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Old 02-22-2018, 09:05 AM   #1
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NRA chief blasts Democrats, the FBI and the media after Florida massacre

https://nypost.com/2018/02/22/nra-ch...americas-guns/

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In a defiant call to arms, the head of the National Rifle Association on Thursday railed about failures in mental health care and among the country?s law enforcement agencies in the deadly shooting at a Florida high school but said suggestions to limit guns in any way are ?completely ridiculous.?

?The whole idea from some of our opponents that armed security makes us less safe is completely ridiculous. If that?s true, armed security makes us less safe, let?s just go ahead and remove it from everywhere. Let?s remove it from the White House, from Capitol Hill, and remove it from all of Hollywood,? Wayne LaPierre told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

?Evil walks among us and God help us if we don?t harden our schools and protect our kids,? he continued.

Speaking a week after a man walked into a Florida high school with an AR-15 and gunned down 17 students and staff, LaPierre called out Democrats and the media for not caring out the safety of America?s school children.

?The elites don?t care not one wit about America?s school system and school children. If they truly cared, what they would do is protect them,? he said. ?Their goal is to eliminate the Second Amendment, and our firearms freedoms.?

Calling out failures of the mental health care system and the FBI for not pursuing tips about the
Florida shooter?s violent tendencies, he said the media is exploiting tragedy for their own good.

?As usual, the opportunists wasted not one second to exploit tragedy for political gain,? LaPierre said. ?Think about that. In the midst of genuine grief, an innocent passion as millions of Americans search for meaningful solutions, what do we find??
Maybe Wayne LaPierre will lobby the government to attach a tax to gun sales so protecting schools comes out of the pockets of those who threaten school.
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Wayne La Piere is soon to be consigned to the heap of history along with Jim Crow Laws ....
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Imagine that!

The gunmakers who make the guns and use the NRA to pay off crooked GOP politicians to push for everyone of any age to buy & use military grade semi automatic firearms, blame anyone but themselves for the results of their political payoffs to increase profits at any social price.

The NRA "No life is too young to lose for the right to own any semi automatic rifle you choose"
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Armed guards, police officers on campus, and arming teachers are not the solution.

I live in a town of fifty thousand people. We have two high schools (building a third high school), and five other schools. How many armed guards or police officers do we need to protect all of these schools? One per school? Three? Didn't the school in Florida have an armed guard? That didn't seem to help at all.

You want to arm teachers? Require them to take classes? We don't pay teachers enough, now we want them to spend more time in "firearms safety classes" and learning how to handle a tactical situation protecting hundreds of kids while going head to head with a gunman with a death wish and armed with an AR-15? Teacher are begging for supplies for kids - who is going to pay for their weapons?

All of this isn't a solution at all. Police officers, armed guards, and arming teachers is a reaction AFTER the attack has already taken place. As soon as someone walks on campus with an AR-15 IT'S TOO LATE.
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Armed guards, police officers on campus, and arming teachers are not the solution.

I live in a town of fifty thousand people. We have two high schools (building a third high school), and five other schools. How many armed guards or police officers do we need to protect all of these schools? One per school? Three? Didn't the school in Florida have an armed guard? That didn't seem to help at all.

You want to arm teachers? Require them to take classes? We don't pay teachers enough, now we want them to spend more time in "firearms safety classes" and learning how to handle a tactical situation protecting hundreds of kids while going head to head with a gunman with a death wish and armed with an AR-15? Teacher are begging for supplies for kids - who is going to pay for their weapons?

All of this isn't a solution at all. Police officers, armed guards, and arming teachers is a reaction AFTER the attack has already taken place. As soon as someone walks on campus with an AR-15 IT'S TOO LATE.
So what do you say when someone walks on campus with a revolver next?
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So what do you say when someone walks on campus with a revolver next?
Since I doubt you ever set foot on a school campus what in the hell would you care?
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Since I doubt you ever set foot on a school campus what in the hell would you care?
In my 12th grade year of high school I got my "critical thinking" teacher fired because she accused me of cheating with A CHEAT SHEET. She never expected anyone to be able to define 1000 words on one sheet of paper front and back. I got my 100 and she got in the unemployment line. True story
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In my 12th grade year of high school I got my "critical thinking" teacher fired because she accused me of cheating with A CHEAT SHEET. She never expected anyone to be able to define 1000 words on one sheet of paper front and back. I got my 100 and she got in the unemployment line. True story
I can't decide who the bigger liar on this board is, you are asspimple, although I think you two are the same guy.
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of course he would do that.
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I can't decide who the bigger liar on this board is, you are asspimple, although I think you two are the same guy.
How does it make you feel believing one person is toying with your head via so many different names?
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?The elites don?t care not one wit about America?s school system and school children."



