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Old 07-21-2017, 02:57 AM   #1
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Having a high IQ makes you a very fucked up person

I've noticed that intelligence surrounded by civilization can equal becoming a fucked up disaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-788Upky2Y
But I think people with a high IQ need to find purpose in becoming powerful as fuck and effecting change
That's what I'm realizing
Also I think the most intelligent human beings noticed that they existed as a human being and said WOW FFS FUCK THIS and drove off of a cliff
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:08 AM   #2
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I liked the video but I can't connect what you're talking about with it. Chris seems to be quite content and is even driven by his CTMU project.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:25 AM   #3
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No no he seems to be doing fine and he seems as if he has found a way to be at peace
In his case I meant that he needs to put his intelligence to some better use
I miss posted my articulation of incoherency on that one
There was no dexterity in my writing vernacular
And other nonsense statements
I am very tired
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Hahaha! Okay then
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I think he's a fraud. Employs circular logic mixed with a heavy dose of big words, sprinkled with some semantics to prove "the existence of god". We're supposed to believe this guy has a 200 IQ, yet he believes in god...a man-made abstract concept. He's smart enough to be a good bullshit artist, and that's about it.
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I think he's a fraud. Employs circular logic mixed with a heavy dose of big words, sprinkled with some semantics to prove "the existence of god". We're supposed to believe this guy has a 200 IQ, yet he believes in god...a man-made abstract concept. He's smart enough to be a good bullshit artist, and that's about it.
Stating he believes in God is a ploy to get money/support from religious sheeple, arguably not the smartest bunch. "I'm above you, but we have a spiritual connection to the creator" "he brought you to me for a reason" etc. Lame
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Stating he believes in God is a ploy to get money/support from religious sheeple, arguably not the smartest bunch. "I'm above you, but we have a spiritual connection to the creator" "he brought you to me for a reason" etc. Lame
isn't that the story of every politician?
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Even to people with somewhat high IQ it is often annoying to interact with average (not even talking bellow average) people. So no surprise people with super high IQ could be "fucked up".
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isn't that the story of every politician?
Yeah and most preachers
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Stating he believes in God is a ploy to get money/support from religious sheeple, arguably not the smartest bunch. "I'm above you, but we have a spiritual connection to the creator" "he brought you to me for a reason" etc. Lame
People with high IQ usually dont brag about it.
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True too
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I think most people with a high IQ feel cursed and come to despise everyone else
I don't think that guy is a 200 but I believe that he is way up there
Don't forget that highly intelligent people can easily be social morons and could very well be susceptible to brainwashing and all of that
Another thing is, I think that most people who claim to have a high level, they are simply mentally ill god complex superiority complex type of lunatics from what I have seen and many of them are a complete imbecile
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You are absolutely correct - you must have some friends with high IQ to know that
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"...(he) started reading at 3."
I was reading fluently at 2. Probably as more people here. Does that make us have IQ 220?
Media sensationalism I would say.

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Another very smart person that started reading at 3.

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Old 07-22-2017, 03:21 PM   #17
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I'm a very messed up person
I didn't ever crawl I just started walking when I was too young
I was talking way too early
I quit school when I was twelve years old because I was done
I use to be a genius but I am nowhere near as sharp mentally as I once was AT ALL
But even having what is left is a fucking huge curse
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I was never a 200 I went around to several parts of the states being lab ratted and I was in the mid one sixties so I was never quite good enough for MENSA or other nerd leagues but I was VERY CLOSE back then
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You are absolutely correct - you must have some friends with high IQ to know that
Yeah it was me
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I mean don't get me wrong I still understand humanity and society on a level no one else seems to but I have UGE faults. Bigly. Big league. And I drank away a lot of my mind which is why I just began a sentence with AND, see
But at the same time I have managed to free myself of lifelong brain washing and programming and I am able to face reality and truth in ways NO ONE can
So there's that
I don't know
I sometimes wish that I was a moron like everyone in this building as an example. Then I could just be on welfare or work for $12 per hour somewhere and fuck skanky ugly women forever and not even know anything was wrong

Sigh
Not being a moron really sucks when you think about it
Not to mention being aware of how awkward and pointless and outright ridiculous being human is
Everyone has these illusions of grandeur like human beings are so amazing. Hell.

