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Old 06-18-2019, 06:22 AM   #1
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Hey Drax... (and all the other right wingers here on GFY...)

Why are you so silent about this?

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Walter Lübcke murder raises specter of neo-Nazi terrorism
https://www.dw.com/en/walter-l%C3%BC...ism/a-49238157

All you AfD asshats have been celebrating his death over the last weeks - now it turns out it was a Neo Nazi that shot him.

And suddenly all you jerks have fallen completely silent.

How surprising. Not.

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Old 06-18-2019, 06:29 AM   #2
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They publicly go silent EVERY time someone on their team kills, maims or hurts someone but if you go-to their boards they worship these people and celebrate another victory for the "cause".
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Silence - how unexpected...
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This act of terrorsim should be condemned by all !! Anybody charged yet ?
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They publicly go silent EVERY time someone on their team kills, maims or hurts someone
unlike you...
who simply can't shut up, and instead tries to pin the blame on the other team.
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Hi Stefan, happy you took the time to mention me on this one. I have followed this news piece and already made up my mind.

Give me a few hours and I'll share my view, a tad busy right now.
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Some might consider me right, but i am more straight.
I don't know who the guy is.
But as i said before, the nazi's are getting back. And immigration was the fuel.
Is it worth it, a split country over immigrations issues that even has brought back the nazi's?
I think a majority didn't want the immigrants, with this high numbers, and didn't want the nazi's returning.
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This act of terrorsim should be condemned by all !! Anybody charged yet ?
you could read the article I posted...
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Why are you so silent about this?



https://www.dw.com/en/walter-l%C3%BC...ism/a-49238157

All you AfD asshats have been celebrating his death over the last weeks - now it turns out it was a Neo Nazi that shot him.

And suddenly all you jerks have fallen completely silent.

How surprising. Not.

So Stefan, first off I made it very clear before in earlier posts that this isn't going to be stopped unless politicians start acting like they're representing the people, in this case the German people.

Now lets put all the cards on the table.

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In October 2015, Lübcke voiced his support for Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to welcome refugees fleeing the war in Syria, making him a hate figure among the far-right.
https://eu-ocs.com/suspect-arrested-...walter-lubcke/

In October 2015 the now murdered Walter Lübcke (CDU) spoke in what looked like a town meeting for concerned residents regarding an asylum center that was decided to be placed close by.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KedevpXK2qg

In that meeting he said following among other things:

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Wer diese Werte nicht vertritt, kann dieses Land jederzeit verlassen – das ist die Freiheit eines jeden Deutschen.
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Those who do not represent these values ​​can leave this country at any time - that is the freedom of every German.
So Walter points out to concerned German citizens that they can leave the country at any time unless completely surrendering to the generous immigration laws set in place by the government (Angela Merkel).

Stefan, can you imagine a politician in America say that to Americans? Holy fuck they'd call him a traitor of the state and then be done with him.

Angela Merkel was the leader at the time and if she ever was a sharp leader she'd have a talk with Walter and make sure he would apologize for that. Instead nothing happened, no one said anything and this completely moronic statement telling Germans they can leave their home country could just pass by while citizens continue being angry feeling left out of the democratic process.

Seriously Stefan are you surprised?

According to news an NPD (Neo Nazis) supporter whacked him.

My view is that he was a traitor of Germany and I don't feel any sympathy, that's the hard cold truth Stefan. Don't be alarmed it was just a matter of time and it could've been stopped if only the politicians started listening to people.

The lies goes too deep now unfortunately...
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So one Right Wing mad man shoots someone. While lots of Islamic terrorists carry out killings in Europe.
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So one Right Wing mad man shoots someone. While lots of Islamic terrorists carry out killings in Europe.
Did you catch what this politician said at a town meeting in 2015?
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is the far right of Germany today.

With someone like Drax even spelling it out for everyone.

You say something they don't like? Death threats it is.

Or at least agreeing openly, this week two more politicians who have been already previously attacked and injured by right wing terrorists have once again received death threats.

And people like Paul following the typical right wing narrative: If it's one of them, it's a mad man - if it's a muslim, it's all muslims.

And Drax: You might not like what Walter Lübcke said - and I think it was poorly worded and probably said out of an emotional place on that event - but fuck you for justifying his murder.

People like you are the real traitors because you betray everything that we should have learned about 1933-45 and what the German constitution stands for since then.

I'll type it out for you, you asshat:

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(1) Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar. Sie zu achten und zu schützen ist Verpflichtung aller staatlichen Gewalt.
(2) Das Deutsche Volk bekennt sich darum zu unverletzlichen und unveräußerlichen Menschenrechten als Grundlage jeder menschlichen Gemeinschaft, des Friedens und der Gerechtigkeit in der Welt.
(3) Die nachfolgenden Grundrechte binden Gesetzgebung, vollziehende Gewalt und Rechtsprechung als unmittelbar geltendes Recht.
These are the very values you betray while you pretend to "defend" them.

Laughable.


PS: There is a post in a different thread on here that I could possibly interpret as death threat against me: https://gfy.com/22486674-post25.html

I guess you are also ok with that?

