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Old 03-19-2018, 07:29 PM   #51
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Dear, TheDynasty.

On March 15th you contacted one of my employees offering to sell her one of my domains that I had let expire.

During that time you offered her a "deal", then set a new price at $2500 on March 16th, then asked her to "make an offer", etc.

This is not cool, TheDynasty. The Domain that you bought, is LiveCamNetwork.net. The name LiveCamNetwork has been associated with me from as early as 1999. It's my brand, it's my soul, it's my big throbbing cock.

It is completely my fault that I let the domain expire, and I am asking you now nicely to please give it back to me. While this domain may now be your "legal" property, it still isn't yours as far as I am concerned. You can have all the laughing and bragging rights you want after this - my pleasure.

No matter who I might disagree with on GFY about anything, one thing I would never do is squat on someone's domain and attempt to hold it for ransom or sell it to one of their employees (WTF?). A domain name, even though its small, is the center of anyone's business idea. It's what they base their business on, brand, even graphics and web design.

You are in the adult business, I am in the adult business. I do business with a few other companies and individuals here, and so do you. I attend a trade show here and there as I'm sure you do too. Wouldn't it be nice to run into each other, shoot the shit and trade cards over a beer one day? If you're business is domains, shit I could even send business your way, but not if you're going to fuck me over.

Please reply here and let me know what you decide.

Since you haven't shown up in this thread yet I'll assume you missed it. However, my employee did confirm you are on GFY, and since I now have your email address, I'll send you a link to make sure you don't miss it.

Thanks and have a nice day.

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Mark I hate to break it to you but those 3 words in any sequence are generic terms. So not much recourse. He should however give you a better price Because the .info .biz etc are available so you're pretty much the only customer...

And on a side note, The Dynasty is a liberal so...What do you expect?

Side note 2. Use a monitoring service?
Side note 3 consolidate your domains into one account, make sure whois is up to date and check often?
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Mark I hate to break it to you but those 3 words in any sequence are generic terms. So not much recourse. He should however give you a better price Because the .info .biz etc are available so you're pretty much the only customer...

And on a side note, The Dynasty is a liberal so...What do you expect?

Side note 2. Use a monitoring service?
Side note 3 consolidate your domains into one account, make sure whois is up to date and check often?
Wow you're really fucked in the head to make every single topic political. Seriously drop it dude fuck
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While I can understand the frustration Mark, the attempt to shame a fellow GFY member who appears to have legally obtained the domain is in poor taste. Every seller has the right to set his or her price. At one point I controlled over 4000 names, and lost a few gems, which I had to buy back or let go. That forced me to organize everything better, so it wouldn't ever happen again.

Decide how important the domain is to you. Make a reasonable counter offer, or consider asking if installments are available. Spread out the payments over 6-12-18 months, and once its paid up, it can be transferred back to you.

Either way, good luck to both parties.
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If I had grabbed one of your domains, I'd donate it to Trump just to piss you off.
Haha... I wouldn't do that, but I would donate a few bucks to a Libbie campaign in your name.


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I'm genuinely sorry to hear that happened to you, Mark.
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. but I must note that it's your fellow Trump hating leftist that did you in.
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I thought Butler changed his ways..
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So he's Chris Butler then? If not, what's his name? What's the domain he's holding hostage?
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What a scumbag. I can see on NameSilo that it's up for auction.

Mark, you have the .com, right? I'd offer $100. If he won't take that I'd tell this clown to eat shit & hire some script kiddies in Belarus to DDoS his sites.

Nah, I'm not the DDoS type.

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Mark I hate to break it to you but those 3 words in any sequence are generic terms. So not much recourse.

Yes I know that.


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He should however give you a better price Because the .info .biz etc are available so you're pretty much the only customer...
It's not the money, it's the point. There are always scumbags in any industry but this is the first time I think I have actually "met" one who is actually a part of the adult community (5000 posts on GFY), and that would still go out of their way to fuck someone over.

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And on a side note, The Dynasty is a liberal so...What do you expect?
My brother actually bought me a Trump for President T-shirt, did you know that? Never wore it.... but I still have it.... hmmm...


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Side note 2. Use a monitoring service?
Side note 3 consolidate your domains into one account, make sure whois is up to date and check often?
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While I can understand the frustration Mark, the attempt to shame a fellow GFY member who appears to have legally obtained the domain is in poor taste.
Hi Nalem, long time no speak. But I don't really care. If someone tried to take credit for your work or ideas, or take advantage of you when you weren't looking, you would be pissed off too I'm sure.


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Every seller has the right to set his or her price.
Absolutely true. If you wanted the name Nalem.com and someone else had it before you, they should fetch a fair price for their intellectual property.

