One-third of U.S. Supports nuclear war on north korea, knowing it would kill one million. Hmmmm - GoFuckYourself.com

Bosa · 06-24-2019, 03:42 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/us-support-...n-dead-1445578

One-third of the United States population would support a preemptive attack on North Korea, even in a nuclear scenario, knowing it would kill one million innocent people, according to a recent survey.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, in collaboration with U.K.-based research firm YouGov, published a new study Monday detailing U.S. public opinion on military conflict with North Korea at a time when the pace of a historic peace process between the longtime rivals appeared to slow. Among the most "disturbing" results discovered was that "a large hawkish minority lurks within the U.S. public; over a third of respondents approve of a US preventive strike across the scenarios and appear insensitive to informational cues that most security experts would expect to reduce such levels of support."

Little changed when the U.S. first-strike was switched from conventional to nuclear as "33 percent preferred." In fact, "there is no significant change in the percentage who would prefer or approve of a U.S. nuclear strike when the number of estimated North Korean fatalities increases from 15,000 to 1.1 million, including 1 million civilians."

The researchers said these results actually demonstrated a previously-established pattern among the U.S. public, which "exhibits only limited aversion to nuclear weapons use and a shocking willingness to support the killing of enemy civilians."

The U.S. remains the only country in the world to have used nuclear weapons in combat with the August 1945 atomic bombings of the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing an estimated 250,000 people. In the decades since, nuclear weapons have only grown exponentially in might and North Korea—created alongside South Korea when World War II allies the Soviet Union and the U.S. split the once-Japanese-occupied peninsula shortly after the bombings—has managed to develop a nuclear arsenal of its own in spite of strict international sanctions.

Shuttering North Korea's nuclear program has been the goal of several successive U.S. administrations, but President Donald Trump hoped to break new ground by becoming the first in his position to meet a North Korean ruler with his debut summit alongside supreme leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore last year. The two agreed to move forward with a denuclearization-for-peace process, but even follow-up talks in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi in February failed to produce any deal.

Despite blaming one another's countries for apparent stalls in nuclear negotiations, Trump and Kim have managed to maintain an amicable relationship, demonstrated by their affinity for writing letters to another. Their occasional expressions of admiration for one another were a far cry from their initial impressions upon Trump's entrance to office in 2017, a year that saw the two exchange threats of nuclear destruction.

The pair may have considerably changed their tone, but many others remain skeptical as Washington has insisted on its unconditional "complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization" approach. Should Trump and Kim's relationship suffer a falling out, even more participants in Monday's study indicated they would back the president in taking action.

"Across all conditions, approval for the US strike is notably (although not always significantly, in a statistical sense) higher than preference, meaning a number of respondents discount their personal preferences in favor of the president's," the report found. "For example, while 'only' 33 percent of the US public prefer a US preventive nuclear strike that would kill 15,000 North Koreans, 50 percent approve."

Answers were also influenced by political beliefs. While most respondents overall opposed military action against North Korea, the "majority of Trump supporters prefer the US strike in every scenario, except when confidence in the effectiveness of the US conventional strike is 50 percent"—and even then it remained at 44 percent as opposed to a mere 8 percent for non-supporters. Separately, those who backed the death penalty were actually more eager to inflict a higher death toll among North Korean civilians.

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"When the number of expected North Korean fatalities increased from 15,000 to 1.1 million, preference for using nuclear weapons among respondents who favor the death penalty increased from 38 percent to 49 percent (although this is not a statistically significant change)," the report found. "One respondent who supported the death penalty and the US nuclear strike in this scenario explained, "It's our best chance of eliminating the North Koreans.' Another simply stated, 'to end North Korea.' By contrast, preference for the nuclear strike among those who oppose the death penalty fell from 26 percent to 7 percent across the same two scenarios."

The survey also exposed "how deeply misinformed Americans are about US offensive and defensive military capabilities," partially blaming misleading claims made by Trump. More than a third of respondents felt that the U.S. could take out North Korea's nuclear weapons in a single round of strikes and up to 74 percent thought the U.S. would be able to intercept a trio of incoming North Korea nuclear-tipped missiles—two assertions deeply disputed by experts.

