Vendzilla

They carry modified Ar's and shot guns. Here in LA even the motorcycle cops carry AR's

The fucking left want us to rely on the protection of these buffoons and cowardly low life's that thought being a cop was a easy job just giving out tickets all day.

And for your information, in close quarters, I would prefer a good pistol over an AR-15. Most cops I've seen at the range can't shoot worth a shit.

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I personally would prefer a pistol as well. Once they achieve the semi-auto rifle ban that will be the next weapon of choice by mass/school shooters to be gunned for banning..

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SilentKnight

Sheriff's deputy...not an "armed guard"

Since this simple fact obviously eludes you...it further invalidates any credibility to your spin attempt.

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You don't have a brain cell remaining in your head to understand and/or piece together what I've been saying since day one.

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Vendzilla

Thing is, a .223 is a varment round, yeah it will kill, but not always, you hit someone with a .45acp and they go flying back 6 feet with parts of their body breaking away. Most shooting happens within 6 feet. And most cops wear body Armour and have access to heavy Armour vests.
I remember in the military them showing us a steel jacketed 45 that hit it's target and the steel peeled away making the round almost 3 inches long and thinking what that wold do to someone. Never understood why the US went to the 9 mm, it's not near as reliable in putting down someone.

The 45 was designed for a reason and you can find that here and know why it's perfect for today's armed conflicts https://www.ammoland.com/2016/07/his...#axzz5853jWOMP

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DBS.US

The Columbine high school shooters didn't have a AR!5

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Vendzilla

Thing is I doubt the cops knew what the shooter was using, I mean they would have to go inside to see it wouldn't they?

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VRPdommy

For one, I'm pretty sure I would not rush right in there either...
I don't blame any law enforcement for taking their time to assess the citation before possibly killing students themselves.
Most especially if I did not have a armored vest on and I did not know how many guns and people with them there were.(what I was up against).

The idea of having guns in the classroom where they potentially could end up in the hands of a irrational student without the teacher having a armored vest (since if it were known who had guns you would make them the first target).
Schools are for leaning and I hope some adults can learn something from this if they actually think everything through.

Before you know it, it's going to be cowboys and cowboys in the street and the rules of the old west will be law. That will sell more guns but not make you safer.
Yes I am for the 2nd and have more guns than most commenting here.

I find it ironic that a 18 year old can't buy smokes, beer and drivers licence starts off as a probationary instrument and many other things depending on your state, but can buy a AR-15 with no trouble at all.
Hmmm... which is more likely to kill anyone in the short term. If they are not 'grown-up' enough to make adult decisions about cigarettes and beer... WTF ?

EonBlue

Notice how the left wing blames everyone under the sun except the actual shooter?

This kid was such a whack job that he probably would have built a bomb if he couldn't get a gun.



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Interestingly enough.. The 1994 Assault weapon ban was in effect then. Didn't stop them from obtaining that tec-9. I'd have to look back, how did they get their guns?

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beerptrol

You mean like the way you nut jobs rationalize. "He probably would have built a bomb" or ban knives and cars, because they are used to kill.

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Most especially if I did not have a armored vest on

He did.

So you think the military should do the same? Just not engage? After all they make less money.

You've bought right into it all. Hook, line and sinker.. Pussify the nation, take the guns, then conquer.. A cuck begging to be enslaved...

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EonBlue

Yes Bladewire, just like that. Just like you fucktards call Trump a nazi thereby totally diminishing and trivializing the suffering and death of millions of people under the actual nazis. You holocaust deniers are fucking scum.

Anyways, you better start banning anything that can be used to build a bomb. And ban castor beans too. Castor beans can be used be used to make ricin. And chainsaws. The chainsaw was one of the funnest weapons to use in Doom. Wouldn't want kids getting any ideas. And while you're at it make murder illegal. That will definitely do the trick.



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brassmonkey

they used to have them in boxes of cracker jacks

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Probably did where you grew up

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Rochard

Even better. He was a fully trained sheriff's deputy.