Also- to me- intelligence quotient should not be represented as being some kind of precisely accurate measurement when I see it as being an abstract concept AT BEST
Then again we don't even know the speed of light but everyone thinks we do. LoL. We're all a buffoon
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Man
Why do dumb people find everything, the most inane figments of their own imaginations, so DAMNED amusing?
I think one of the failtards living in this building was laughing at a pop top can the other day
Then I saw some morons throwing water bottles at a vacant building laughing their asses off a few nights ago and that was BEFORE they smoked their weed (they stop by to smoke up way over in the corner of the parking lot since it's vacant)

What ails everyone anyway

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The high-IQ individuals understand what the high-IQ (((people))) are up to.

Hence a life of chosen outsider-ness, instead of immersion in a common culture where those of lower intelligence can't figure out that we're all atomized and that there's no real togetherness. If we controlled our own culture, that guy absolutely would be a somebody, instead of a caricature of a white man.
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The high-IQ individuals understand what the high-IQ (((people))) are up to.

Hence a life of chosen outsider-ness, instead of immersion in a common culture where those of lower intelligence can't figure out that we're all atomized and that there's no real togetherness. If we controlled our own culture, that guy absolutely would be a somebody, instead of a caricature of a white man.
Ah, yes, I see what you are saying.
We also don't understand why people watch sporting events, we don't always get the "hanging out" thing, we do not always have a concept in our minds of what "fun" is, and people seem to hate us. I remember school being horrific because dumb people all hated me for doing better than them at everything. Or just for being different at all. I've been hated for every reason possible- even for being a white bread
I always say I may be white but I ain't bred
So true, too ... lol
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I am nowhere near as sharp mentally as I once was AT ALL
I know that feeling.

The parts of me that were sharpest now feel numb, and I'm having to come from a completely different place, and allow an unconscious sense of peoplehood to guide me. Hence why many of my posts are about being white.
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I know that feeling.

The parts of me that were sharpest now feel numb, and I'm having to come from a completely different place, and allow an unconscious sense of peoplehood to guide me. Hence why many of my posts are about being white.
Fuck everyone the fuck into HELL. I just try to remember no matter what the news says, or how much these god damned lefties think I am not, I am a human being and fuck them in hell for being racist
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I think you will find those with a true high IQ don't feel the need to go prove that to anyone.
They tend to want to accomplish 'something', if it is for the greater good or just personal or both.
That is what drives them to learn more.

Being smart is not knowing things or much of everything.
Being smart is the ability to figure out what you need/don't know by whatever means possible. Create your own formula for get'n it done.
Something you can't achieve if you don't want to accomplish anything. I have a name for it... 'I Quest'

So more often than not, real IQ is a matter of 'drive'.
Sometimes the lack of drive comes from the over abundance of fear.

Successful people (not necessarily high IQ) have managed the fear factor. But success means something different to each person. But success in the biz world seems to come from those that are well practice at the art of manipulation. That does not 'require' a high IQ.

So those with a high IQ and with a lack of formal education will normally have a good set of 'life skills'.
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I think you will find those with a true high IQ don't feel the need to go prove that to anyone.
They tend to want to accomplish 'something', if it is for the greater good or just personal or both.
That is what drives them to learn more.

Being smart is not knowing things or much of everything.
Being smart is the ability to figure out what you need/don't know by whatever means possible. Create your own formula for get'n it done.
Something you can't achieve if you don't want to accomplish anything. I have a name for it... 'I Quest'

So more often than not, real IQ is a matter of 'drive'.
Sometimes the lack of drive comes from the over abundance of fear.

Successful people (not necessarily high IQ) have managed the fear factor. But success means something different to each person. But success in the biz world seems to come from those that are well practice at the art of manipulation. That does not 'require' a high IQ.