Buf if you had the name Nalem.com already and fell asleep at the wheel, and someone else in your industry grabbed it away from you and then dangled it in front of your face, you'd think they were pretty shitty I bet.

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At one point I controlled over 4000 names, and lost a few gems, which I had to buy back or let go. That forced me to organize everything better, so it wouldn't ever happen again.
That is good advice.

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Decide how important the domain is to you. Make a reasonable counter offer, or consider asking if installments are available. Spread out the payments over 6-12-18 months, and once its paid up, it can be transferred back to you.
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Thanks but no thanks.

Let's Clarify: TheDynasty bought a domain name associated with my brand, and attempted to sell it back at a huge profit. Jen/Tracy emailed him a few times asking him to be cool about this and to give it back to us, but he refused.

Tonight I emailed him the link to this thread. He so far hasn't engaged me in email or engaged me here. He hasn't.

Everyone: Protect your domains, beware of TheDynasty.
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"Of course, he is within his right to do so."

You said it all there. All's fair in love war and business, so long as it's legal. Blame yourself for losing the domain.
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"Of course, he is within his right to do so."

You said it all there. All's fair in love war and business, so long as it's legal. Blame yourself for losing the domain.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The guy doing this is just seeing the beginning of the negative reactions, and actions, he will receive. He's holding the domain ransom for more reasons than money, he feels powerless and holding the domain makes him feel powerful. He doesn't realize how more powerful and how good he'll feel giving the domain back for a small profit of $250.

He needs to just sell the domain back for $250 and have lesson learned for Mark, this way Chris (TheDynasty) will come ahead as being smart & gracious. If he drags this out and let's it fester it's only going to get worse for him.
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A couple hundred bucks would be fair. Come on, do the right thing and don't be a slimeball.
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We can argue whether its legally acceptable etc but it all comes down to decency. We all know people in life whos greed for money comes before anything else. Someone i spoke to on here i got to know on here couldnt renew 4 domains cause he was down on his luck. He offered to transfer the domains over to me if i paid the renewal. These were great aged domains that would have easily made a few thousand dollars. I told him to keep the domains and payed for them. He gave me the money back a month later. And no it was not that scammer thebutcher, it was someone i trusted 100% and knew he would have transferred the domains over. Moral of the story is its your decency on the line
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You been Warned !!! Same as i did ! Don't Deal with Chris no mather what LOL

WOW theDynasty

He is a little Fucking Bitch AND SCAMMER
I have been WARNED and did not listen.... Got bite too

Mark Don't give a fucking penny to this Snake fuck.

FUCK you chris AKA TheDynasty The Broke Ass bitch.
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He is a little Fucking Bitch AND SCAMMER
I have been WARNED and did not listen.... Got bite too

Mark Don't give a fucking penny to this Snake fuck.

FUCK you chris AKA TheDynasty The Broke Ass bitch.
WOW how did he scam you?
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You said it all there. All's fair in love war and business, so long as it's legal. Blame yourself for losing the domain.
That's right Paul - the point of my OP is to help others not to lose their domains, and to remind people that even in good communities, there are always fucking scumbags lurking about.


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A couple hundred bucks would be fair. Come on, do the right thing and don't be a slimeball.
Let me see...hmm...um, NOPE! He thought he was being a smart business person trying to ransom $2500 out of my employee? We now hopefully this stupid stunt of his will cost him some lost business instead.

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WOW theDynasty

He is a little Fucking Bitch AND SCAMMER
I have been WARNED and did not listen.... Got bite too

Mark Don't give a fucking penny to this Snake fuck.

FUCK you chris AKA TheDynasty The Broke Ass bitch.

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A couple hundred bucks would be fair. Come on, do the right thing and don't be a slimeball.
Just to be clear I was calling him a slimeball, not you Mark. I can see why you wouldn't want to pay him a dime.
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Of course, he is within his right to do so. But also of course, he's a fucking scumbag.
A few observations:

1. There's a big difference between a scammer and a scumbag.

2. If you're certain the domain flipper is on GFY, maybe calling him/her a scamming scumbag is not the best negotiation tactic.

3. Do you think your incessant political rants made you a target? Don't get me wrong. You're entitled to post your opinions on US politics all day long. Just like the scamming scumbag is allowed to buy an expired domain hoping for a big payday.
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Just to be clear I was calling him a slimeball, not you Mark. I can see why you wouldn't want to pay him a dime.
No problem MBT. ;)

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You don't like the price; otherwise you'd be happy to get it back.

If he would say "Hey Mark I picked up your domain for $10. Let me give it to you". I would turn around and paypal him a nice bonus for his coolness that would have been more than he expected.


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1. There's a big difference between a scammer and a scumbag.

