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maxroyale808 · 09-08-2011, 11:32 AM

Awesome article. Traffic is really an artform.

-max

MiaLelani_SocalCamCash · 09-29-2011, 12:40 PM

Thanks for the 101 on niches & traffic trades!

sspikey · 11-02-2011, 04:01 PM

Having read this thread. Where would you go next if you were a complete newbie?

Have a few friends who would like to learn but are drawing blanks as to how to get started and drive the base traffic in (psst: thats me trying to act like I am not a TOTAL newb)

2ndxachrm · 12-11-2011, 11:42 PM

Thanks, save me a lot of hassle right now.

up1 · 01-09-2012, 01:51 PM

Thanks, saved me a lot of time as a noob. Well written !

SensualSexTube · 01-15-2012, 09:01 PM

Thanks for the information. Well written and easy to read for a newbie

Bat_Man · 04-22-2012, 04:39 AM

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GFELIFE · 06-09-2012, 03:00 PM

gfe life is da best
There are some basic rules to follow when it comes to traffic trades. First and foremost... if you don't have traffic or have very little traffic then you should not waste our time signing up for trades without contacting the webmaster. If you don't have traffic or have very little traffic and know a couple of webmasters you should contact them and ask them to force a little traffic to you... if you have a few friends that can do that then you will have a little traffic to build on.

If you don't know anyone then you should probably spend a little money and buy some feeder traffic. I don't recommend buying general feeder from any broker except for Traffic Out that has been sent from a clicked link with your site name or term as the link anchor. I say this from experience and not prejudice. I have found that feeder traffic from skim traffic brokers typically doesn't provide you a good value and is a waste of money unless you buy from particular sites who have good traffic and match your sites niche. Your site prod (how many times each visitor clicks on your galleries) will be low and even worse... the prod of your traffic on a trades site will be low as well. If you really want to BUILD your site... you need good traffic to do it and not garbage unless you are building a Circle Jerk site with very little clicks going to galleries. The bottom line is this: don't sign up for trades if you have no traffic... you are wasting your time.

Once you have some traffic to start trading: when you sign up for a trade... make sure that you can send traffic to that trade... either understand how to force traffic using the trade script or add links to your site in places where they will be clicked to ensure that you will be sending traffic to that trade. It makes no sense whatsoever to sign up for a trade without sending any traffic to get the trade started. If you sign up for a trade and don't send traffic... your site will be deleted... it's just the way it works.

If you have a little traffic to start trading but you are having problems getting your script to send traffic to your new trade... you have a couple of options... first, you can add links (toplist links which are counted by your trade script) in places on your site that will generate clicks and alternatively, you could contact the webmaster to see if they could start a mutual force to help get the trade started. DON'T LIE about how much traffic you can send. You will not be able to grow a 100k site overnight without experience... so don't waste time trying to scam people into sending you alot of traffic. The TGP business is a large community... but they are a community and alot of webmasters know each other... if you scam people you will get blacklisted... it's as simple as that.

NICHE is important. If you don't know what a niche is, it refers to a category of content that is specific... for example, "Softcore Nudes" is a niche. Typically, this niche is content like what you would find at Met Art, Femjoy and other sites. It is very important that you learn to differentiate niches... because it is common for new webmasters to get it confused. I have had quite a few new webmasters tell me that they ran a "Babes" site and it had a mix of teens and nude art (ie. art nude). "Babes", as a niche, is something totally different. "Babes" as a niche usually means glamour type content that you would find on Playboy or Penthouse. Niche is important because it defines what you are selling... and the secret to selling memberships is to target your traffic so that they see what they want to see when they visit your site.

If you are running a site with every gallery you can find from lots of different sponsors you are running a "General" niche site and you should only trade with other sites who are doing the same thing... occasionally, you can trade with niche sites and get good results... but typically, your traffic on the niche site will not produce good results because the surfers are usually looking for something specific. You are much better off starting a site with sponsors and galleries that match a specific niche... and then trading with sites that match that niche. This includes using pictures and movies... if you have a site that mixes movies and picture galleries... you should only trade with sites that mix picture and movie galleries... I recommend that if you want to really build good targeted traffic you should not mix movies and picture galleries in the same site. Many webmaster might differ on that opinion... however, it is my opinion based on my experience. Some surfers prefer pictures over movies and some surfers only want movies... it just makes sense to me that you have a site that matches what your surfers want. Remember, targeting your traffic is what makes you sales and is imperative for getting good prod on your site and your trades sites. This is the key to building traffic... if you have good quality traffic and good prod on your trades sites they will send you back more traffic.... this is how the scripts work.

Lastly, if you are starting a new site... don't sign up for alot of new trades all at once unless you have the traffic to support them. You won't be able to get the trades started anyway and will probably get deleted.

If you have specific questions about starting new sites, post your question here and I will answer it the best I can... I am sure that others will post their advice as well.