Just checking - cause no one on the internet is as anonymous as they think and laws also apply here.
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you could read the article I posted...
Stefan "E" ( not G) was arrested, NOT charged yet, which was my question. So, "you could read my post".
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4 years after "wir schaffen das". The neo nazi's are back and killing politicians. In Norway Breivnik killed children of left politicians, the left in Holland already killed a potential new president and threatening others. And there are more walls in Europe than during the cold war. Some crazy right wings in charge in some countries and some crazy left wings in others And that because of illegal immigrants.

Thanks Merkel


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I am not surprised a politician got killed. More will follow i think and the bullet can come from the left or the right.
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4 years after "wir schaffen das". The neo nazi's are back and killing politicians. In Norway Breivnik killed children of left politicians, the left in Holland already killed a potential new president and threatening others. And there are more walls in Europe than during the cold war. Some crazy right wings in charge in some countries and some crazy left wings in others And that because of illegal immigrants.

Thanks Merkel


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I am not surprised a politician got killed. More will follow i think and the bullet can come from the left or the right.
again: it is NOT "thanks to merkel" it is thanks to all those that did not stand for the contracts they have signed and what are high values in their own constitutions.

it is easy to be a leader of a country and give a shit on what another government have signed before. we see that right now under trump.

angela merkel is not one of them and the one and only mistake she did was to believe in signed contracts. THIS is why germany and a few others had to shoulder the whole package.

so don´t blame her - blame the ones who have been in the same OBLIGATION and gave a flying fart.
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4 years after "wir schaffen das". The neo nazi's are back and killing politicians. In Norway Breivnik killed children of left politicians, the left in Holland already killed a potential new president and threatening others. And there are more walls in Europe than during the cold war. Some crazy right wings in charge in some countries and some crazy left wings in others And that because of illegal immigrants.

Thanks Merkel


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I am not surprised a politician got killed. More will follow i think and the bullet can come from the left or the right.
you are a tex tourist that goes to 3rd world countries where you can fuck for cheap and here you play the dutch nationalist. your opinions have no value to me.
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again: it is NOT "thanks to merkel" it is thanks to all those that did not stand for the contracts they have signed and what are high values in their own constitutions.

it is easy to be a leader of a country and give a shit on what another government have signed before. we see that right now under trump.

angela merkel is not one of them and the one and only mistake she did was to believe in signed contracts. THIS is why germany and a few others had to shoulder the whole package.

so don´t blame her - blame the ones who have been in the same OBLIGATION and gave a flying fart.
wiki says different
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_schaffen_das
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-...angela-merkel/

She said WIR, and not; EU will das schaffen.

And Trump does as much for the climate as Merkel.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-angela-merkel
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you are a tex tourist that goes to 3rd world countries where you can fuck for cheap and here you play the dutch nationalist. your opinions have no value to me.
Nationalist cause i see that the immigration issues split the whole of Europe?
And that i say it for years that it will divide Europe.
And that i don't like to see the EU divided, but the politicians do everything to make that the only option?
Everybody with some brains could see that coming. And it will only get worse.

Of course i have sex during my travels, you think i am going to jerk all the time But no need to pay for it, nice woman everywhere. The word sex-tourist is so old, nowadays you see expat girls picking up go go bar girls... And female backpackers that like the asian or latin sexperience and make love with all bartenders. I am sure you went to Phuket and paid some barfines. You are not insulting me, maybe you are insulting Thommy with your views?
Didn't you move to another country to pimp out foreign woman into acting in pornmovies?
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she said that AFTER she found out that near to nobody stands for the sign they set under the geneva refugee contract.

BUT she did not see that as a reason for doing the same.

NL also did not sweden did not France did not and spain did not and a few other like greece that had an additional problem with them.

the question of humanity or not humanity is not connected to "can" or "want" or "in the mode". if you see an accident on the roads and you do not help you go to jail - you can not say that others did the same.

if this burden would have been dispensed on all she shoulders that have signed to carry it - we would not even discuss this matter here.

so merkel is the wrong you are blaming.
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Nationalist cause i see that the immigration issues split the whole of Europe?
And that i say it for years that it will divide Europe.
And that i don't like to see the EU divided, but the politicians do everything to make that the only option?
Everybody with some brains could see that coming. And it will only get worse.

Of course i have sex during my travels, you think i am going to jerk all the time But no need to pay for it, nice woman everywhere. The word sex-tourist is so old, nowadays you see expat girls picking up go go bar girls... And female backpackers that like the asian or latin sexperience and make love with all bartenders. I am sure you went to Phuket and paid some barfines. You are not insulting me, maybe you are insulting Thommy with your views?
Didn't you move to another country to pimp out foreign woman into acting in pornmovies?

whatever Thommy or me did - whether it is true what you say or not - neither of us claims to be any better because of heritage or genetics. And we both prefer an open and liberal society without the risk of getting shot because some nazi doesn't agree with us.

while you seem to have no problem with that
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whatever Thommy or me did - whether it is true what you say or not - neither of us claims to be any better because of heritage or genetics. And we both prefer an open and liberal society without the risk of getting shot because some nazi doesn't agree with us.

while you seem to have no problem with that
When didn't i say i don't have a problem with people shot? Another framing.
Who claims to be better cause of heritage or genetics?
Must i start crying cause somebody i never heard of got shot?
I am just not surprised, like a said i expect more killing from bullets from the left, right, and migrants. We all had that already in Holland. But only right wing politician killed yet. (and people asking to kill more right politicians.
And it is mostly caused by the refugee problems and the different views how to handle it.


