are you all 100% going for it or yet to decide?
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:51 AM   #21
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Would be nice for more info. Although that fee is steep, I'd be willing to pay it to recover the money I have sitting in the wallet, since these assholes still have not marked any documents as received.
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this sounds to me like bunch of crows trying to make money from the corpse of epass. i wouldn't count much on them, what they can offer you is some dog barks on epass and If epass decides to send them their middle fingers in return, it will be very hard to continue this in court, since screenshots of your balance wont stand as evidence .
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:48 AM   #23
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Old 10-31-2010, 01:07 PM   #24
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Who contacte me via ICQ, please shoot an email at in3sting gmail, so I can get you all the info!
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i sent mail to [email protected] without any answer from him..
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:00 AM   #27
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epassporte is not dissolved anymore : http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

everybody will have his money.
Awesome site!

1) the capital is set as $30000. So I say about 10 people will see money from epass - the rest gets nothing.

2) Making revenue from motion pictures was actually in epassporte's company description? Yuk!
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some one put me on that list, i would like to see if it works.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:25 AM   #29
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So.. in all of this crap, no one ever asks the questions that matter or explains the details of how/why money is recoverable, what that process is exactly and how/why the law can hold Mallick accountable for anything.

All i see is a guy hiding behind a bunch of offshore companies, surely he's well insulated from any direct liability and everyone is talking about recovering money from a company that no longer exists.

This biz is full of retards.
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So.. in all of this crap, no one ever asks the questions that matter or explains the details of how/why money is recoverable, what that process is exactly and how/why the law can hold Mallick accountable for anything.
Yes, there was a thread I started on this subject https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=993364

The basic gist is that ePassporte wont have the funds to pay everyone out because they speculated on most of the money.
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Yes, there was a thread I started on this subject https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=993364

The basic gist is that ePassporte wont have the funds to pay everyone out because they speculated on most of the money.
No, you offered some entertaining speculation as to what might have happened. I am talking about the law and the constant chanting to sue someone.

1) On what grounds can Chris Mallick be PERSONALLY sued? (for the GFY Idiots "I'm angry" is not legal grounds that establishes personal wrong doing by Chris - no matter how much you want to believe it is)

2) WHY does anyone believe that Epass money is recoverable when Epass itself already does not exist?

3) What is the mechanism to recover Epass funds?

4) Where are Epass funds located?

5) Assuming you have answers to any of the above, what law gives you the right to claim any money?

Who gets sued and for what exactly? In what jurisdiction, under what laws? Why/How is money recoverable?
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and BTW... the thread title as with Chokers ranting is about a lawsuit. Yet there is no explanation as to who gets sued, under what laws, in what jurisdiction and how/why money is recoverable. I mean, this is super obvious stuff that gets answered first.. but as usual, in this biz, idiots start backwards with hysteria, dysfunction, poor planning, bizarre assumptions and complete and total disorganization and work forwards to failure.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:03 PM   #34
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They will find a way to pay up, or atleast, pick and choose who they think they can get away with not paying, and who is worth paying.

if the suits behind it want to hold onto any credibility they may have left, that is.


If they're ready to give up whats left of their credibility, they and everyone around em will have to live amongst thousands of enraged not-so-sane people that they owe money too

Considering all the money this guy throws around, he should be able to find a way to settle this and hopefully we'll see our money.

forget lawsuits, this is the only hope at this point
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this sounds to me like bunch of crows trying to make money from the corpse of epass. i wouldn't count much on them, what they can offer you is some dog barks on epass and If epass decides to send them their middle fingers in return, it will be very hard to continue this in court, since screenshots of your balance wont stand as evidence .
Total bullshit. Epassporte still shows every user his balance.
You may want to take screenshots as evidence. But if you were in court right now, you would not even need screenshots.
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No, you offered some entertaining speculation as to what might have happened. I am talking about the law and the constant chanting to sue someone.

1) On what grounds can Chris Mallick be PERSONALLY sued? (for the GFY Idiots "I'm angry" is not legal grounds that establishes personal wrong doing by Chris - no matter how much you want to believe it is)

2) WHY does anyone believe that Epass money is recoverable when Epass itself already does not exist?

3) What is the mechanism to recover Epass funds?

4) Where are Epass funds located?

5) Assuming you have answers to any of the above, what law gives you the right to claim any money?

Who gets sued and for what exactly? In what jurisdiction, under what laws? Why/How is money recoverable?

Here are the answers from the Attorney

1) Why do you believe that Epass money is recoverable when Epass itself already does not exist?

RESPONSE D.Z.: Your assumption that Epassporte does not exist is not correct. Epassporte is still active, the question is how long Epassporte will be active. If Epassporte will go bankrupt, then it is likely that account holders will not be able to retrieve their funds.

2) What is the mechanism to recover Epass funds? Who gets sued and for what exactly? In what jurisdiction, under what laws?

RESPONSE D.Z.: Epassporte is located in Curaçao. The bank where Epassporte holds an account (United International Bank) is also located in Curaçao. Our law firm is also located in Curaçao. Account holders have entered into agreements with Epassporte, a Curaçao company. This makes that Curaçao law is applicable to this case.

3) Where are Epass funds located?
RESPONSE D.Z.: see my answer above.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:58 PM   #37
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I am working with this firm. I can only say good things about them so far.
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Here are the answers from the Attorney

1) Why do you believe that Epass money is recoverable when Epass itself already does not exist?

RESPONSE D.Z.: Your assumption that Epassporte does not exist is not correct. Epassporte is still active, the question is how long Epassporte will be active. If Epassporte will go bankrupt, then it is likely that account holders will not be able to retrieve their funds.

2) What is the mechanism to recover Epass funds? Who gets sued and for what exactly? In what jurisdiction, under what laws?

RESPONSE D.Z.: Epassporte is located in Curaçao. The bank where Epassporte holds an account (United International Bank) is also located in Curaçao. Our law firm is also located in Curaçao. Account holders have entered into agreements with Epassporte, a Curaçao company. This makes that Curaçao law is applicable to this case.

3) Where are Epass funds located?
RESPONSE D.Z.: see my answer above.
That sounds promising. Good luck.
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Here are the answers from the Attorney

1) Why do you believe that Epass money is recoverable when Epass itself already does not exist?

RESPONSE D.Z.: Your assumption that Epassporte does not exist is not correct. Epassporte is still active, the question is how long Epassporte will be active. If Epassporte will go bankrupt, then it is likely that account holders will not be able to retrieve their funds.

2) What is the mechanism to recover Epass funds? Who gets sued and for what exactly? In what jurisdiction, under what laws?

RESPONSE D.Z.: Epassporte is located in Curaçao. The bank where Epassporte holds an account (United International Bank) is also located in Curaçao. Our law firm is also located in Curaçao. Account holders have entered into agreements with Epassporte, a Curaçao company. This makes that Curaçao law is applicable to this case.

3) Where are Epass funds located?
RESPONSE D.Z.: see my answer above.
HA! Nice!!

Very cool.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:02 PM   #40
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Hope all people recover their funds.
If people do nothing waiting for an ePass wire, Im sure they will lost funds. at least there is a hope.
If this firm doesnt charge anything UNLESS they recover peoples funds, what are they losing?
I prefer loss 20% than 100%
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What's going on with Daniel guys ?
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I thought epass money was in SKNANB bank, im confused now...
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I thought epass money was in SKNANB bank, im confused now...
SKNANB bank => Visa funds
United International Bank N.V. => Wallet funds

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