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Old 01-05-2018, 04:11 PM   #301
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Still no answers back going close to a $300 babe now. Emails go unanswered and don't think Crystal is allowed to answer back.
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Mike answers and forwards me to Crystal, but nothing from her
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:55 AM   #303
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I can't speak for anyone else, but NA has paid us. There's been a little lapse at times and I've reached out to them. Scott has been quiet for a little while, but Mike has always replied.

Personally, I'd love to see them get back on track because they've been such a great affiliate program for so many years that it'd be a shame to see it get tarnished. And while they're at it, bandwidth is much cheaper now so they should bring back "Ask Lauren" and the live streaming channels. Their production was better than any tube site.

Hope everyone gets settled up.
I think the fact that they are paying some like you, even regularly, and others have over $xx,xxx owed since 6 months or more is what annoys people.

I'd love to see them get back on track too, because they are an innovative company and were one of the first to produce 4K and then VR. I read an article in I think Forbes yesterday where the Information Officer was saying they are going to jump on AR (Augmented Reality). Good luck to them, but I think they'll need affiliates to help them with that. The webmaster of VRPorn.com, which is number 1 on Google for 'VR Porn' and likely to remain so, was complaining a few posts back of being owed thousands. I don't even understand the thinking behind that on their part.
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if they stopped paying why the fuck is nats still running??? they are getting paid right?
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Lol yeah but since they had their bank accounts screwed a few months ago their affiliate payments went to shit. I get a 2 week delay but I've got November stuff still pending. Make daily content but don't pay affoliates who send you that traffic. Just a rant
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Lol yeah but since they had their bank accounts screwed a few months ago their affiliate payments went to shit. I get a 2 week delay but I've got November stuff still pending. Make daily content but don't pay affoliates who send you that traffic. Just a rant
this shit has been going on for 2 years now, know someone who's been trying to get paid for that long, it took me once 8 months to get paid
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Same thing is happening to me sadly. I have emailed Mike a ton of times, he directs me to Crystal, I sent the emails to Crystal and got nothing back. What can i do????
I cant believe they dont pay anymore.... Naughty America has built a good reputation and a brand in American porn...
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I cant believe they dont pay anymore.... Naughty America has built a good reputation and a brand in American porn...
They have NEVER had a good reputation. They are the biggest scammers in the industry.
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They have NEVER had a good reputation. They are the biggest scammers in the industry.
i was always paid on time by them for years....

now i see im not the only one having late payments from 2017 on+....
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I think the fact that they are paying some like you, even regularly, and others have over $xx,xxx owed since 6 months or more is what annoys people.
I can absolutely understand that. Certainly, it's not anything I can explain either. FWIW, that earlier time was the last time we were paid as well, so several months ago. To be fair, I've also not contacted them about the current outstanding payment yet, so it's entirely possible that our next experience may not be as productive. That said, they've never given me a reason to doubt payment was forthcoming. Hopefully they get caught up with everyone.
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Gotta be a cash flow thing yet they have new releases daily. Pay the talent of course. Lol
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Gotta be a cash flow thing yet they have new releases daily. Pay the talent of course. Lol

It would be great if someone from Naughty America checks this thread again
and give us some insight, i think the same, they keep updating the sites and
releasing new material, is a high quality network of sites, something is happening
there with the support and attention to the affiliates i guess... but silence about
the subject doesnt help... it simply fuels more rumours....
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:58 PM   #315
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Mike, Scott, Crystal? Anyone at NA?
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:16 PM   #316
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Still no answers back going close to a $300 babe now. Emails go unanswered and don't think Crystal is allowed to answer back.
Same situation here... im trying to get a reply to get paid u$ 600 generated in sales
at NTA sites, i tried via icq, skype, and email... without luck yet....
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crystal is the only one there in accounting and mike sends her emails and it goes nowhere. she used to reply back and was very sweet. something tells me she isn't allowed to talk to affiliates anymore about checks.
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crystal is the only one there in accounting and mike sends her emails and it goes nowhere. she used to reply back and was very sweet. something tells me she isn't allowed to talk to affiliates anymore about checks.