2. If you're certain the domain flipper is on GFY, maybe calling him/her a scamming scumbag is not the best negotiation tactic.
You're right except for the fact that I'm not negotiating with him. TheDynasty had his chance, and didn't take it. He can go fuck himself.


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3. Do you think your incessant political rants made you a target?
Yes of course it would, but that's too bad, for them. For me personally, I don't decide whether or not to do business with someone based on political or other opinions. I care more about the basics such as value for the money, after-sales support, etc.

I am a huge dickhead on GFY especially when it comes to politics - and so are many others in my opinion. However talking to people in person, or by skype or email, is completely different. I DESTROY Poor Acepimp in Trump threads, but I PM'ed him and posted a love-letter in another thread to let him know.

However, I get what you're saying...

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Don't get me wrong. You're entitled to post your opinions on US politics all day long. Just like the scamming scumbag is allowed to buy an expired domain hoping for a big payday.
Your right but to me, this crosses the line.

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Just pay up ... not worth the aggravation....

I did a thread a few months ago when I wanted to transer an important domain from "Domain System Notices" to Namecheap.

As we all know, there are no fees to pay to the outgoing registrar... But "Domain System Notices" were asking $75.00 US to process the demand . "Domain System Notices" is a reseller of Joker , tried with them to clear up : no answer .

I paid, kept that major domain of a mainstream project ( CMS: condo management system ) and turned the page .

Just saying....
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Just pay up ... not worth the aggravation....

I did a thread a few months ago when I wanted to transer an important domain from "Domain System Notices" to Namecheap.

As we all know, there are no fees to pay to the outgoing registrar... But "Domain System Notices" were asking $75.00 US to process the demand . "Domain System Notices" is a reseller of Joker , tried with them to clear up : no answer .

I paid, kept that major domain of a mainstream project ( CMS: condo management system ) and turned the page .

Just saying....
So you think he should pay $2500 for the .net extension of his main site?
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I might believe in the 'nice bonus" if it had ever happened in life for something I sold.

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Old 03-20-2018, 11:14 AM   #82
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So you think he should pay $2500 for the .net extension of his main site?
Yes... or negotiate a bit. It sucks but it is a very important domain ...

It is tax deductible from his earnings, so half is gov, half is him .

Then be carefull on expiry as well as from which registrar you buy.
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Sorry but here is my view, after a lot of "Ifs":

IF you do not have an important domain on auto-renew you are an idiot and therefore not my problem.

IF your registrar does not give you 30-60 days to retrieve the expired domain get a new registrar, not my problem.

IF your registrar DOES give you a 30 day grace period and you still didn't notice, you're an idiot.

IF this domain is tied to a site that makes you money then see above IFs - and yes, you're an idiot and not my problem.

IF I like you I will give you the 50% dunce discount.
IF I do not like you I will give you the 1% dumbass discount.

Fuck you pay me.
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Sorry but here is my view, after a lot of "Ifs":

IF you do not have an important domain on auto-renew you are an idiot and therefore not my problem.

IF your registrar does not give you 30-60 days to retrieve the expired domain get a new registrar, not my problem.

IF your registrar DOES give you a 30 day grace period and you still didn't notice, you're an idiot.

IF this domain is tied to a site that makes you money then see above IFs - and yes, you're an idiot and not my problem.

IF I like you I will give you the 50% dunce discount.
IF I do not like you I will give you the 1% dumbass discount.

Fuck you pay me.
Wow this is the first time that I see you as a complete asshole.

Thank you for showing me what a piece of shit you really are
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Just pay up ... not worth the aggravation....:
No way, not paying him a dime. I'm not aggravated, just disappointed. I would tell him what I thought of him to his face at a trade show, but he doesn't deserve any cash from me now.


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That sucks man. Hopefully he does the right thing and give you the domain back
He still hasn't bothered to reply to my email or show up in this thread. Maybe he will change his mind, maybe not.

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Sorry but here is my view, after a lot of "Ifs":

IF you do not have an important domain on auto-renew you are an idiot and therefore not my problem.

IF your registrar does not give you 30-60 days to retrieve the expired domain get a new registrar, not my problem.

IF your registrar DOES give you a 30 day grace period and you still didn't notice, you're an idiot.

IF this domain is tied to a site that makes you money then see above IFs - and yes, you're an idiot and not my problem.

IF I like you I will give you the 50% dunce discount.
IF I do not like you I will give you the 1% dumbass discount.

Fuck you pay me.
Honestly it was just one of those domains with expiration email warnings going right to spam. I am an idiot for not seeing it, absolutely, but really, if happened between me and you, I wouldn't kick you when you were down.

By the way, pornnerd.com seems to be squatted on. It would be a good name for you if you can get. Hopefully this isn't owned by "TheDynasty" now either.
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To bad you didnt trademark the name, you would have a cybersquatting case.
I would be curious as to how many companies get service/trademarks.