So those with a high IQ and with a lack of formal education will normally have a good set of 'life skills'.

Wow
I actually got some interesting responses ... that is good to see and refreshing. For sure. My new sense of purpose since I have nothing to keep me going at all is that I want to help good people and harm bad people. Look into effective altruism. It is very similar to what I mean to dedicate the time I have left to doing.
Helping people is better than sex. Actually, it is.

Intelligent people don't need to have societal status or to drive a flashy vehicle or to impress normal people AT THE FUCK AT ALL
You would be shocked and amazed at the level to which that goes, too
Me, I always thought I just wanted to be financially comfortable, but now? I want to be FILTHY FUCKING WEALTHY AND AS POWERFUL AS I CAN POSSIBLY BE because I want JUSTICE and I will be inspiring others who are wealthy to put their MONEY behind where their MOUTH IS

I get so sick of talkers runnin' they mouth about shit they should never speak on
Playing the save the world role when they ain't doin' shit
Real talk
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I don't care if some of you pricks think I am stupid or whatever else, just go eat some garbage
For anyone who has money PLEASE go to here to gain an understanding of effective altruism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_altruism
I know people are mostly garbage and make you give up on caring about others and it's easy and tempting to say fuck everyone in hell, but this can make a REAL difference and it is worth your time
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Wow
I actually got some interesting responses ... that is good to see and refreshing. For sure. My new sense of purpose since I have nothing to keep me going at all is that I want to help good people and harm bad people. Look into effective altruism. It is very similar to what I mean to dedicate the time I have left to doing.
Helping people is better than sex. Actually, it is.

Intelligent people don't need to have societal status or to drive a flashy vehicle or to impress normal people AT THE FUCK AT ALL
You would be shocked and amazed at the level to which that goes, too
Me, I always thought I just wanted to be financially comfortable, but now? I want to be FILTHY FUCKING WEALTHY AND AS POWERFUL AS I CAN POSSIBLY BE because I want JUSTICE and I will be inspiring others who are wealthy to put their MONEY behind where their MOUTH IS

I get so sick of talkers runnin' they mouth about shit they should never speak on
Playing the save the world role when they ain't doin' shit
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Stop posting to my threads until you listen to this THREE TIMES you fucking mental midget

Consecutively not concurrently
That means listen to it. Listen to it again. Listen to it again. Do not play it three times simultaneously. Simultaneously means all at once


PS: FUCK OFF

Again means a second time. The second again / again again means for a third time.
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Stop posting to my threads until you listen to this THREE TIMES you fucking mental midget

Consecutively not concurrently
That means listen to it. Listen to it again. Listen to it again. Do not play it three times simultaneously. Simultaneously means all at once


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And what does this have anything to do with anyone here? LOL
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Not really any such thing as a 200 IQ, as most standard IQ tests max out there, so that number basically means untestable.
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Everybody is a genius...

But if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree,
It will believe it's whole life that it is stupid.

...Albert Einstein
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And what does this have anything to do with anyone here? LOL
Ahahahaha
HA
Not bad
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But if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree,
It will believe it's whole life that it is stupid.

...Albert Einstein
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Wisdom
He was nuts but brilliant as hell
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If you listen to Bach because you want to, and your brain can track all the elements of the fugues, or the harmonies in the opening of the Matthäus-Passion;

If you speak 3+ languages fluently;

If you can do 4 figure simple math problems in your head more rapidly than you can type them;

If you can understand poetry;

If you have your own justifiable theories about the structure of space-time and dimensions;

If you can draw an accurate 3d picture with a pencil;

If your reaction time is less than .2 seconds;

If you can hold an entire car in your head;

If you have a chess ELO ranking of 2100+;

If you understand people, and can get what you want from them, but still feel alone;

If you have any 6 you're a genius.
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I have a very high IQ and really it means shit.