He knew that it was pointless for a single man armed with a handgun to go in and try to locate a shooter armed with an AR-15 assault weapon hidden in 3100 kids.

I am not trying to "spin" anything. There was one sheriff's deputy armed with a handgun going up against an known amount of gunman who were obviously armed with assault weapons. But everyone expects him to run into classrooms like John Wanye.

All of this talk about armed guards and arming teachers is pointless. All this does it respond to a shooting after dead bodies have hit the ground. Our government is doing nothing to prevent this. Again.

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Tasty1

He just got his salary and saw how many vacation he got.
Not worth dying for he must have thought.

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When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'

What an asshole. Obviously a piece of shit corrupt sheriff. No doubt he'll be running for public office as a democrat soon.




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A Total Failure of the State

Broward County crouch!





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SilentKnight

Football coach Aaron Feis.

Had no gun. No kevlar. No police training.

He did the John Wayne thing. He died a hero saving children...while a sheriff's deputy cowered for up to 5 mins. in a stairway.

We expect police to do their duty - the duty they're sworn to do. To serve and protect.

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Don't forget about the ROTC student..

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EonBlue

That guy is a hero. Could have been an even bigger hero, and possibly lived, if he was armed and had a chance to take out the shooter.

We'll never know.




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Tasty1

why take the risk while the parents probably have an NRA subscription and might also be blamed.

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tony286

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/2...classroom.html

This says it all and one thing I forgot there have been attacks on places that were full of guns,fort Hood and the Navy Yard.Another thing I learned cops in a fire fight miss the target about 50 percent of the time.

bronco67

All of that goes out the window when there's a school full of defenseless children involved. Time to be a hero and put your life on the line instead of taking up a defensive position behind a car.

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bronco67

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The .223 loses forward energy when it goes into living tissue and exerts force in all directions doing max damage.

And nobody goes flying 6 feet when hit with any pistol, shotgun or rifle round. They debunked that on Mythbusters. You've seen too many movies.

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SilentKnight

Exactly.

But this is something the Rochards of the world will never understand. Instead, they'll come up with a littany of excuses why it's okay to hide in a stairwell while innocent kids are being slaughtered.

Some people just make me sick.

beerptrol

It's easy to talk shit on a board. And a whole different thing when you are actually in the middle of it. So keep talking shit how you would have done this or that!

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SilentKnight

You're right. It's very easy to talk shit on a board.

I'm ex-military...combat-trained. I know what I'm capable of.

You?

beerptrol

where as if he was a child molester he'd be running as a republican

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Phoenix

The thing with all of this is that once it starts, you never know how it will go down.
1. IF a teacher/coach is armed, will they be holding their gun all day?
2. IF it is even a trained super soldier ex marine who is now the coach, what if he/she is taking a dump when they hear shots start going off? 2 minutes, or 3 to get to the lock box with their gun. Then what, another minute before they could get to a place to tackle the opposition.

Arming someone inside, unless they are walking around with a gun at all times, is useless. I mean if we really want people walking around with guns, then that is a solution.
Ideally they could control the entrance ways to school property.
Close it off, so that people can exit at multiple points, but to get into school they need to enter in one place. Everyone has to walk through a metal detector, and if need be, a closer inspection.

I live in Korea, and last year one fucknut walked into a school and got naked in the girls washroom. He got arrested.
Since, then try to walk onto a school property here.
They have old men at every entrance at every school. They had it before, but it was lax because nothing much goes on here. All schools are walled and the only entrance is a few gates.

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So the cops, the ones with the training and experience cannot shoot, but if we arm the teachers it will all be good right ?

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Robbie

I think that says a lot...you can NOT count on the cops to protect you or your children.

Most cops WOULD have went in there and put that guy down. But why on Earth would you want to HOPE you get help and then maybe not?

I have a weapon in my home for protection. If anyone breaks in I will kill them. I definitely won't sit there and wait for the cops to arrive while some home invader kills me and my family.

As for "arm the teachers"...NOBODY is saying to "arm the teachers".