I didn't think it was a good idea to take them all in, looking how it went with previous 'refugees' that entered the country. And you know, the majority of Europe agrees with this view. Else they wouldn't have put up walls and make a deal with Turkey about refugees. But i am a nationalist ..... Than all the leaders must be nationalists..

And why didn't most people want these 'solutions', cause you will never will be able to sent them back to their country when it is safe. And statistics show the willingness to go to work is low.. And you stimulate human trafficking and people dying on the sea that try to come to Europe.
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When didn't i say i don't have a problem with people shot? Another framing.
Who claims to be better cause of heritage or genetics?
Must i start crying cause somebody i never heard of got shot?
I am just not surprised, like a said i expect more killing from bullets from the left, right, and migrants. We all had that already in Holland. But only right wing politicians killed yet.
And it is mostly cause by the refugee problems and the different views how to handle it.


I didn't think it was a good idea to take them all in, looking how it went with previous 'refugees' that entered the country. And you know, the majority of Europe agrees with this view. Else they wouldn't have put up walls and make a deal with Turkey about refugees. But i am a nationalist ..... Than all the leaders must be nationalists..

And why didn't most people want these 'solutions', cause you will never will be able to sent them back to their country when it is safe. And statistics show the willingness to go to work is low.. And you stimulate human trafficking and people dying on the sea that try to come to Europe.
look for now we are atlking about a relative small problem.
today i talked to some friend here who came back from new dehli and he told me that they run entirely out of water in this city.
this problem will face whole india soon.

now imagine what happens when the country with the highest poulation on earth runs out of water. nearly 1,4 billion people have the choice to die or try to get into other countries where there is still water.

how do you want to deal with that?
nuke them?
india is a nuclear power.

what we are seeing today is just the beginning.
if we do not learn to deal with that somehow - if we do not learn to live in peace together - it is the end of the human race.
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look for now we are atlking about a relative small problem.
today i talked to some friend here who came back from new dehli and he told me that they run entirely out of water in this city.
this problem will face whole india soon.

now imagine what happens when the country with the highest poulation on earth runs out of water. nearly 1,4 billion people have the choice to die or try to get into other countries where there is still water.

how do you want to deal with that?
nuke them?
india is a nuclear power.

what we are seeing today is just the beginning.
if we do not learn to deal with that somehow - if we do not learn to live in peace together - it is the end of the human race.
What do you want the EU to say: "wit schaffen das" and get millions of people in? How long will that stand without civil war and shortage of everything? Or do we just let in some rich Indians?

How i would deal with that:

1 - say the must stop producing more than 1 child, like the chinese 1 child policy. If someone wants more children, they can buy a certificate from me that i won't have children, so they can compensate.

2 - Say that if they are able to spent billions on nuclear weapons they better use it to get drinking water from seawater. With 1,4 billion people the sealevel will drop, so another problem solved. It could be just as simpel by boiling ocean water.

3 - sent condoms sterilisation equipment, and scaring that if they have more children due to the CO2 impact that the world will be destroyed by 50 meter high waves.

4 - Not saying to them "wir schaffen das" and sent boats to pick them up.

5 - split the big cities in smaller cities that are more widespread.

6 - say that they must stop putting all the waste in the rivers and make good irrigation systems.

7 - say that if they keep voting corrupt politicians they will die of thirst.

8 - sell them Heineken


"India's water crisis is often attributed to lack of government planning, increased corporate privatization, industrial and human waste and government corruption. In addition, water scarcity in India is expected to worsen as the overall population is expected to increase to 1.6 billion by year 2050."
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What do you want the EU to say: "wit schaffen das" and get millions of people in? How long will that stand without civil war and shortage of everything?

How i would deal with that:

1 - say the must stop producing more than 1 child, like the chinese 1 child policy. If someone wants more children, they can buy a certificate from me that i won't have children, so they can compensate.

2 - Say that if they are able to spent billions on nuclear weapons they better use it to get drinking water from seawater. With 1,4 billion people the sealevel will drop, so another problem solved.

3 - sent condoms sterilisation equipment, and scaring that if they have more children due to the CO2 impact that the world will be destroyed by 50 meter high waves.

4 - Not saying to them "wir schaffen das" and sent boats to pick them up.

5 - split the big cities in smaller cities that are more widespread.

6 - say that they must stop putting all the waste in the rivers and make good irrigation systems.

7 - sell them Heineken


"India's water crisis is often attributed to lack of government planning, increased corporate privatization, industrial and human waste and government corruption. In addition, water scarcity in India is expected to worsen as the overall population is expected to increase to 1.6 billion by year 2050."
i would say "go and tell them" and all is fine !

it will not help as this people do not have the education to understand it.

the only way to resolve that is a long long way

1. don´t make them our enemies by helping them
2. accepting that WE have created this problem - without us they would not even have waste.
3. educate them. if it is not possible IN their countries let´s take them and educate them here. they'll be the seed for a new tree.

the alternative is quite easy and obvious: the end of the planet and the end of all life on earth. wich one is the better solution?
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i would say "go and tell them" and all is fine !

it will not help as this people do not have the education to understand it.

