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03-19-2011, 01:32 PM | #1 |
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Finding girls for nude photography
So you have a nice camera?
You've even gotten out there and taken some real good pics with it. You're friends have all seen your work by now and you have heard lot's of positive comments. So it's official: You?re a photographer. Being a photographer is something that no matter how good you are there just seems to always be something you can learn. Some other area, some other subject, something you haven't photographed yet. I'm a photographer too. But like everyone else I am far from perfect and I still find myself constantly learning. I am always signing up for classes, or researching the internet, or even just going out to get some pictures of something I have never photographed before. What I specialize in is adult entertainment. Yea, I know, some of you are disgusted by that and some might think it's pretty cool. I get both reactions. Some photographers out there don't think the adult industry even has "real" photographers in it. However in my area of San Luis Obispo County in the state of California it does pay my bills. As a matter of fact I own the largest studio in our area. The ultra cool wedding photographers are losing their studios because they can't pay rent and I am still plugging along. Anyway we're not a bad bunch in the adult world but I am faced with something every day that other people in my industry as well as other photographers from all walks of life ask. How do you get the girls willing to get photographed naked? If I lived in L.A. it would be simple but expensive. There are thousands of girls in big cities ready, willing, and able to get photographed in their birthday suits. These are professional models and actresses. But I live in a town with only about 25,000 people. My town is small and we consider it to be the next Napa Valley. Wine people tend to look down at adult modeling and instantly think of porn. A girl modeling in a bikini is considered porn by some of the snobs that live in my area. So??..small town girls, always worried about friends and family finding out. In a small community like mine this is very possible and even likely. Before we get started I do have to remind you that there are many laws concerning adult photography. This is a whole other article in itself but make sure you get the details about 2257 compliance issues like ID's (models HAVE to be over 18) and model releases. This can save you a world of headache down the road. Let's get on with it. To start with I have lived in the small town of Paso Robles for many years. Everybody knows me which in my case is a good thing. Your reputation will matter a lot to the girls you will be trying to photograph. In many cases the girls have never done nude modeling before or for that matter modeling of any kind. Before you hit the street with total strangers you might try your friends. Friends and girlfriends are an excellent tryout. However most of these friends that are willing to help you out won't sign a release to go on the internet, magazine, or any other publication. It is an excellent tune-up before a stranger comes in which you must pay for. Usually these friends of yours will only want a nice print. Something larger like an 8 1/2 x 11 would make them very happy. Tune up accomplished and it's on to the real thing. Hit the street runnin'. I got some of my first models from businesses where the girls knew me. It started with bartenders and customers from a couple of places I would hang out and have a beer with my buddies. Next were a couple of girls from a local gas station that I used to fill up at. After that the local pizza delivery girl and a waitress from my favorite Mexican food joint were posing for me. I have found over the years that good looking girls tend to have good looking friends. Treat these girls with the utmost respect and make them feel very safe and very beautiful. Their friends will soon be calling you. Pay them as promised up front and ALWAYS honor their limits or "lines" as it's called in the business. Pay in my area from me is $50 an hour for bikini and lingerie . I give $100 an hour for nude and of course this is one of the proverbial carrots that I dangle in front of the model as an incentive to shoot nude. It's simple; take off your bikini and your pay doubles. I printed out some 4 x 6 cards with a couple sexy non-nude pictures on it. On this card I had my e-mail address, name and a cell phone number. A little brief statement about modeling and that was it, nothing too involved. These were used more for what I refer to as cold calling. Cold calling is the most risky, pain in the butt, and even dangerous way to find models. Approaching a stranger on the street and out of the clear blue sky ask if she would like to work for you. This will absolutely give you the highest percentage of rejections. I have a batch of cards printed out especially for this with all the same info but with the name of Jeff instead of my name Gary Lee on them. When a stranger calls up saying his wife was given this card by Jeff I can pass it off as "some college kid we hired to try to find models". I would consider it the ultimate compliment if someone thought that my wife or girlfriend was so beautiful that she could be a model as long as the person wasn't rude but you will always run across that one guy that it offends. How about where you're at right now? The internet is perfect for some photographers especially if you?re a little shy. There are plenty of girls on the World Wide Web ready to make some money. Be cautious!!! There can be some real weirdo's out there in computer land. I have had criminals with boyfriends who simply were trying to find my place to be their next burglary. How about girls so hopped up on drugs that they want to work RIGHT NOW because they gotta have the money, and no-show's? My highest percentage of no-show flakes comes from the internet. First thing to remember about cyberspace it is such a vast area. You don't need to interview models from New York when your studio is in California. One site that get's them rounded up from your area is craigslist.com. This site let's you put your search into just your area. I simply go to United States, California cities, and then San Luis Obispo County. Voila! I'm there! Now you can click on the adult section and place your ad to get your phone ringing. Remember these girls are one's you definitely need to meet in public. You might even be scared in public with a few of these girls. My ratio runs about 10 calls and about 3 actually show up. Then out of those 3 only 2 I'm willing to hire with only 1 actually showing up for her appointment for work. 10% is not very good odds but it is easy I will say that. Just an occasional real weird lunch that's all. Another site full of flakes but runs a 10% finding rate is modelmahem.com. It also lets you search by specific area. When you put up your info to join remember to list that you shoot nudes. I list that and I still get girls calling me for work and then telling me that they don't shoot nudes. Some girls just don't read and always remember to go over about shooting nudes on the phone or in your e-mails. Never assume the model has read the ad you put up. That way you don't have a girl coming all the way to your town for initial interview and then she gets offended when asked about nude work. |
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part 2
Strippers are also a good source of model material.