Trump's idea is to allow the teachers who are ALREADY licensed firearm owners to CONCEAL carry on campus.

Just like when you get on an airplane...there are Federal Marshalls onboard who have concealed weapons. Nobody knows who they are. It's a deterrent.

If you had the small percentage of teachers who are licensed to carry...and you had them take a couple of courses extra to lay down some ground rules...then nobody would even know which teacher or coach was or was not carrying.

That's the point.

Mass shootings ALWAYS take place in "gun free" zones. Harden the school up and let it be known publicly that schools now have certain people inside who are carrying a concealed weapon...and that will act as a deterrent.

It's better than doing NOTHING...which is what people have done ever since this insanity started getting bad a couple of decades back.

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Rochard

Not even. Trump's "idea" is to pass the bucks down to the states and telling them to have armed guards in the schools - and for the states to pay for it. You know, the same states that cannot afford to pay their teachers a decent wage. Come to think of it, the same states that don't pay their police officers and firemen enough.

It's pretty much the same as his infrastructure plan. It's not a plan, but an "idea" where the states fund infrastructure. If it was that easy, why hasn't the states been doing this for decades?

Zero leadership from the White House.

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tony286

Fort hood and the Navy Yard are gun free zones?

Vendzilla

Horseshit, forthood they werent allowed to wear weapons. Have you ever been on a military base? Not everone is wearing a weapon.

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Vendzilla

Yes they are, all guns are locked down except for base police and guards. Why would someone in a Naval yard wear a gun?

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Robbie

Tony...how ignorant can you be?

Fort Hood was a TERRORIST attack by a radicalized Muslim soldier. And yes, the SOLDIERS in the Fort are not armed. It's a "gun free zone" where only the military police are allowed to carry firearms.

What the fuck do you...with all your high and mighty left-wing pussy pie-in-the-sky bullshit...suggest be done?

Just wait around for Congress to repeal the 2nd amendment? Meanwhile MORE kids get killed????

What is YOUR solution? Or are you just another obstructionist Democrat who doesn't really want to SOLVE anything...but just keep things as they are for political fodder?

Kids are NOT fodder for your political party. Trump said he wants the age limit increased to 21 for long guns, wants bump stocks banned, and wants to harden the schools to STOP this kind of thing from happening.

Tell me ANY President who has actually said they want to do ANYTHING. Obama didn't. Bush didn't. Clinton didn't...NONE of them did.

Now you actually have a President in office who can get people from the NRA to bend to his will and make this happen.

And what are you doing? Arguing against any kind of solution. PURE POLITICS.

Let me ask you this Tony...that Coach who was unarmed and put himself in front of the students and took bullets and died...would you rather have had him armed and able to better defend those kids?

Would you? Or are you saying "NO"...just let him get shot and those kids get shot without even having a fighting chance?

Think about that. What you are saying is disgusting.

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TheDynasty

they should have these in all schools

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Why would someone in a school wear a gun?
Why would someone in a church wear a gun?
Why would someone in a bar wear a gun?
Why would someone...oh you get the idea (actually probably not).

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Vendzilla

I think you are commenting on the wrong post. No one is attacking naval yards. Thats only in your empty head.

Robbie

Because it's your constitutional right to do so.

It's not up to you to tell people what they can and can't do when it's legal.

I think the point being made is...these shooters do not walk into places where people have weapons and start shooting.
They deliberately choose soft targets. And there is no softer target than a "gun free zone".

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SilentKnight

While you were multitasking...somehow the gifs you were fappin' to got included in your reply.

Thanks for the insight to your proclivities.

Vendzilla

No one is saying arm all the teachers, just allowing those that feel comfortable wearing one to do so.
Police are suppose to protect our children, liberals biggest defense of taking away our guns has been that the police will protect us, this proves that to be a myth. For those idiots that say I wouldn't rush a AR15 with a pistol, the cop didn't know that if he never went inside the school and most cops have AR15's in there car, even the motorcycle cops have them.

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