the only way to resolve that is a long long way

1. don´t make them our enemies by helping them
2. accepting that WE have created this problem - without us they would not even have waste.
3. educate them. if it is not possible IN their countries let´s take them and educate them here. they'll be the seed for a new tree.

the alternative is quite easy and obvious: the end of the planet and the end of all life on earth. wich one is the better solution?
- They are able to create nuclear weapons but not able to do a study Water Management somewehere? Just like their neighbours, able to steal nuclear information from Holland, but not able to steal a book about water management?
- They are too stupid to look online how other countries solve these problems?
- You must not educate them 'here', they will not return cause EU like to braindrain those countries and offer good jobs in Germany when they finished their study 'here'.
- They are too stupid to realize you must not put waste in the water? The rest of the world found that out 200 years ago that that is a bad idea.
- There are already billions of euro's invested of our money. And that while i see many indians able to travel, work and study around the world.
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/fe...ater-resources
- Does your condos have a sewer system to clean the water, or just dumping it directly on the beach in Pattaya like all apartment complexes and hotels? Than YOU might be part of the problem.
- WE did not create this problem. We didn't make all those woman pregnant and being stupid. Or is it in their genes that they are stupid.

It will solve itself, they are so dirty that their holy river ganges is full of waste and dead bodies. Let their god protect them. I am sure there will be some disease when they keep poluting. Maybe when they see that they realize it is stupid to pollute rivers and not making plans to hold water. That is when the people in Europe started thinking after a lot of people died of diseases.And i am sure there must be some educated people in India to know how to solve the problem.

But feel free to sent your money there.

"The economy of India is a developing mixed economy.[33] It is the world's seventh-largest economy by nominal GDP and the third-largest by purchasing power parity (PPP). The country ranks 139th in per capita GDP (nominal) with $2,134 and 122nd in per capita GDP (PPP) with $7,783 as of 2018.[34][35] After the 1991 economic liberalisation, India achieved 6-7% average GDP growth annually. Since 2014 with the exception of 2017, India's economy has been the world's fastest growing major economy, surpassing China.[36] "

"India has traditionally been seen as a country that sends rather than receives international students, but a large number of students from elsewhere are now choosing to study in India, with the country welcoming more than 30,000 international students every year."

"With the world’s second largest population (after China), and a fast-growing and influential economy, it’s unsurprising that India’s higher education system has undergone rapid expansion over the past few decades. India now has one of the largest higher education systems in the world (after China and the US) – "

You must be really depressive thinking that the whole world comes to an end and all life on earth disappears. And still you fly around the world.

And you think as white privileged man that the Indians are stupid and 'we' must save them?
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So one Right Wing mad man shoots someone. While lots of Islamic terrorists carry out killings in Europe.
One? Maybe you should open your fucking eyes...
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Did you catch what this politician said at a town meeting in 2015?
No do you have a link in English?
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is the far right of Germany today.

With someone like Drax even spelling it out for everyone.

You say something they don't like? Death threats it is.

Or at least agreeing openly, this week two more politicians who have been already previously attacked and injured by right wing terrorists have once again received death threats.

And people like Paul following the typical right wing narrative: If it's one of them, it's a mad man - if it's a muslim, it's all muslims.

And Drax: You might not like what Walter Lübcke said - and I think it was poorly worded and probably said out of an emotional place on that event - but fuck you for justifying his murder.

People like you are the real traitors because you betray everything that we should have learned about 1933-45 and what the German constitution stands for since then.

I'll type it out for you, you asshat:



These are the very values you betray while you pretend to "defend" them.

Laughable.


PS: There is a post in a different thread on here that I could possibly interpret as death threat against me: https://gfy.com/22486674-post25.html

I guess you are also ok with that?

Just checking - cause no one on the internet is as anonymous as they think and laws also apply here.
You don't need to say anything to be shot by an Islamic terrorist. Do you want to list all the Right Wing atrocities and compare it with the Islamic terrorist ones? Or is your excuse you don't have time or can't be asked?

I'm anti all killings, but that's not what I have against the lax immigration of the West and the liberal press telling us how bad it is for the immigrants. Until they fix their problems they will keep coming so unless you're going to impose a cap on how many can enter the West, you're wrong. Also the level of skills if most immigrants means they can't do skilled jobs, which puts a stain on the West. Then there are the social issues. What if some immigrants refuse to integrate into Western culture and try to impose their culture in the areas they live?

Give us one good excuse for accepting millions from the 3rd world.
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What do you want the EU to say: "wit schaffen das" and get millions of people in? How long will that stand without civil war and shortage of everything? Or do we just let in some rich Indians?

How i would deal with that:

1 - say the must stop producing more than 1 child, like the chinese 1 child policy. If someone wants more children, they can buy a certificate from me that i won't have children, so they can compensate.

2 - Say that if they are able to spent billions on nuclear weapons they better use it to get drinking water from seawater. With 1,4 billion people the sealevel will drop, so another problem solved. It could be just as simpel by boiling ocean water.

3 - sent condoms sterilisation equipment, and scaring that if they have more children due to the CO2 impact that the world will be destroyed by 50 meter high waves.

4 - Not saying to them "wir schaffen das" and sent boats to pick them up.

5 - split the big cities in smaller cities that are more widespread.