At school I was put forward a year and then 3 years then dropped back to my age year, then they decided it was just cos I was a lil cunt so they tried disciplining me with strap, 9 times in one day once! Then they made me work in the head masters office for months.

The thing was when I was in the head masters office I excelled, as soon as I went back to class, I slipped again. Some classes I did very well in, others I just flopped.

At the age of 40, I went for a full midlife medical.
The report shocked everyone myself the most, then everyone went.. oh yeah that explains it.

Eye astigmatism, I had never really seen the blackboard, and... 60% tone deaf, they were amazed how I had gotten thru life being so deaf and no one ever noticing.

Once I knew that everything made sense, classes I did bad in I sat at the back, or the teacher had a beard, or women with high pitch voices. Classes I sat in the front.. I did well

Why's Baldy such a technohead.. only music I can hear, why do I hate pubs but a night club regular.. everyone shouts. And why I have done so well with computers/internet, its the perfect self learning environment.

On the other hand my sister whose not so smart, has like 4 degrees and is a computer scientist, and she still can't work out how to turn a pc on I might add. But she's got the qualifications, slow and steady wins the race, she was a plodder and study hard person.

IQ is just your ability to learn it has no reflection on what you have learned.
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^^ very true - if you are from a normal family a high IQ is actually a detriment, and it has been calculated that you need a 155 or above to overcome the effects of poverty.

George W Bush became president of the USA. Rich supportive family matters more than anything else, then raw ambition and work ethic, then talent, then intelligence.
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^^ very true - if you are from a normal family a high IQ is actually a detriment, and it has been calculated that you need a 155 or above to overcome the effects of poverty.
absolutely nothing you are saying is true. further, there is little to no agreement on what an IQ test measures or what IQ even is. modern neuroscientists argue that all an IQ tests measures is your ability to take an IQ test.

clearly, people have a very poor understanding of how a skill is learned in the brain.

IQ, as it's currently measured, has ZERO correlation to success later in life. IQ has no correlation to success in chess, in winning a Nobel Prize, publishing scientific papers or anything else (relative to peers). IQ doesn't automatically grant you skill in anything. Skill is learned. All skills are learned. There is no such thing as a "prodigy" in anything. There is only our perception that it "came out of nowhere" because we don't stop to consider the 1000s of hours of practice someone put in before they were noticed as being a "prodigy".

Like anything we do, playing chess is a skill that only comes after countless hours of learning and practicing chess. Chess grandmasters, on the whole, (as repeated studies have proven time and time again) tend to be average or below average intelligence. playing a musical instrument at a world class level is a skill that only comes after 1000s hours of learning and practicing. painting at a world class level is a skill that only comes after countless 1000s of hours of learning and practicing... etc etc. that someone can do several of those things only means they've spent 1000s of hours practicing those things, nothing more.
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absolutely nothing you are saying is true. further, there is little to no agreement on what an IQ test measures or what IQ even is.
Wow you're delusional, or butthurt because of low IQ test results. I vote both... based on your previous post history.

Let me help you.

Along with IQ there's EQ and eight other categories of intelligence; Bodily kinesthetic Intelligence, Spatial intelligence, Interpersonal intelligence, Musical intelligence, Intrapersonal intelligence & Naturalist intelligence.
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Wow you're delusional, or butthurt because of low IQ test results. I vote both... based on your previous post history.

Let me help you.

Along with IQ there's EQ and eight other categories of intelligence; Bodily kinesthetic Intelligence, Spatial intelligence, Interpersonal intelligence, Musical intelligence, Intrapersonal intelligence & Naturalist intelligence.
Since the discussion is not about any of those things and specifically the Stanford–Binet IQ test which is the de facto, world wide standard when mentioning "IQ" and "IQ Test", I think it's safe to say that you need help as you even have no idea what anyone is saying.

Further, I read about the brain and learning DAILY. I practice what I learn daily in teaching. I train people daily. From casual books to text books... while you read nothing but Trump tweets.... and you didn't know about any of those rather new supposed categories of "intelligence" until you googled them.