We recently got one for Vacares. Was not a horrible experience but you're dealing with government bureaucrats so there's a lot of back-and-forth. Took about 6 months all said and done.
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In my case Gmail randomly decided my rarely used domain email was a spam addy. I get hundreds of spam messages a day in my spam folder.

Saying anyone who loses a domain deserves it is bullshit and ignorant.


As usual you're an ignorant fuck.
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Wow! Check out the email he just sent to Jen:



No where in the email exchange between him and Jen (Real name Tracy by the way, some of you have met her before), does she say my name.

"TheDynasty", already knew who I was when he acquired my domain.

Cool guy.

TheDynasty: I just emailed you a link to this thread. Please post here and tell me and everyone else here why you won't give me my domain name.



It's not yours..lol

You've mentioned how it was your life and soul. Yet you let it expire? Haha gtfo.
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I have to say. He is not being a total dick. Offer $1000 and get it back. He might have thought $2500was chump change to you and he was being cool and all.
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Stop mumbling take my dick out of your mouth. Wait... Almost done.. ...
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I would be curious as to how many companies get service/trademarks.

We recently got one for Vacares. Was not a horrible experience but you're dealing with government bureaucrats so there's a lot of back-and-forth. Took about 6 months all said and done.
I trademarked my domain back in 1998 and it was absolutely worth it. In 2000 I had a competitor register 7 different domains that were similar to mine so I filed suit under the Anti Cybersquatting Act and he must have shit himself when he read the ACPA that had been passed the year before because he immediately offered to settle for ten grand and hand all the domains over.
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I have to say. He is not being a total dick. Offer $1000 and get it back. He might have thought $2500was chump change to you and he was being cool and all.
Yes, he's being a total dick. He dropped his price to $1500, but I still said no.

Tonight he told me he will develop the site if I don't buy it. NO PROBLEM. I hope he spends alot of money on it too.

BTW He emailed me at 11:54pm my time, but still hasn't posted here in this thread despite having a 5000k+ post count.

Anyway: I guess we can close this thread. I lost my domain to a dick. Shit happens. If you own domains of your own, PROTECT THEM. Don't lose any like I did.

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am I the only one that uses auto renew?
Mark, Even though You and I do not agree politically, (Your never ending Thrump threads got old long ago), If I had the opportunity to score the domain in question, I would have scored it and then turned it over to you for what it cost me. One year, I scored a domain name, from an auction, for a musician friend of mine. I let him know that I was able to score the domain and gave it to him for a Christmas present.

Side note: I use auto renew on all my domains. For the ones I want to die off, I turn off the auto renew. I learned that lesson the hard way along with others in this thread.
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You're not the good guy.

You push narratives and propaganda, and you got screwed by partisan self-interest. Serves you right.
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Wow this is the first time that I see you as a complete asshole.

Thank you for showing me what a piece of shit you really are
Nah man I'm a sweetheart at heart. I'd probably just give it to him. Don't take late nite 420 rants seriously.

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No way, not paying him a dime. I'm not aggravated, just disappointed. I would tell him what I thought of him to his face at a trade show, but he doesn't deserve any cash from me now.




He still hasn't bothered to reply to my email or show up in this thread. Maybe he will change his mind, maybe not.



Honestly it was just one of those domains with expiration email warnings going right to spam. I am an idiot for not seeing it, absolutely, but really, if happened between me and you, I wouldn't kick you when you were down.

By the way, pornnerd.com seems to be squatted on. It would be a good name for you if you can get. Hopefully this isn't owned by "TheDynasty" now either.
Thanks for the tip. I was approached about it awhile back but they wanted too much for it.

As I said, I'd give the domain back to whoever had it in the first place. But would make sure to remind them to put that thing on auto renew!
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Never knew he had 10$ to pick up a dropped domain. What a career move, from loaning money and forgetting to pay back to taking domains others forget, the reason he does what he does every day just because of his excellent memory.
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Seems like a lot of frustration and time is going into something that wasn't worth 5 seconds of your time to put on auto-renew.

How much was the domain bringing in? Is the time you're wasting on it worth it?

Why not just move on, wait for him to drop the domain and then buy it back? In the meantime, go put your important domains on auto-renewal!
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Mark, Even though You and I do not agree politically, (Your never ending Thrump threads got old long ago), If I had the opportunity to score the domain in question, I would have scored it and then turned it over to you for what it cost me.
(Yes, Trump posts are boring now. I'm done with that I think).

And yes, Thank you, exactly! I don't care who I disagree with on GFY, Your name and brand came from your creative juices, and its yours. It belongs to you, it's just yours, please have it, You're welcome, Nice domain name, let's explore ways to work together. That's me, inside and out, and thats how I'll always be.
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