6 - say that they must stop putting all the waste in the rivers and make good irrigation systems.

7 - say that if they keep voting corrupt politicians they will die of thirst.

8 - sell them Heineken


"India's water crisis is often attributed to lack of government planning, increased corporate privatization, industrial and human waste and government corruption. In addition, water scarcity in India is expected to worsen as the overall population is expected to increase to 1.6 billion by year 2050."
No, the Left think they should all come here to be "educated".
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One? Maybe you should open your fucking eyes...
Do you want to compare killing between the Right and Islamic Terrorists?
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whatever Thommy or me did - whether it is true what you say or not - neither of us claims to be any better because of heritage or genetics. And we both prefer an open and liberal society without the risk of getting shot because some nazi doesn't agree with us.

while you seem to have no problem with that
We are better because of our culture.
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is the far right of Germany today.

With someone like Drax even spelling it out for everyone.

You say something they don't like? Death threats it is.

Or at least agreeing openly, this week two more politicians who have been already previously attacked and injured by right wing terrorists have once again received death threats.

And people like Paul following the typical right wing narrative: If it's one of them, it's a mad man - if it's a muslim, it's all muslims.

And Drax: You might not like what Walter Lübcke said - and I think it was poorly worded and probably said out of an emotional place on that event - but fuck you for justifying his murder.

People like you are the real traitors because you betray everything that we should have learned about 1933-45 and what the German constitution stands for since then.

I'll type it out for you, you asshat:



These are the very values you betray while you pretend to "defend" them.

Laughable.


PS: There is a post in a different thread on here that I could possibly interpret as death threat against me: https://gfy.com/22486674-post25.html

I guess you are also ok with that?

Just checking - cause no one on the internet is as anonymous as they think and laws also apply here.
So the right in Germany is basically the left in the US? You basically described Democrat’s here in the states.
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Stefan, don’t you also (or didn’t you) go to a third world country to fuck (and create content) for cheap? Pretty ironic that you’d use that sort of thing to disparage someone else when you’ve done the same thing.
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Did you catch what this politician said at a town meeting in 2015?
so you believe that what this guy said in 2015 made him a right radical killer?

explain me than why

1. this guy was first time arrested at the end of the 80s for right radical violence.
2. Why he went to jail 1992 for attacking a foreigner
3. Why he was jailed again 1993 because of a failed bomb attack on an asylum seeker home.
4. why he have joined the national democratic party (meanwhile forbidden) in 2000
5. why he was convicted again in 2009 for assaulting an approved rally

no no - no excuses - you guys have been dirt always - are dird and will be dirt til you die.
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Stefan it's easy for the Left Wing to crush the Right.All they have to do is set up a decent structure for vetting and accepting non-EU immigrants the people want.

As long as they refuse to and keep making mistakes like Merkel made the Right will grow.
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I don't like politicians shot, that is how things go out of hand and end in chaos and more people killing others.
But i see that people keep divided altough they see the trouble they create.

But it is 'funny' how in this topic we should help India. One of the most racist countries.

You can sent them water (while they could fix it themselves if they wheren't so corrupt and give the highest castes the most). But it will end in the hands of the highest Caste. The lower caste will get nothing, they even get killed when they try to dig a hole to get water out of the ground. The lower caste will always be less than the above classes and nothing they can do about it, just hoping to reincarnate in a higher caste. Well, the lower caste finaly started resisting. But that shows how the water problem will be solved there, they just let their own people in a lower caste die from thirst.

If i think about that, i think a big bloody cival war is needed to stop their ridicilous hindu religion and caste system. (or the uprising of a new Ghandi). Another religion i think that is inferior to my non-religion. But you can not say that also, that is racism. You can be racist, as long as it is part of your religion. Than it is okay and you must respect it. Who do you let study in the EU? If you let the lower caste study in Europe it is for nothing. They will never get a better job, they are born to clean the shit of others. So you must get the higher class, that probaly has no problems paying for drinking water, studies, cause they own the majority of the economy and the lower castes are their slaves.
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is the far right of Germany today.

With someone like Drax even spelling it out for everyone.

You say something they don't like? Death threats it is.

Or at least agreeing openly, this week two more politicians who have been already previously attacked and injured by right wing terrorists have once again received death threats.

And people like Paul following the typical right wing narrative: If it's one of them, it's a mad man - if it's a muslim, it's all muslims.

And Drax: You might not like what Walter Lübcke said - and I think it was poorly worded and probably said out of an emotional place on that event - but fuck you for justifying his murder.

People like you are the real traitors because you betray everything that we should have learned about 1933-45 and what the German constitution stands for since then.

I'll type it out for you, you asshat:



These are the very values you betray while you pretend to "defend" them.

Laughable.


PS: There is a post in a different thread on here that I could possibly interpret as death threat against me: https://gfy.com/22486674-post25.html

I guess you are also ok with that?

Just checking - cause no one on the internet is as anonymous as they think and laws also apply here.
No I don't like what he said Stefan and he should've been fired for talking in that way and Merkel or some other high profile politician should have gone out and apologized for it. The situation really nicely frames the arrogance and hypocritical lifestyle of the politicians.

The fact you defend him that he might have used words poorly and/or being emotional is exactly the political correct bullshit we're getting tired of.