Additionally, i am more than happy to prove you wrong in anything you have to say on the subject as I generally know what studies will debunk whatever crap you'll post and consider myself to be up to date on anything related to learning and particularly motor learning as it's my personal obsession as someone who trains people to fight.

Unlike you, i'm not googling furiously to make a point. Take "musical intelligence" which is something that i've never heard of. Why? Because it is never mentioned in neuroscience or books on the brain or books on learning. Why is it never mentioned? Because its bullshit. Having "perfect pitch" as its called as an example is not an innate trait. It's learned just as anything else is. It's something more common in children under 6 and fades as we age. it's something easily learned in adults or children.But it is learned. It's far easier when people speak a tonal language. it's not an innate trait. Adults can learn "perfect pitch" in a couple weeks with the right learning process.

Music related skills are BY FAR the most misunderstood of any learned skill and most often attributed to a "personal gift"... .but from Mozart to Michael Jordan to Michael Jackson to Tiger Woods to any 12-year-old violin "prodigy", behind their skill, is countless 1000s of hours of practice (except that most of Mozarts early work is plagiarized, being other known works pieced together, or written in his father's hand - also a composer/music teacher) and the intense efforts of crazed parents living through their kids to achieve the fame they felt they deserved by forcing their children into insane amounts of practice, coaching and learning.



The worst thing about attributing learned skills to being an innate gift is that it
1) totally diminishes, dismisses and ignores the years of very very hard work of the performer put in to attain that level of skill
2) it suggests to others that they shouldn't try to excel if they don't possess some "gift" already... which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and one not rooted in any kind of fact or even reality
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Since the discussion is not about any of those things and specifically the Stanford?Binet IQ test which is the de facto, world wide standard when mentioning "IQ" and "IQ Test", I think it's safe to say that you need help as you even have no idea what anyone is saying.

Further, I read about the brain and learning DAILY. I practice what I learn daily in teaching. I train people daily. From casual books to text books... while you read nothing but Trump tweets.... and you didn't know about any of those rather new supposed categories of "intelligence" until you googled them.

Additionally, i am more than happy to prove you wrong in anything you have to say on the subject as I generally know what studies will debunk whatever crap you'll post and consider myself to be up to date on anything related to learning and particularly motor learning as it's my personal obsession as someone who trains people to fight.

Unlike you, i'm not googling furiously to make a point. Take "musical intelligence" which is something that i've never heard of. Why? Because it is never mentioned in neuroscience or books on the brain or books on learning. Why is it never mentioned? Because its bullshit. Having "perfect pitch" as its called as an example is not an innate trait. It's learned just as anything else is. It's something more common in children under 6 and fades as we age. it's something easily learned in adults or children.But it is learned. It's far easier when people speak a tonal language. it's not an innate trait. Adults can learn "perfect pitch" in a couple weeks with the right learning process.

Music related skills are BY FAR the most misunderstood of any learned skill and most often attributed to a "personal gift"... .but from Mozart to Michael Jordan to Michael Jackson to Tiger Woods to any 12-year-old violin "prodigy", behind their skill, is countless 1000s of hours of practice (except that most of Mozarts early work is plagiarized, being other known works pieced together, or written in his father's hand - also a composer/music teacher) and the intense efforts of crazed parents living through their kids to achieve the fame they felt they deserved by forcing their children into insane amounts of practice, coaching and learning.

The worst thing about attributing learned skills to being an innate gift is that it
1) totally diminishes, dismisses and ignores the years of very very hard work of the performer put in to attain that level of skill
2) it suggests to others that they shouldn't try to excel if they don't possess some "gift" already... which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and one not rooted in any kind of fact or even reality
You "train people daily" and I "read nothing but Trump tweets". How'd your shift at McDonalds go today? hehehe There's a lot of misinformation in your post, but I did read all of it. Keep trying. Don't give up.



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I have a very high IQ and really it means shit.

At school I was put forward a year and then 3 years then dropped back to my age year, then they decided it was just cos I was a lil cunt so they tried disciplining me with strap, 9 times in one day once! Then they made me work in the head masters office for months.