yes yes "the elites" are to blame for this...

I mean its not like the arms lobby has a vested interest in gun sales...noooooooo not at all

its "the elites"
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How does it make you feel believing one person is toying with your head via so many different names?

Don't flatter yourself Shirley.

The day an idiot like you makes me feel anything is the day I jump off a building.
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The day an idiot like you makes me feel anything is the day I jump off a building.
I already know. Sociopaths have no feelings.
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I already know. Sociopaths have no feelings.
I'm sure you know firsthand.

Now go post some more lies about dead peoples families, jackass.
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Gee the gun lobby blaming everyone else.. how very Republican of them..
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I already know. Sociopaths have no feelings.
I agree.

You are a foreign sociopath pretending to be an American online spreading hate and anger and divisiob. You clearly already know sociopaths have no feelings because you are one. You suck at trolling too btw

It's a shame that AVN allows you and your fake nics here #ThanksAVN
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I already know. Sociopaths have no feelings.
So you admit, you and chump have no feelings!
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Wayne LaPierre..another shit stain on society. Nice to see businesses seperate from these ass clowns

“As usual, the opportunists wasted not one second to exploit tragedy for political gain,” LaPierre said." He's a fucking hypocrite

All the NRA cares about is selling more guns
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The NRA "No life is too young to lose for the right to own any semi automatic rifle you choose"
I bet you feel the same way about Planned Parenrhood.
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US policy towards guns has been formed by the NRA for a long time.

The pro gun lobby has been winning the argument and getting its way for decades.

The amount of deaths, and the amount of mass shootings continues to rise. Its not working fellas.

To continue to do the same thing over and over, and to expect a different result.......
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I wonder what mr Wayne LaPierre has to say if one of his grandkids gets a bullet in his/her head.
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I wonder what mr Wayne LaPierre has to say if one of his grandkids gets a bullet in his/her head.
He'd probably shed a tear as he was on his way to the bank to deposit a check from the company that made the bullet and gun. Then go on a crusade about every kid should own and carry a gun while placing the blame on everyone else.
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OK not that many of you will actually READ it but here is the facts about the NRA, written by my good friend John Ross.

First, the NRA is not an industry lobby, it is a membership organization, acting in the interests of its 5 million members. Applying RICO laws to a membership organization whose mission is to defend the Constitution and whose members WANT to see the Constitution upheld? I don?t think so?

The NRA (including the NRA-ILA) is ENTIRELY funded by small contributions from its membership (currently standing at appx. 5 million members), of under $1,000 each. There is no "gun industry money." If there were, it would have to be disclosed, and the FEC filings show nothing at all.

And as far as the "NRA money", the NRA isn't even in the top 500 donors to candidates most years. In fact, taken together, individuals and political organizations and lobbyists explicitly advocating for and supporting gun control, give more than 100 times as much money to Democrats and the Democratic party, as the NRA and NSSF combined give to BOTH parties and their candidates combined.

The average donation the NRA gives to any specific candidate or officeholder is just $2,000 per year. That?s chump change to a candidate spending over a million dollars on his campaign. What the candidates want are the VOTES of the NRA membership.

For the 2016 federal election cycle, the NRA and all its affiliates was 488th in donations to parties or candidates... donating just $1.1 million dollars total for all 470-ish federal races in 2016, with their single largest donation to any candidate being $9,900... and 159th in money spent on lobbying for or against issues or candidates, at just about $3.2 million TOTAL for all federal issues, legislation, or candidates.