He's telling German tax payers, they always have the option to leave the country if the politics that is pushed down their throats doesn't fancy them.

You Stefan and Lübcke both have completely failed to understand the duty of a politician. It's about representing the voters, people and the countries best interest.

I said Lübcke is a traitor and I can say it again, based on what I just stated he is.

Prove me wrong?...

The second world war ended 75 years ago, it's wrong on so many levels to let that affect how you think and express yourself today. But that's in the exact position German puppet politicians wants you to be: subdued.

Call me what you want Stefan, I don't care but I do know what MSM wants you to believe.
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No do you have a link in English?
No I don't

But to summarize, In October 2015 the now murdered Walter Lübcke (CDU) spoke in what looked like a town meeting for concerned residents regarding an asylum center that was decided to be placed close by. In that meeting he said the following among other things:

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Wer diese Werte nicht vertritt, kann dieses Land jederzeit verlassen – das ist die Freiheit eines jeden Deutschen.
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Those who do not represent these values ​​can leave this country at any time - that is the freedom of every German.
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So Stefan, first off I made it very clear before in earlier posts that this isn't going to be stopped unless politicians start acting like they're representing the people, in this case the German people.

Now lets put all the cards on the table.



https://eu-ocs.com/suspect-arrested-...walter-lubcke/

In October 2015 the now murdered Walter Lübcke (CDU) spoke in what looked like a town meeting for concerned residents regarding an asylum center that was decided to be placed close by.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KedevpXK2qg

In that meeting he said following among other things:



Translated into:



So Walter points out to concerned German citizens that they can leave the country at any time unless completely surrendering to the generous immigration laws set in place by the government (Angela Merkel).

Stefan, can you imagine a politician in America say that to Americans? Holy fuck they'd call him a traitor of the state and then be done with him.

Angela Merkel was the leader at the time and if she ever was a sharp leader she'd have a talk with Walter and make sure he would apologize for that. Instead nothing happened, no one said anything and this completely moronic statement telling Germans they can leave their home country could just pass by while citizens continue being angry feeling left out of the democratic process.

Seriously Stefan are you surprised?

According to news an NPD (Neo Nazis) supporter whacked him.

My view is that he was a traitor of Germany and I don't feel any sympathy, that's the hard cold truth Stefan. Don't be alarmed it was just a matter of time and it could've been stopped if only the politicians started listening to people.

The lies goes too deep now unfortunately...

Remember this German Mayor traitor. Telling German parents, it is not the muslim's fault they are sexual harassing German kids. It is the kids fault for wearing regular clothes!!! He then told the parents not to go in that part of town anymore. He saying basically it isn't your town or country anymore. Hang all traitors, don't care what anyone calls me!!!!!!

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No I don't

But to summarize, In October 2015 the now murdered Walter Lübcke (CDU) spoke in what looked like a town meeting for concerned residents regarding an asylum center that was decided to be placed close by. In that meeting he said the following among other things:



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Those who do not represent these values ​​can leave this country at any time - that is the freedom of every German.
Illegal immigrants who were placed in the Czech Republic soon left and went to Germany. The welfare was better in Germany.
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Illegal immigrants who were placed in the Czech Republic soon left and went to Germany. The welfare was better in Germany.
ILLEGALS immigrants are not allowed to enter germany.

do you know how many of the refugees are ILLEGAL ?

you will not find the answer because the difference between an immigrant and a refugee is that an immigrant have to get his visa BEFORE he enters the country.

a refugee does not have time to get a visa - often they do not even have time to get a passport.

and now find somebody who ready for you the geneve refugee convention. maybe you will understand than that EVERY HUMAN BEEING IN THE WORLD CAN ENTER EVERY FUCKING COUNTRY WITH OR WITHOUT PAPERS AND ASK FOR ASYLUM.

it is a HUMAN RIGHT, moron, signed by ALL OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES

Ägypten
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and BTW look here the difference in "wellfare" they receive



and EXPLAIN ME how a refugee can have this wonderful life in germany with 322 euro per month.
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Thommy you idiot, your main purpose is well known by now, photoshop everything nice and pretty. Everyone else with an open mind see's how fucked up and sloppy the system behaves. Then the main question goes, how many illegal immigrants are hiding in Germany?

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Germany: 38,000 illegal immigrants caught by Federal Police

Figures seen by DW show how many people were caught by German Federal Police after they entered the country illegally between January and November 2018. The total number of illegal arrivals is probably higher.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-38000-...ice/a-47282792

Holy fuck what a mess, giving tax money to bribe the luxury immigrants to leave for their home country and you retards are upset over the right.

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Germany has been flooded this holiday season with billboards offering illegal migrants a bribe to leave — free rent for a year at home.

“Your country. Your future. Now!” displayed in seven languages, jumps off nearly 2,500 screens in 80 cities.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...a-year-at-home

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and EXPLAIN ME how a refugee can have this wonderful life in germany with 322 euro per month.
That is the money they get when they arrive, with free food and a place to stay. After that they get the ´normal´ wellfare amounts, a social house where locals have to wait at least 15 years for, money to decorate the house, child support, free medicare, pension when over 67, study, …., ….,... and than the rest of the family comes over.

One of the biggest problems at the moment is people coming from Morocco asking for asylum. They have to wait for months to get the result that they are not allowed and in the meantime they rob, steal and plunder.