The thing was when I was in the head masters office I excelled, as soon as I went back to class, I slipped again. Some classes I did very well in, others I just flopped.

At the age of 40, I went for a full midlife medical.
The report shocked everyone myself the most, then everyone went.. oh yeah that explains it.

Eye astigmatism, I had never really seen the blackboard, and... 60% tone deaf, they were amazed how I had gotten thru life being so deaf and no one ever noticing.

Once I knew that everything made sense, classes I did bad in I sat at the back, or the teacher had a beard, or women with high pitch voices. Classes I sat in the front.. I did well

Why's Baldy such a technohead.. only music I can hear, why do I hate pubs but a night club regular.. everyone shouts. And why I have done so well with computers/internet, its the perfect self learning environment.

On the other hand my sister whose not so smart, has like 4 degrees and is a computer scientist, and she still can't work out how to turn a pc on I might add. But she's got the qualifications, slow and steady wins the race, she was a plodder and study hard person.

IQ is just your ability to learn it has no reflection on what you have learned.

Yeah equating comprehension and brain horsepower with knowledge or wisdom is ridiculous. I've always thought that. Just like not all ignorant people are actually stupid. But most stupid people are ignorant.
I was always in so much trouble at all times in school- they had what was called ISS and at some junctures they would make me go to that most mornings without even going into class
We had a sexy azz lady who worked in the principal's office
Her and I use to spend a lot of time together and there were all kinds of puzzles and things
I liked that part of school
She was so sexy
To this day I still can't understand or learn much about anything I don't care about. If I care about it I can take the information how ever it is. Reading, listening, film, anything. If it's simple and I don't like it I can't even make myself learn it
So college was out
I wanted to go to Devry back then but said fuck it
I left school when I was twelve and began hustling cable television equipment full time
Fuck everything
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^^ very true - if you are from a normal family a high IQ is actually a detriment, and it has been calculated that you need a 155 or above to overcome the effects of poverty.

George W Bush became president of the USA. Rich supportive family matters more than anything else, then raw ambition and work ethic, then talent, then intelligence.
Having garbage trash on both sides of my blood line definitely makes me predisposed to doing bad things. I have propensities and proclivities (for crime for excessive women for excessive use of anything for excessive anything else) and that's not even the beginning of the compendium on THAT
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absolutely nothing you are saying is true. further, there is little to no agreement on what an IQ test measures or what IQ even is. modern neuroscientists argue that all an IQ tests measures is your ability to take an IQ test.

clearly, people have a very poor understanding of how a skill is learned in the brain.

IQ, as it's currently measured, has ZERO correlation to success later in life. IQ has no correlation to success in chess, in winning a Nobel Prize, publishing scientific papers or anything else (relative to peers). IQ doesn't automatically grant you skill in anything. Skill is learned. All skills are learned. There is no such thing as a "prodigy" in anything. There is only our perception that it "came out of nowhere" because we don't stop to consider the 1000s of hours of practice someone put in before they were noticed as being a "prodigy".

Like anything we do, playing chess is a skill that only comes after countless hours of learning and practicing chess. Chess grandmasters, on the whole, (as repeated studies have proven time and time again) tend to be average or below average intelligence. playing a musical instrument at a world class level is a skill that only comes after 1000s hours of learning and practicing. painting at a world class level is a skill that only comes after countless 1000s of hours of learning and practicing... etc etc. that someone can do several of those things only means they've spent 1000s of hours practicing those things, nothing more.

While I'll agree that IQ tests are more abstract than they are definitive - IQ should be a measure of brain horsepower and storage capacity. Many high IQ people could give a fuck LESS about YOUR definition of success. When you factor in HOW MANY PEOPLE HATE US EXTREMELY and what that does to our VIEW OF SOCIETY WHEN WE LOOK OUT AT IT you can imagine that many of us do not want or give a FUCK about visibility, fame, or even fortune
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