The study concluded with a call "for a renewed effort at mass public nuclear education" and so scientists and social scientists "can communicate the facts and, therefore, influence the calculations of an informed public."

pimpmaster9000 · 06-24-2019, 03:51 PM

^^^bladewire

crockett · 06-24-2019, 04:01 PM

Guess who's supporters that 1/3rd are...

bronco67 · 06-24-2019, 04:51 PM

For the last fucking time....

North Korea is not a threat. There are so many variables to account for when making an intercontinental ballistic missile. Aside from getting the warhead to work, there's also the issue of it surviving exit and re-entry of the atmosphere. North Korea may as well be shooting a cast iron bathtub full of TNT from a giant sling shot.

brassmonkey · 06-24-2019, 05:26 PM

nuclear nothing... good nite

wehateporn · 06-24-2019, 05:32 PM

North Korea has more right to nuke the US than the other way around

SilentKnight · 06-24-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

North Korea has more right to nuke the US than the other way around

That's about the most absurd statement I've heard in a long while.

huey · 06-24-2019, 08:58 PM

Good thing Trump has been trying to communicate and reach out to them.

BaldBastard · 06-24-2019, 09:19 PM

What's another million when the American president threatened a country with 81 million of obliteration last week?

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Originally Posted by bronco67

North Korea is not a threat. There are so many variables to account for when making an intercontinental ballistic missile. Aside from getting the warhead to work, there's also the issue of it surviving exit and re-entry of the atmosphere. North Korea may as well be shooting a cast iron bathtub full of TNT from a giant sling shot.

Only the USA needs to make a surgical strike, North Korea on the other hand only have to hit the USA, irrelevant where really. And sadly a nuke going off in the atmosphere compared to a ground hit is likely to do much more damage, to a digital society like America.

If the USA was to hit NK with Nukes then, NK as the biggest stockers of biological and chemical weapons, you can sort of guess what happens next to millions of Americans.

pimpmaster9000 · 06-25-2019, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

That's about the most absurd statement I've heard in a long while.

oh really why is that US ass eater?

bronco67 · 06-25-2019, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

What's another million when the American president threatened a country with 81 million of obliteration last week?

Only the USA needs to make a surgical strike, North Korea on the other hand only have to hit the USA, irrelevant where really. And sadly a nuke going off in the atmosphere compared to a ground hit is likely to do much more damage, to a digital society like America.

If the USA was to hit NK with Nukes then, NK as the biggest stockers of biological and chemical weapons, you can sort of guess what happens next to millions of Americans.

Who cares about accuracy? It doesn't matter when your delivery vehicle can't survive the trip.

And while they're trying to accomplish the goal of getting a missile to survive re-entry (which seems insurmountable right now), they could create a major catastrophe if one blows up during testing.

directfiesta · 06-25-2019, 08:17 AM

USA are already the top killer state since WW2 ...

Just another million here, another million there ... no issue : they are superior ''race'' ( humm, reminds me of another '' race '' .. ) so it is all for freedom .....