NOTE: Remember this point... not everyone that posts advice on these forums has a clue about what they are talking about. Many people have been in the business for a long time but have never had a site over 5-10k/day because they just never understood the principles of how to trade traffic. Some people just like to post advice to make themselves look smart when they really don't know what they are talking about. This is a sad fact about the internet... you have to learn how to distinguish good advice from bad.

About the Author: Shawn McAllister (nation-x) got started as an adult webmaster in early 2002. Over the last 8 years he has built a large traffic network as well as developed and sold scripts for adult webmasters such as TGP Daemon, Gallery Daemon, Link Daemon and more. For the last 5 years he has worked with AdultReviews.com as a traffic manager and developer. His most recent achievement has been to develop LifestyleAmateurs.com from concept to it's current state as an up and coming giant in the Amateur Paysite market.[/QUOTE]

GFELIFE · 06-09-2012, 03:03 PM

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prozac88 · 10-01-2012, 06:14 AM

Very informative indeed!!

nation-x · 10-01-2012, 06:59 AM

It appears that this thread is being bumped. Just thought I should point out that I am no longer in adult and this information is old.

whtdrgn · 03-29-2013, 07:18 PM

Bookmarked

TrafficRush · 05-24-2013, 01:41 AM

good clicked popunder feeder traffic here: http://www.vedoads.com/buy-popunders

Throckmorton · 06-29-2013, 11:15 AM

Useful stuff! Thanks

Stiltzkin · 08-14-2013, 01:38 PM

Question: is it okay for me to just start linking to other sites without telling them and not expecting a linkback in return? The logic is that the sites I link to will hopefully see that I'm sending a tiny bit of traffic to their site and may feel inclined to give me a linkback once I've sent a decent amount of traffic to their site. I run a general niche site.

j3rkules · 08-14-2013, 03:36 PM

Nice read!

sexycristina18 · 08-27-2013, 02:48 AM

thank you very much, but can someone please send me some tgp trading sites? And i need to get the trade script as i saw on a lot of tube sites the Top List , I want to add to my site to a top list but i don't know the html code , if someone could help me i would be thankfull

contact me on skype : wanted9116
thank you

MrTrollkien · 10-05-2014, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiltzkin

Question: is it okay for me to just start linking to other sites without telling them and not expecting a linkback in return? The logic is that the sites I link to will hopefully see that I'm sending a tiny bit of traffic to their site and may feel inclined to give me a linkback once I've sent a decent amount of traffic to their site. I run a general niche site.

If you did not sing up through trade traffic script, most like the webmaster will not link back to your site, but it really depends on a few cases.

Better is to contact the webmaster via contact form, or social media or any form of the contact should be good. Nowadays, we have a twitter, facebook, skype etc. so it is a lot easier to contact the owner than in the past.

MrTrollkien · 10-05-2014, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexycristina18

thank you very much, but can someone please send me some tgp trading sites? And i need to get the trade script as i saw on a lot of tube sites the Top List , I want to add to my site to a top list but i don't know the html code , if someone could help me i would be thankfull

contact me on skype : wanted9116
thank you

Check this section https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31

I do not know much how trade traffic works because I prefer using simply link exchange but if you ask people there, I am sure they will answer your questions accurately.

MrTrollkien · 10-05-2014, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x

It appears that this thread is being bumped. Just thought I should point out that I am no longer in adult and this information is old.

Can I know why?

I assume you have moved to mainstream.

I can see in the the first post that you have some quite long and rich past (you have been involved in many projects), so it surprise me a bit.

Erorina · 11-27-2014, 03:32 PM

nice article

roxanneraid · 12-10-2014, 04:34 PM

Good job OP, great article

hotbarbie · 12-10-2014, 05:36 PM

Great post. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

valerynoir · 12-12-2014, 01:12 AM

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zelca4ever · 12-12-2014, 01:12 AM

Thanks a lot man for all this killer post

horikh · 12-12-2014, 01:12 AM

Nice insight, thanks for sharing!

mihaitza · 12-12-2014, 01:12 AM

This is so true. Learned it the hard way.

cinnemon · 12-12-2014, 02:38 AM

thanks for sharing, good sir

aditeo · 12-12-2014, 02:38 AM

Thanks for super information!

newjack509 · 12-16-2014, 02:59 PM

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celandina · 06-15-2020, 08:05 AM

This may have been OK 10 years ago... Even the OP stated its old news, so why still bumping old useless thread ? Are we really so desperate ?

ivakarlovag · 12-26-2022, 03:54 AM

what are trade scripts that are still working good today?