When asylum is not granted to people they become illegal, but won't leave the country and nobody forces them. Therefor some cities made "Bed & Bread" centers where illegals and 'undocumented' can stay for some more years while the city helps them proceeding for many more years to get asylum (on cost of the society).

'fun' fact, in Amsterdam in a neighbourhood with 'green left' voters a 69 year woman is raped and beaten to death by an illegal 'undocumented' asylum seeker 2 weeks ago. And the green left mayor just decided that in that neighbourhood will come a "bed and bread" with 50 - 100 undocumented illegal 'refugees'. Now they start protesting, Would you let your children play there… To prevent more people raped and beaten to death they cut down some trees and bushes. Not that that makes a difference, nobody dares to go in the park at night and the woman was raped in a place without bushes, but the bushes must be gone, and the illegals can stay.
PS; the bushes where cut short, till 10 years ago the Green-Left party wanted an eco-zone. While the neighbourhood protested that it would make the place more dangerous… yes, the same people that now said the bushes must be cut to for safety.

And than being back to the topic. Would you shoot down the mayor who is responsabele for this Bed & Bread when the illegals would have raped and killed your elderly mother or child ?... I bet the "bed & bread' will be burnt down when it happens again, or before it opens. Now they are protesting and hope it won't open next month. PS; the bed and bread is full of young man, undocumented, nobody knows their real names and it looks now that Holland has let it all criminals and terrorist cause they couldn't check everyone during the 'refugee crisis', just like people said before and what the government always denied. Most of the people can't move out of that neighbourhood, getting a rental house in Amsterdam can take up to 15 - 20 years… I think it is a ticking bomb, we will see...
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That is the money they get when they arrive, with free food and a place to stay. After that they get the ´normal´ wellfare amounts, a social house where locals have to wait at least 15 years for, money to decorate the house, child support, free medicare, pension when over 67, study, …., ….,... and than the rest of the family comes over.

One of the biggest problems at the moment is people coming from Morocco asking for asylum. They have to wait for months to get the result that they are not allowed and in the meantime they rob, steal and plunder.

When asylum is not granted to people they become illegal, but won't leave the country and nobody forces them. Therefor some cities made "Bed & Bread" centers where illegals and 'undocumented' can stay for some more years while the city helps them proceeding for many more years to get asylum (on cost of the society).

'fun' fact, in Amsterdam in a neighbourhood with 'green left' voters a 69 year woman is raped and beaten to death by an illegal 'undocumented' asylum seeker 2 weeks ago. And the green left mayor just decided that in that neighbourhood will come a "bed and bread" with 50 - 100 undocumented illegal 'refugees'. Now they start protesting, Would you let your children play there… To prevent more people raped and beaten to death they cut down some trees and bushes. Not that that makes a difference, nobody dares to go in the park at night and the woman was raped in a place without bushes, but the bushes must be gone, and the illegals can stay.
PS; the bushes where cut short, till 10 years ago the Green-Left party wanted an eco-zone. While the neighbourhood protested that it would make the place more dangerous… yes, the same people that now said the bushes must be cut to for safety.

And than being back to the topic. Would you shoot down the mayor who is responsabele for this Bed & Bread when the illegals would have raped and killed your elderly mother or child ?... I bet the "bed & bread' will be burnt down when it happens again, or before it opens. Now they are protesting and hope it won't open next month. PS; the bed and bread is full of young man, undocumented, nobody knows their real names and it looks now that Holland has let it all criminals and terrorist cause they couldn't check everyone during the 'refugee crisis', just like people said before and what the government always denied. Most of the people can't move out of that neighbourhood, getting a rental house in Amsterdam can take up to 15 - 20 years… I think it is a ticking bomb, we will see...
this is simply NOT TRUE.

the rate the refugees receive is WIDE below the social assistance rate in germany. the said 322 euro they receive as MAXIMUM cash benefits include MAXIMUM 135 euro pocket money. the rest is a maximum lump sum for the use of public transport. this will in most cases not even suffice as they MUST BE REGULARlLY present at offices.
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Old 06-23-2019, 04:54 AM   #45
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Thommy you idiot, your main purpose is well known by now, photoshop everything nice and pretty. Everyone else with an open mind see's how fucked up and sloppy the system behaves. Then the main question goes, how many illegal immigrants are hiding in Germany?



https://www.dw.com/en/germany-38000-...ice/a-47282792

Holy fuck what a mess, giving tax money to bribe the luxury immigrants to leave for their home country and you retards are upset over the right.



https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...a-year-at-home

i don´t need to photoshop anything, you honk !

go and educate yourself or search for the picture in google if you are smart enough how to do that, you human garbage.

i am so tired from all your lies and fake news. you are so full of shit and lies.
go fuck yourself !
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Illegal immigrants who were placed in the Czech Republic soon left and went to Germany. The welfare was better in Germany.
They actually used government money to rent a fancy buses and departed... Good riddance..
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this is simply NOT TRUE.

the rate the refugees receive is WIDE below the social assistance rate in germany. the said 322 euro they receive as MAXIMUM cash benefits include MAXIMUM 135 euro pocket money. the rest is a maximum lump sum for the use of public transport. this will in most cases not even suffice as they MUST BE REGULARlLY present at offices.
After they get their permanent visa after 1 - 5 years they get the same rights as dutch people, so full wellfare, child support, a house, a few thousand to decorate their house. Why do you think they don´t want to return... and why do you think a lot are criminal when they receive the minimum when they arrove? There are small cities in Holland like Ter Apel where there is an asylum center and the 'refugees' go in the shops and steal. It is even so that the government paid of some shop owners and no police involved… I am not making this things up, that is how it is. In Ter Apel they had to go by bus to the bigger cities, but now they get their own bus. And you know why, cause they where intimidating girls that took the bus to school... so they get their own bus cause parents started driving their children to school themselves.. The bus used to be free for asylum seekers.