06-24-2019, 03:42 PM	#1
Bosa Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Europe Posts: 4,325	One-third of U.S. Supports nuclear war on north korea, knowing it would kill one million. Hmmmm https://www.newsweek.com/us-support-...n-dead-1445578 One-third of the United States population would support a preemptive attack on North Korea, even in a nuclear scenario, knowing it would kill one million innocent people, according to a recent survey. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, in collaboration with U.K.-based research firm YouGov, published a new study Monday detailing U.S. public opinion on military conflict with North Korea at a time when the pace of a historic peace process between the longtime rivals appeared to slow. Among the most "disturbing" results discovered was that "a large hawkish minority lurks within the U.S. public; over a third of respondents approve of a US preventive strike across the scenarios and appear insensitive to informational cues that most security experts would expect to reduce such levels of support." Little changed when the U.S. first-strike was switched from conventional to nuclear as "33 percent preferred." In fact, "there is no significant change in the percentage who would prefer or approve of a U.S. nuclear strike when the number of estimated North Korean fatalities increases from 15,000 to 1.1 million, including 1 million civilians." The researchers said these results actually demonstrated a previously-established pattern among the U.S. public, which "exhibits only limited aversion to nuclear weapons use and a shocking willingness to support the killing of enemy civilians." The U.S. remains the only country in the world to have used nuclear weapons in combat with the August 1945 atomic bombings of the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing an estimated 250,000 people. In the decades since, nuclear weapons have only grown exponentially in might and North Korea—created alongside South Korea when World War II allies the Soviet Union and the U.S. split the once-Japanese-occupied peninsula shortly after the bombings—has managed to develop a nuclear arsenal of its own in spite of strict international sanctions. Shuttering North Korea's nuclear program has been the goal of several successive U.S. administrations, but President Donald Trump hoped to break new ground by becoming the first in his position to meet a North Korean ruler with his debut summit alongside supreme leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore last year. The two agreed to move forward with a denuclearization-for-peace process, but even follow-up talks in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi in February failed to produce any deal. Despite blaming one another's countries for apparent stalls in nuclear negotiations, Trump and Kim have managed to maintain an amicable relationship, demonstrated by their affinity for writing letters to another. Their occasional expressions of admiration for one another were a far cry from their initial impressions upon Trump's entrance to office in 2017, a year that saw the two exchange threats of nuclear destruction. The pair may have considerably changed their tone, but many others remain skeptical as Washington has insisted on its unconditional "complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization" approach. Should Trump and Kim's relationship suffer a falling out, even more participants in Monday's study indicated they would back the president in taking action. "Across all conditions, approval for the US strike is notably (although not always significantly, in a statistical sense) higher than preference, meaning a number of respondents discount their personal preferences in favor of the president's," the report found. "For example, while 'only' 33 percent of the US public prefer a US preventive nuclear strike that would kill 15,000 North Koreans, 50 percent approve." Answers were also influenced by political beliefs. While most respondents overall opposed military action against North Korea, the "majority of Trump supporters prefer the US strike in every scenario, except when confidence in the effectiveness of the US conventional strike is 50 percent"—and even then it remained at 44 percent as opposed to a mere 8 percent for non-supporters. Separately, those who backed the death penalty were actually more eager to inflict a higher death toll among North Korean civilians. RELATED STORIES China's Xi to Make First Trip to North Korea As They Struggle in U.S. Talks World War III: Next U.S. Fight May Be in One of These Five Countries Donald Trump's North Korea Strategy Is Not Working With Iran "When the number of expected North Korean fatalities increased from 15,000 to 1.1 million, preference for using nuclear weapons among respondents who favor the death penalty increased from 38 percent to 49 percent (although this is not a statistically significant change)," the report found. "One respondent who supported the death penalty and the US nuclear strike in this scenario explained, "It's our best chance of eliminating the North Koreans.' Another simply stated, 'to end North Korea.' By contrast, preference for the nuclear strike among those who oppose the death penalty fell from 26 percent to 7 percent across the same two scenarios." The survey also exposed "how deeply misinformed Americans are about US offensive and defensive military capabilities," partially blaming misleading claims made by Trump. More than a third of respondents felt that the U.S. could take out North Korea's nuclear weapons in a single round of strikes and up to 74 percent thought the U.S. would be able to intercept a trio of incoming North Korea nuclear-tipped missiles—two assertions deeply disputed by experts. The study concluded with a call "for a renewed effort at mass public nuclear education" and so scientists and social scientists "can communicate the facts and, therefore, influence the calculations of an informed public."

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	For the last fucking time.... North Korea is not a threat. There are so many variables to account for when making an intercontinental ballistic missile. Aside from getting the warhead to work, there's also the issue of it surviving exit and re-entry of the atmosphere. North Korea may as well be shooting a cast iron bathtub full of TNT from a giant sling shot. __________________

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directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Back to Montréal, ALIVE ! Posts: 29,012	USA are already the top killer state since WW2 ... Just another million here, another million there ... no issue : they are superior ''race'' ( humm, reminds me of another '' race '' .. ) so it is all for freedom .....