Just as a comparison, ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, Michael Bloomberg, whose primary cause is gun control, donated more to anti-gun activities, ($36 million in 2016) including contributions to congressmen and senators, and spends more on anti-gun lobbying every year, than the entire NRA and all its affiliates. And the Democratic party has a couple dozen of these individual megadonors, and a couple hundred "bundlers" who bundle up anti-gun money. from individuals every year. Another one of their individual megadonors spent 78 million, though he has TWO issues, climate change and gun control, not just the one.

The average member of congress, both house and senate, spends about $2 million a year on campaigning and other partisan political costs. The $9,900 they get from the NRA isn't what sways their votes, it's the FIVE MILLION NRA members who call their offices several times a year, or send letters, postcards, and emails.

The NRA sends a lot of postcards and emails to its members, asking them to call their congressman or senator about specific issues and legislation.

The NRA gives FAR less money total each year, than just as an example, the National Dairy Farmers Association, the National Realtor Association, or pretty much ANY industry lobby, never mind the unions which dwarf all industry lobbies COMBINED. Why is this?

Because, ONCE AGAIN, the NRA is not an industry lobbying group, it's a membership organization promoting proficiency and safety in the shooting sports. The vast majority of the NRAs money, about 80%, goes to its actual core mission of promoting firearms proficiency and safety. About 5% goes towards fundraising.

The specific legislative action arm, the NRA-ILA, accounts for less than 15% of the NRA?s spending annually. The NRA-ILA gives less in TEN YEARS than any of the top 100 donor groups give in a single year, and again, they don't lobby for the firearms industry, they lobby for individual rights.

The NRA-ILA lobby for laws and regulations, federally, and in all fifty states, which respect and protect the fundamental, inherent, and pre-existing, individual right to keep and bear arms, for all lawful purposes.

That's not the NRAs language by the way, it's the Constitution's, and the Supreme Court's. Read DC v. Heller if you're confused.

Oh and by the by, the NRA are non-partisan, and historically speaking, in any given year, about 15-20% of their contributions go to Democrats. Which they actually catch hell for from conservative NRA members who tend to forget that we need pro-gun Democrats as well as Republicans. Though in 2016 it was unusual in that they only opposed 2 republicans and only supported 11 democrats.

Since anyone ranting about the NRA can't even be bothered to find out the most basic facts surrounding their fallacious farce of a non-argument, they can, and should be, at best ignored, if not actually mocked.
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NRA is a gun lobbyist for the gun market/owners. Wayne LaPierre speech was political and full of fear mongering, not about education. Lobbyist give money to both parties in order to further their agenda
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So nice seeing the banks, insurance companies and other corporations turning their back on the NRA today woohoo!

The day that a billion dollar corporation attacks high school victims of a mass shooting is the beginning of the end for the traitorous pieces of shit
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So what do you say when someone walks on campus with a revolver next?
Take the revolvers and other arms away from unqualified people.
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OK not that many of you will actually READ it but here is the facts about the NRA, written by my good friend John Ross.

First, the NRA is not an industry lobby, it is a membership organization, acting in the interests of its 5 million members. Applying RICO laws to a membership organization whose mission is to defend the Constitution and whose members WANT to see the Constitution upheld? I don?t think so?

The NRA (including the NRA-ILA) is ENTIRELY funded by small contributions from its membership (currently standing at appx. 5 million members), of under $1,000 each. There is no "gun industry money." If there were, it would have to be disclosed, and the FEC filings show nothing at all.

And as far as the "NRA money", the NRA isn't even in the top 500 donors to candidates most years. In fact, taken together, individuals and political organizations and lobbyists explicitly advocating for and supporting gun control, give more than 100 times as much money to Democrats and the Democratic party, as the NRA and NSSF combined give to BOTH parties and their candidates combined.

The average donation the NRA gives to any specific candidate or officeholder is just $2,000 per year. That?s chump change to a candidate spending over a million dollars on his campaign. What the candidates want are the VOTES of the NRA membership.

For the 2016 federal election cycle, the NRA and all its affiliates was 488th in donations to parties or candidates... donating just $1.1 million dollars total for all 470-ish federal races in 2016, with their single largest donation to any candidate being $9,900... and 159th in money spent on lobbying for or against issues or candidates, at just about $3.2 million TOTAL for all federal issues, legislation, or candidates.