"The transport company Qbuzz has long been ringing about the fact that residents of the asylum center in Ter Apel, and in particular people from declared safe countries, cause nuisance on line 73. They would kick stennis and sometimes threaten drivers. Qbuzz therefore insisted on a special asylum bus.



Safe nationals
Harbers also spoke to others who are dealing with the inconvenience caused by safe nationals in Ter Apel in particular. With Harry Stuulen among others, spokesperson for the tradespeople with whom those safe nationals regularly commit shoplifting.

Compensation
Those middle class people want to be able to recover the damage from the thieves, just as they can do to "normal" Dutch people. Harbers said that they are working hard to make that possible. According to him, data about the thieves will have to be passed on faster to the organization that arranges the compensation. Stuulen responded "slightly positively" to those words. "We have been waiting a long time for compensation but I see that it is being worked on."

https://www.dvhn.nl/groningen/Staats...-24353236.html

Residents Buitenveldert want to move after the a 69 year old woman died after being raped by a status holder.
There has been great unrest in Buitenveldert since the assault and rape of 68-year-old Rinia Chitani, who died of her injuries earlier this week. The perpetrator turned out to be a status holder. The anger about this incident comes on top of the concerns that already existed in the neighborhood, after the municipality of Amsterdam decided that there would be seventy asylum seekers.
https://wnl.tv/2019/06/14/bewoners-b...-statushouder/

The woman who get raped, beaten and went in coma by an asylum seeker. Till her family decided after a few weeks to stop medicare cause little chance she would wake up.


A wellfare may discourage job search
In 2017, the explosive growth in the number of social security recipients was due to the large group of asylum seekers who came to the Netherlands during the migration crisis in 20o16. Once you are a status holder, you can apply for social assistance. This happened en masse: between June 2016 and June 2017, the number of social assistance recipients among non-Western immigrants increased by 16,000 to more than 239,000.

According to the CBS, many status holders are still integrating. Another problem is that many asylum seekers have wellfare, and there is virtually no financial incentive to look for work. In 2014, 90 percent of asylum seekers had benefits, a year later it had fallen to 84 percent. Anyone who is going to do unskilled work with social welfare hardly makes any financial gains.

https://www.elsevierweekblad.nl/econ...mt-dat-606345/

and so on... so the living money is only the first months/years than they get all wellfare dutch are entitled to. I guess you didn't look further than the money they get when they first arrive. So stop lying that is is not true, it is true. In the beginning they even got 10.000 euro to decorate the house, we call that in Holland "we give them a house with a Miele (washing machine)". Now some 'only' get a loan to decorate the house, will never be paid back when you are on welfare..
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And some infomation about Merkel, who loves to pollute the world with german cars and doesn't care about other EU countries.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/financieel/...ziliaans-vlees

"Amsterdam - Europe is in danger of being flooded with contaminated Brazilian beef and chicken meat. The European Union and Mercosur countries Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay are on the point of signing a trade agreement whereby the boundaries will open wide without conditions for South American meat with high risks to food safety and animal welfare.

Consumer organizations and the European meat-processing industry find it "incomprehensible" and "inappropriate" that the Mercosur deal does not set conditions for the quality of meat. "We do not have good experience with the import of Brazilian meat," says Sjoerd van der Wouw from consumer organization and food watchdog Foodwatch. "We know that Brazil imposes very different requirements on animal welfare and food safety and that they also sometimes violate the rules."

"Europe puts food safety at stake"

"That will of course be much more if no conditions are set," says Van der Wouw. "With this deal, Europe is putting its food safety at stake in exchange for exporting cars to South America."

Germany puts a lot of pressure on the rapid signing of the trade agreement. The Eastern neighbors see great opportunities for the car industry in the growth markets of the Mercosur countries."

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If it comes to pollution, Merkel is worse than Trump. She loves the lying and cheating german car industry. She even puts the health of European consumers aside.
She is a bitch. Maybe somebody must start milkshaking her, altough she is shaking herself already.

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They actually used government money to rent a fancy buses and departed... Good riddance..
i think actually they use this busses to bring all this 100ds of thousands protesters to prague against their president who is officially against immigration.

In the factories of his holding company Agrofert, however, he employs numerous guest workers from non-EU countries, including Vietnam, Ukraine and Mongolia. Without them, Agrofert, like many other companies in the country, would have to contend with extreme labour shortages. They are paid miserably, most of them have come to the Czech Republic under highly dubious circumstances.

This is what CZ REALLY thinks from those poeple. unfortunately paul seems not to realize what is going on around him.



can you imagine what it means when in a country of 10 million citizen 300.000 are on the streets?
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