09-29-2011, 12:40 PM	#52
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06-09-2012, 03:00 PM	#59
GFELIFE Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 131	gfe life is da best There are some basic rules to follow when it comes to traffic trades. First and foremost... if you don't have traffic or have very little traffic then you should not waste our time signing up for trades without contacting the webmaster. If you don't have traffic or have very little traffic and know a couple of webmasters you should contact them and ask them to force a little traffic to you... if you have a few friends that can do that then you will have a little traffic to build on. If you don't know anyone then you should probably spend a little money and buy some feeder traffic. I don't recommend buying general feeder from any broker except for Traffic Out that has been sent from a clicked link with your site name or term as the link anchor. I say this from experience and not prejudice. I have found that feeder traffic from skim traffic brokers typically doesn't provide you a good value and is a waste of money unless you buy from particular sites who have good traffic and match your sites niche. Your site prod (how many times each visitor clicks on your galleries) will be low and even worse... the prod of your traffic on a trades site will be low as well. If you really want to BUILD your site... you need good traffic to do it and not garbage unless you are building a Circle Jerk site with very little clicks going to galleries. The bottom line is this: don't sign up for trades if you have no traffic... you are wasting your time. Once you have some traffic to start trading: when you sign up for a trade... make sure that you can send traffic to that trade... either understand how to force traffic using the trade script or add links to your site in places where they will be clicked to ensure that you will be sending traffic to that trade. It makes no sense whatsoever to sign up for a trade without sending any traffic to get the trade started. If you sign up for a trade and don't send traffic... your site will be deleted... it's just the way it works. If you have a little traffic to start trading but you are having problems getting your script to send traffic to your new trade... you have a couple of options... first, you can add links (toplist links which are counted by your trade script) in places on your site that will generate clicks and alternatively, you could contact the webmaster to see if they could start a mutual force to help get the trade started. DON'T LIE about how much traffic you can send. You will not be able to grow a 100k site overnight without experience... so don't waste time trying to scam people into sending you alot of traffic. The TGP business is a large community... but they are a community and alot of webmasters know each other... if you scam people you will get blacklisted... it's as simple as that. NICHE is important. If you don't know what a niche is, it refers to a category of content that is specific... for example, "Softcore Nudes" is a niche. Typically, this niche is content like what you would find at Met Art, Femjoy and other sites. It is very important that you learn to differentiate niches... because it is common for new webmasters to get it confused. I have had quite a few new webmasters tell me that they ran a "Babes" site and it had a mix of teens and nude art (ie. art nude). "Babes", as a niche, is something totally different. "Babes" as a niche usually means glamour type content that you would find on Playboy or Penthouse. Niche is important because it defines what you are selling... and the secret to selling memberships is to target your traffic so that they see what they want to see when they visit your site. If you are running a site with every gallery you can find from lots of different sponsors you are running a "General" niche site and you should only trade with other sites who are doing the same thing... occasionally, you can trade with niche sites and get good results... but typically, your traffic on the niche site will not produce good results because the surfers are usually looking for something specific. You are much better off starting a site with sponsors and galleries that match a specific niche... and then trading with sites that match that niche. This includes using pictures and movies... if you have a site that mixes movies and picture galleries... you should only trade with sites that mix picture and movie galleries... I recommend that if you want to really build good targeted traffic you should not mix movies and picture galleries in the same site. Many webmaster might differ on that opinion... however, it is my opinion based on my experience. Some surfers prefer pictures over movies and some surfers only want movies... it just makes sense to me that you have a site that matches what your surfers want. Remember, targeting your traffic is what makes you sales and is imperative for getting good prod on your site and your trades sites. This is the key to building traffic... if you have good quality traffic and good prod on your trades sites they will send you back more traffic.... this is how the scripts work. Lastly, if you are starting a new site... don't sign up for alot of new trades all at once unless you have the traffic to support them. You won't be able to get the trades started anyway and will probably get deleted. If you have specific questions about starting new sites, post your question here and I will answer it the best I can... I am sure that others will post their advice as well. NOTE: Remember this point... not everyone that posts advice on these forums has a clue about what they are talking about. Many people have been in the business for a long time but have never had a site over 5-10k/day because they just never understood the principles of how to trade traffic. Some people just like to post advice to make themselves look smart when they really don't know what they are talking about. This is a sad fact about the internet... you have to learn how to distinguish good advice from bad. About the Author: Shawn McAllister (nation-x) got started as an adult webmaster in early 2002. Over the last 8 years he has built a large traffic network as well as developed and sold scripts for adult webmasters such as TGP Daemon, Gallery Daemon, Link Daemon and more. For the last 5 years he has worked with AdultReviews.com as a traffic manager and developer. His most recent achievement has been to develop LifestyleAmateurs.com from concept to it's current state as an up and coming giant in the Amateur Paysite market.[/QUOTE] __________________ The Full Girlfriend Experience! <--- Take a look at our site!

09-08-2011, 11:32 AM	#51
maxroyale808 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 27	Awesome article. Traffic is really an artform. -max

11-02-2011, 04:01 PM	#53
sspikey Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6	Having read this thread. Where would you go next if you were a complete newbie? Have a few friends who would like to learn but are drawing blanks as to how to get started and drive the base traffic in (psst: thats me trying to act like I am not a TOTAL newb)

01-09-2012, 01:51 PM	#55
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04-22-2012, 04:39 AM	#57
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12-10-2014, 05:36 PM	#74
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12-12-2014, 01:12 AM	#78
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