Just as a comparison, ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, Michael Bloomberg, whose primary cause is gun control, donated more to anti-gun activities, ($36 million in 2016) including contributions to congressmen and senators, and spends more on anti-gun lobbying every year, than the entire NRA and all its affiliates. And the Democratic party has a couple dozen of these individual megadonors, and a couple hundred "bundlers" who bundle up anti-gun money. from individuals every year. Another one of their individual megadonors spent 78 million, though he has TWO issues, climate change and gun control, not just the one.

The average member of congress, both house and senate, spends about $2 million a year on campaigning and other partisan political costs. The $9,900 they get from the NRA isn't what sways their votes, it's the FIVE MILLION NRA members who call their offices several times a year, or send letters, postcards, and emails.

The NRA sends a lot of postcards and emails to its members, asking them to call their congressman or senator about specific issues and legislation.

The NRA gives FAR less money total each year, than just as an example, the National Dairy Farmers Association, the National Realtor Association, or pretty much ANY industry lobby, never mind the unions which dwarf all industry lobbies COMBINED. Why is this?

Because, ONCE AGAIN, the NRA is not an industry lobbying group, it's a membership organization promoting proficiency and safety in the shooting sports. The vast majority of the NRAs money, about 80%, goes to its actual core mission of promoting firearms proficiency and safety. About 5% goes towards fundraising.

The specific legislative action arm, the NRA-ILA, accounts for less than 15% of the NRA?s spending annually. The NRA-ILA gives less in TEN YEARS than any of the top 100 donor groups give in a single year, and again, they don't lobby for the firearms industry, they lobby for individual rights.

The NRA-ILA lobby for laws and regulations, federally, and in all fifty states, which respect and protect the fundamental, inherent, and pre-existing, individual right to keep and bear arms, for all lawful purposes.

That's not the NRAs language by the way, it's the Constitution's, and the Supreme Court's. Read DC v. Heller if you're confused.

Oh and by the by, the NRA are non-partisan, and historically speaking, in any given year, about 15-20% of their contributions go to Democrats. Which they actually catch hell for from conservative NRA members who tend to forget that we need pro-gun Democrats as well as Republicans. Though in 2016 it was unusual in that they only opposed 2 republicans and only supported 11 democrats.

Since anyone ranting about the NRA can't even be bothered to find out the most basic facts surrounding their fallacious farce of a non-argument, they can, and should be, at best ignored, if not actually mocked.
So what you are saying is the Gun control lobby need to get together and organise a better campaign to stop guns going into the hands of unqualified people. Gotya.

What warrants as qualified? That's the question.
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Maybe Wayne LaPierre will lobby the government to attach a tax to gun sales so protecting schools comes out of the pockets of those who threaten school.
Let me guess. You're posting this because you like what he's saying.

Wayne La Pierre is a piece of shit.
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Let me guess. You're posting this because you like what he's saying.

Wayne La Pierre is a piece of shit.
No, reread what I said and think about it.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:28 AM   #31
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Actually they give alot more, its not just individual contributions.
NRA Contributions: How Much Politicians Like Roy Blunt Receive | Fortune

Fortune is not a liberal mag.

Also the nra is owned by the gun industry, which why most of their members are for greater background checks but they arent backing that because they arent doing their members will, its the gun industries will.
Here is the break out of how it works
This Is How The Gun Industry Funds The NRA - Business Insider
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Gee the gun lobby blaming everyone else.. how very Republican of them..


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Wayne LaPierre..another shit stain on society. ...
All the NRA cares about is selling more guns
I've been saying this forever
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Wow!

Blackrock (managing $6 Trillion in assets) threatens to divest from gun makers Sturm Ruger & Company Inc and American Outdoor Brands Corp.!

Blackrock Puts Gun Makers on Notice
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So nice seeing the banks, insurance companies and other corporations turning their back on the NRA today woohoo!

The day that a billion dollar corporation attacks high school victims of a mass shooting is the beginning of the end for the traitorous pieces of shit
This is awesome these companies are dropping ship but they shouldn't of been on board from the get go.
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