Here you have a bunch of girls that are very "at home" with being naked in front of men. There are 2 types of strippers, in house and out call. In house means they work at a nudie bar. In my area we only have 1 of those. These girls have it in their favor if they do full on porn and model all they can. In their world they are just a stripper who basically rubs up against men all day and gives half their money to the house. But if they are a known model or porn star then the house hires them to come to their location, pays their travel and lodging, and after all that they still don't have to split their money with the house. As you can see they not only make money from you but they keep making more through their entire career. Out call strippers are in it for the quick buck. They might not even be a stripper next week. Out call strippers can be found in local newspapers, yellow pages, or you might get a phone number from 1 of your buddies that just had a bachelor party. What I have done with these girls is just call them to come to a buddy's house for their show. You will really be surprised at how many of these girls show up with no music. No music means that this girl is nothing more than a hooker. Hooker or stripper my routine is the same. If they are idiots or ugly we watch the show and laugh about it while eating pizza and drinking a beer. However if they are hot we start on our recruiting campaign. We tell the girl what we do for a living. Three quarters of the time they have heard of my local company called cuntrybabes.com and we get on the same page real fast. I give her one of my cards and tell her that she makes great money stripping on Friday and Saturday nights but how much did she make on Tuesday afternoon? I know that a stripper can make more than $100 an hour stripping between her wages and her tips. But on Tuesday afternoon when she has no gigs she can make a couple hundred bucks for letting me take pictures of her for a couple hours. After that I really appeal to her greed. I have several 8 1/2 x 11 pics of other strippers in the area that I show her. They were pictures I took of these other strippers that I Photoshopped on the name of their agency with the contact phone number. These strippers can now take my work and autograph it for the customer. The customer throws down a $20 bill for the autographed pic so the girl gets $20 extra along with an advertisement hanging in the customer's garage by his work bench or keg refrigerator for years to come. After the girl shows her pic to the agency I usually get a call from that business to photograph the rest of the girls for promo pics. Even down the road the original stripper that started the domino effect returns because she is tired of the same old pic and wants to shoot again. Enough about strippers, their easy, let?s get on to finding amateur girls to work for you. Some photographers swear by professional model sites. They are as easy as going on the internet and using Google to find a company in your area. I live in a rinky dink town so this is just not possible. Other photographers usually call me to help in this area of which I always will if I think their legit. If they can prove to me they are the real deal and not just a GWC (guy with camera) I will take down their phone number and give it to any girls that they tell me they are interested in. I will not give their numbers to any girls if I think that they are just a GWC. You can check out one of these modeling sites on the internet at worldmodeling.com. I couldn't tell you if they are any good since I have never used them but they seem to be one of the most popular ones in the adult industry and I haven't heard anybody badmouth them. So now the phone rings and you have a bite. If it's someone I know I just make an appointment for them to drop by the studio and I show them around. I go over things like pay, comfort zones, what we expect from them and find out what they expect from us. I introduce them to the other fellow employees and always refer to everyone at work as our family. I try to make them feel right at home and how we would love to have them in our family. Now if the phone call comes from somebody I have no idea who it is I ALWAYS like to meet them somewhere public first. Lunch is good for me and that way we can go over all the details there. Weirdo's are out there and they run on both sides of this fence. Not only should the girl be cautious when meeting a stranger but I have met my share of weirdo models as well. If I deem a girl as to weird to shoot or even just plain to ugly (you would be surprised at how many of those calls you will get) I can simply tell her I'll call her when I have work for her. If she is acceptable then if she wants I run her right down to the studio for the grand tour. So now we have a girl in our studio, kind of the whole idea, right? First tip: start out with something simple and sexy. Don't hand her a giant dildo on her first day and expect her to have an orgasm on your shoot. Start her out slow. I like to start the girl in a bikini the first day out. I only pay $50 an hour for these bikini pics. Make her feel beautiful and sexy. Above all make her feel safe. Show her work that you have done before and if I sense beforehand that I will be dealing with a nervous Nellie I have one of the girls that do Photoshop work or a make-up artist hang around and help me with posing the model and the lights. Always remember that no matter who you are, I am a photographer that has done this with hundreds of girls (almost thousands), this might very well be the FIRST time your model has done this. Then you always have the girl that has done this before but had a bad experience. Maybe her last photographer was a weirdo or a GWC. A GWC is a "guy with camera" in other words a guy buys a new Canon from Costco then starts trolling the internet looking for girls so he can see them naked. Sounds silly but they're out there, my area has them and yours will too. Well I hope I gave you some ideas for getting your own girls to model for you. I'd love to take a look at anyone's work so drop me a pic to [email protected]. Good luck and I hope someday we all get rich from doing what we love, and I love taking pictures of naked girls. |
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Where are you going to sell the photos?
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Yeah Craigslist is out nowadays. You will get flag real fast if you mention anything remotely like nude, adult, or anything that raises a flag. They don't want to be shut down like Backpage
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Very good info.
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Don't be afraid to politely ask a girl if she is interested. Be respectful.
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very interesting
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Wow, that's amazing!
Thank you for sharing I was always wondering how you photographers manage to survive without getting hit from bf/husband of models. But now I understand. Thank you again for the amazing article!
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I think girls are vital and it is part of know how. Well, we are whole community and members of community searching girls. Everybody using different way. One boy can go to the Shopping Mall and giving them business cards and motivate them to shoot porn. I am using internet. Girls brings friends. And many more. There is no one way to get models. We have lots of new models. Best is to make community of the photographers, agents and models. But depends where you are. Probably not everywhere possible.
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I had to read both OP topics twice and even took a few notes. I had no idea this platform has this kind of potential.
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Definitely a great information source.
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