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03-21-2018, 02:32 AM | #51 |
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Research why Serbia went into Bosnia and killed so many Muslims. Not just for me but others reading this.
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Islam was built by Mohammed leading a horde of Arabs and killing all who didn't subjugate to his higher military power. Today where they can they use the same tactics against other Muslims. In Western countries they are bombing, but their main tool is politics electing Muslims into power. The Mayor of London is a Muslims, how many other cities have Muslims running them?
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1) keep a journal...it will help you with being wrong about everything all the time 2) see a good alzheimers doctor to get you some medication
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Why did Serbians invade Bosnia. There you go I made it easier for your addled brain. |
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Maybe he was bombed and blames the US for trying to stop the genocide Serbians were carrying out. |
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1. You believe in an "official" version of events in the same way Tommy believe in Guardian stuff he posted (official on the part of the world where you are from). 2. No one invaded anything, it was the same country in the same way war in Syria is not invading self-proclaimed Islamic state. (or in the same way as US didn't invade "Republic Of Texas " when chasing and killing separatist.) 3. What no one is telling you there is that USA exclusively fired up and helped problems to escalate. Especially in Bosnia, where Croats, Serbs, and Muslims accepted an agreement before all the mess. Guess what, upon getting advice in the USA, Muslim leader retreaded from peace treaty. They knew they are the weakest side there but they needed war go get their "state" they are enjoying now while breeding extremists and Jihadist in Europe. 4. For example, you are somehow missing that USA was dropping and arming Muslims in Tuzla, while there was a peace treaty on power and attempt of de-escalation, then I don't have a real comment. 5. I know, the next things guys like you will mention is Srebrenica, totally neglecting, ignoring what happened there, how Muslims were slaughtering Christian Serbs and then running away in "safe UN zone" under the protection of their western allies for months or even years. 6. As you noticed in Spain, no one supported and armed separatist and there was no war. Of course, Spain is NATO member and a loyal ally of USA. Yugoslavia wasn't NATO member and the population is strongly divided based on a long historical heritage that is beyond comprehension someone coming from a country only few hundred years old. 7. As mentioned, you sincerely believe in one version like other people sincerely believe in other versions. This is when wars and violence starts. What you should ask your Muslim friends that obviously influenced your opinion is what they think about war and country dissolution now, after all these years and was that a smart move. (ask people that actually lived both countries, not some kids born after the war). 8. I won't mention staged massacres like Markale market because it was a prototype of how to get attention, sympathy, and support on a political and military level.Something we are now seeing constantly in all "modern" conflicts and wars (crap about mass graves, poisoning, mass rape, etc). I won't waste time, listing, explaining because I know that people like you won't accept other view and I know very well how propaganda can shape people and their beliefs (and where that goes). 9. At the end, Cruscificio, or whatever his name is (he is on my block list together with Bladewire) is not a real Serb, he is some mixture of a Muslim probably and this is where from his hate toward USA is coming. Not that I care, just mentioning like other things above. Conclusion: things are much more complicated than you have perception, even from a point of a seriously educated people in the area of region history. Now, this was a usual waste of time on GFY, it is better than I've spent it on optimizing some new pages and that's exactly what I am going to do right now.
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I wanted Crusi to admit that the Muslims in Bosnia wanted to be separate. That they had been involved from the beginning and instigated a lot of violence and death. They were just doing what Muslims do all around the world. They came off losing the war and the Coalition forces had to bomb Serbia to stop them. The reason for the Muslims in Bosnia has to be a legacy of the Ottoman Invasion of Europe. They got as far as Vienna and the weather more than anything defeated them. The principles of Ottoman rule in the Balkans |
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But that doesn't entail me to apologize and justify Islamic mass migration to non-Islamic lands. As a general rule, and as history proves it again and again, assimilation is only possible on an individual, not on a group level. And this doesn't take into account an antagonistic civilization. If major hordes of individuals from Islamic civilization in such a short time enter a non-Islamic civilization - it's a recipe for disaster, and a sure clash of civilizations. Not only does our civilization have very little in common with the Islamic civilization, it's moral code is entirely antagonistic to the Islamic moral and ethical code. The Islamic ethics is based on its supremacy. It's not a coincidence that Islam has been in constant conflict and war throughout the history (and still is pretty much whenever in the world there is Islam mixing with non-Islamic population). It is written in its doctrine and DNA. This can perhaps mix on an individual level, but never on a group, and certainly not on an ideological level. Even the nicest Muslim in the world will not save you from the influence Islam as an ideology has over its followers. Quote:
Aftermath the Christians were allowed to return to their homes, given there were any homes left. But Sharia (Islamic rule) was imposed, the Christians could continue to live there under Islamic rule, but became the second class citizens aka "dhimmis". The pressure of living in a second class citizen status forced them, over time, to either convert or to flee. Today, Turkey is 99.7 pct. Islamic, the amount of non-Islamic population perhaps wouldn't be able even to fill the housing that still remains intact since the classical civilization was conquered. The remaining Churches may be visited by tourists. This is a more recent example, but the same faith met pretty much all those (today) Islamic countries outside of the Arabian peninsula (which was originally also inhabited by Jews, Christians and Pagans, but these were cleansed and conquered still throughout Mohammad's life). Today - the Islamization continues mostly in Africa, and in the Western Europe. Quote:
About taking it seriously, to the contrary, I don't think we take it seriously at all, certainly not that seriously as a certain other group, let's see a few examples: Who's demanding Islamic clothing? Who's demanding Halal food? Who's demanding Islamic schools? Who's demanding Sharia courts in Europe? Who's demanding punishment for anybody that criticizes Islam? Involved in frequent law fare aka legal feud against anybody criticizing Islam? Who invented the artificial term "Islamophobia" in order to use it for any criticism of Islam? Who already pretty much bullied the western governments, the corporations, the mass media, the social networks, to basically enforce the Islamic blasphemy laws? (Sharia principle: "no criticism of Islam is allowed") Who's demanding prayer rooms in public square with special plumbing? Who's frequently manifesting their power with mass demonstrations and mass prayer in the public square? Who's staring their first Islamic political parties? Who's the number one group per capita as a perpetrator of "hate crime" Hoaxes in the US? Taking advantage of the fake "victim" status Who did use political correctness to bully Hollywood into not portraying villains in their high budget movies as Muslims? (not kidding, this is documented) Who did use political correctness to bully FBI under Obama to drop all mentions of Islam or Jihad from their counter-terror manuals in 2011? Who recently persuaded Google to alter its search results to prefer more "favorable" results? Who is trying to re-write the history and gets involved in "approval" of educational texts that involve the history if Islam? Who has a network of organizations present in pretty much every western university? Who's financing Islamic literature and sermons in prisons in order to get new converts? (with major success) Again to better understand this, this is all in accordance with the Sharia principle of "establishing command over the Kuffar civilization". Once you submit to one demand, three more demands will follow tomorrow. This I call dedication - btw. have you ever seen just one of those "moderate Muslims" concerned or speaking against any of the above? For sure not, and this has much more effect in advancing the influence of Islam on society than violent Jihad (even the Charlie Hebdo massacre certainly made journalists not to re-post the Mohammad cartoons ever after). Perhaps it is time to take Islam more seriously, now that it's past our doorstep. I may try to address the third point of western intervention as well sometime later.
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my advice to you is to go and visit some islamic countries...you are simply too misinformed...it is a pity you spent so much time researching info that misrepresents factual reality to such an extent... they are going through hard times, the west is not helping at all...most muslims are "religious" and not really religious...mosques are not bursting full...they smoke weed...they drink alcohol...they watch porn and they have hookers (only much more discrete)...they are not plotting against you even if a handful are...they drink lots of tea but not coffee... if a FEW of them are asking for shariah zones/halal shit etc its like that transgender bathroom crap...some people ask for stupid shit but that does not mean much...there is no plot against the west...or the east or anybody else... we have jehovas witnesses (I think) here is serbia and they ring door to door and want to talk about the lord...its no plot...its just dumb asses being dumb asses...
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muhammad created the constitution of medina... the constitution america copied (freedom of religion, etc)
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LOL yeah muslims...Just like Jehovah's Witnesses..they just want to ring your doorbell and talk about islam..that's all...harmless
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Why did he take an army to Mecca to defeat the believers of pagan religions? Who were placing religious artefacts around a meteorite that had smashed into the Earth? Now it's known as the Kaaba Stone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone Black Stone of Mecca, Hajj - Crystalinks Even their myths are fake. It's just a meteorite that fell onto the Earth. Are we to worship other such stones from space? |
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And yes I saw first hand how an Islamic community looks like - in Western Europe, it was puzzling. Exactly THAT first hand experience was the primary reason why I got interested in the topic, in order to establish a criticial view on this issue. And that presence in Europe is frankly the only thing that interests me, I have no business in their lands, apart from as a visitor, or trade. I don't really care how they govern their lands and how many of them will be nice or not. What I've noted above are just some real manifestations of the ideology in practice, in the history, and what's their basis in the doctrine of Islam. These things are real, do exist, do happen, even on a regular basis. But only if one knows the civilization, its foundation and principles can one be able to understand WHY is this happening. That something isn't talked about doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and closing one's eyes doesn't make it go away. Of course there will be various levels of dedication among the followers of ANY ideology, but the principal question would be - why should anyone advocate for an ideology where one has to rely on its followers NOT following it?
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This whole argument is quite silly...
ISIS declared war, the World should declare war back and intern ALL of those suspected of jihhad into POW camps. The guy in South of France yesterday would not have been able to commit 4 murders. Further who is NOT in uniform like this: When arrested should be treated as spy and shot...No different then in World War 2... Simple ;) They try to kill us and we give them shelter and welfare... Stupid ;) |
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you place way too much importance on specific parts of their religion and focus too much on things that are not as prevalent in real life...you guys get a lot of real refugees from buttfuck places, basically rubes and this gives you a skewed picture of what life is really like in islamic countries...for example I am ashamed of most of my country men abroad because most, not all, are dumb ass rednecks...I would not want to live with them either LOL you have to take in to account that journalism is not really about telling the boring truth but more about selling news and getting clicks...sensationalism and fear sell...the boring truth does not...journalism has become a desperate profession and in a world where the internet gives everybody a soap box, the "more interesting" versions of the truth will always win in a sea of soap boxes...
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