Does he work with NTA?
I have seen he saw this thread and did reply to you, and he was online
some days ago:

http://gfy.com/members/naughtyjohnson/
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Dunno. Just a bunch of emails that get forwarded on. Used to get paid but not recently. Good content just bad backend
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They owe us money also. In the past they responded and always paid after a few emails.

Now they've stopped responding altogether.
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Well, you can add FreeOnes to the thread. We have to stay on top of it, but we get paid however back in August Crystal stopped responding and well, here we are.

$xx,xxx and growing owed to us...
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Well, you can add FreeOnes to the thread. We have to stay on top of it, but we get paid however back in August Crystal stopped responding and well, here we are.

$xx,xxx and growing owed to us...
Ouch.. Seems we can all wave goodbye to our money.. Hope you all have pulled links
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Ouch.. Seems we can all wave goodbye to our money.. Hope you all have pulled links
I wonder how much they spent (of our money) on their CES booth last week?

https://venturebeat.com/2018/01/15/n...h-a-porn-star/

There was supposed to be a class action taken against them by webmasters owed money around a year ago - I guess nothing came of that.
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I wonder how much they spent (of our money) on their CES booth last week?

https://venturebeat.com/2018/01/15/n...h-a-porn-star/

There was supposed to be a class action taken against them by webmasters owed money around a year ago - I guess nothing came of that.
Shame they had to try and branch off into other areas off the backs of their partners. The signs are pretty clear to me, and the fact that anyone still pushes them does surprise me. I mean when not even Petra can get a reply in 5 months.
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Well, you can add FreeOnes to the thread. We have to stay on top of it, but we get paid however back in August Crystal stopped responding and well, here we are.

$xx,xxx and growing owed to us...
Pull links, Petra ...
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owing more than $2k - after a final email two days ago and without a reply, I finally pulled links today
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Shame they had to try and branch off into other areas off the backs of their partners. The signs are pretty clear to me, and the fact that anyone still pushes them does surprise me. I mean when not even Petra can get a reply in 5 months.
even if you pull links, you are still owed your rebills if you're on revshare, I can imagine in FreeOnes' case that could be substantial
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Got a reply from Mike today. Will see
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Got a reply from Mike today. Will see
Same bs, wait for him to say he will "pass you on to Crystal" LMAO

Does anyone have membership access to Naughty America? I was thinking it would be a shame if their full videos end up on tubes. I have some grunt workers not doing anything at the moment
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It seems like almost no one is getting paid now. Gotta wonder... where is our money going? At least before they seemed to pay affiliates in a ponzi scheme style method. Lol
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It seems like almost no one is getting paid now. Gotta wonder... where is our money going? At least before they seemed to pay affiliates in a ponzi scheme style method. Lol
It's obvious where the money is going. Here is how the scam works,

1. Get affiliates to drive customers to their site buying memberships.

2. Screw the affiliates

3. Use the money from screwing the affiliates to hire talent to shoot more scenes.

Rinse and repeat.

It's a perfect business model for scammers. They never spend a dime on of their "own money" as the affiliates money is the one that allows them to keep hiring talent to shoot more scenes and pay for production costs.

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I have received an email from: Joe Johnson / Accounting / Hronopoulos, Inc.

saying he will talk to Crystal to send me the money they owe me finally, in a few days.

So... well, I hope is true this time and is not like the Mike mails about contacting Crystal.

Will keep posted.

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I have an account there but never promoted them. Still receive their emails with promo material.
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They were la tourine inc or something like that. Good luck on updates. Yeah Mike emails don't mean much unless the money is sent.
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This is a major issue with a few programs I've had to pull links for.... the rebills keep coming so what started as a couple hundred spiraled into a couple thousand. Times a lot for NA.
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Update:

I have received two more mails from Joe Johnson (Accounting Hronopoulos, Inc.)
assuring me that Crystal will be sending me the payment.
Then a few more days passed. Until this moment no payment has arrived.

The good news is that now im getting a reply to the emails.
The bad news is that the $ has not been paid, yet. I still dont lose the hope.

Thats it.
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What a mess ... Hope everyone gets paid.
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Starting to give up. Mikeís email about being out of town seems odd and him saying they will catch up on the next cycle makes little hope. Will see. It rebuild but when u have to chase down payments itís a lost effort.
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I also got an email to be "added for the next round". But I won't add their sites anywhere again until I get my money.
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It's a scam guys. Mike is playing the follow me with a carrot on a stick trick hoping you guys keep your links up so he can scam you more. The whole "out of town" is BS when he supposedly has his make believe whore "Crystal" in accounting. Now he has "Joe Johnson". Last year he had "Rob Johnson" I kid you not. Naughty America is a SCAM. The sooner you guys come to grips about it and pull your links, the better off you will be...
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It's a scam guys. Mike is playing the follow me with a carrot on a stick trick hoping you guys keep your links up so he can scam you more. The whole "out of town" is BS when he supposedly has his make believe whore "Crystal" in accounting. Now he has "Joe Johnson". Last year he had "Rob Johnson" I kid you not. Naughty America is a SCAM. The sooner you guys come to grips about it and pull your links, the better off you will be...

It seems you are right....


>Crystal will be sending your payment today. Thank you for getting back to me and >touching base on the payment.
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Sent four days ago. Still no payment.

I cant believe it. They looked like a serious company and always payed me,
when they were using latouraine or something like that. I considered them one
of the greats in the adult online industry.

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Update:

Today i have received an email from CRYSTAL and MIKE.

Saying me the payment was sent.

BUT... not via check or via paypal (thats the methods i asked for)

instead it was sent via WESTERN UNION...

they sent me a PDF proof of the western union.

THE PROBLEM for me is:

Im not in the USA, thats why i was asking for a check or paypal,

I have a USA address yes, but is simply a courier address, they just re-ship
all to me once a month. Now the western is going to that address and to my name.

What can i do? theres no way i can cash a western union sent there, right?

Thanks to all.
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Update:

Today i have received an email from CRYSTAL and MIKE.

Saying me the payment was sent.

BUT... not via check or via paypal (thats the methods i asked for)

instead it was sent via WESTERN UNION...

they sent me a PDF proof of the western union.

THE PROBLEM for me is:

Im not in the USA, thats why i was asking for a check or paypal,

I have a USA address yes, but is simply a courier address, they just re-ship
all to me once a month. Now the western is going to that address and to my name.

What can i do? theres no way i can cash a western union sent there, right?

Thanks to all.
You might want to call your local Western Union at the number on the website. Give them the MTCN number that they gave you. Explain and that your id matches the name etc. Worth a try. Bizarre they would send it Western Union though.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:17 PM   #346
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Update:

Today i have received an email from CRYSTAL and MIKE.

Saying me the payment was sent.

BUT... not via check or via paypal (thats the methods i asked for)

instead it was sent via WESTERN UNION...

they sent me a PDF proof of the western union.

THE PROBLEM for me is:

Im not in the USA, thats why i was asking for a check or paypal,

I have a USA address yes, but is simply a courier address, they just re-ship
all to me once a month. Now the western is going to that address and to my name.

What can i do? theres no way i can cash a western union sent there, right?

Thanks to all.
do they have your bank account number? because then they just use Western Union to wire it to your bank account, that's what they did for me in the past year
you can send international wires with WU for a fraction of what banks charge
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do they have your bank account number? because then they just use Western Union to wire it to your bank account, that's what they did for me in the past year
you can send international wires with WU for a fraction of what banks charge

No, they dont.

They just have my mailing address (courier / checks)

and my paypal address, thats all.
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You might want to call your local Western Union at the number on the website. Give them the MTCN number that they gave you. Explain and that your id matches the name etc. Worth a try. Bizarre they would send it Western Union though.
Indeed. I think the same. Maybe calling a WU office to explain the situation can help.
I will give it a try.
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Would really like to get old good NA back on track. They produce really awesome content. We are owed $60k+ and I believe we can work it around as long as they shot great content.
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I'm somewhat disheartened to see this thread. I just got into the adult webmaster game late last year and Naughty America was one of my highest converting programs.

Unfortunately now that its time to get paid out I see this thread. I'm in the same boat as many of you, weeks without a response from Crystal.

And on top of that my 'backup' program Pimproll just banned me.

Has the adult industry always been like this?
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