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Relentless 08-25-2013 08:57 PM

Breaking Bad: Confessions
 
Brilliant.

Give Aaron Paul another Emmy

Also Loved Walt's DVD

JFK 08-25-2013 09:01 PM

thanks for no spoilers ;)

AllAboutCams 08-25-2013 09:18 PM

Great episode

L-Pink 08-25-2013 09:33 PM

I always liked "Malcom in the Middle"

Sarah_Jayne 08-25-2013 10:45 PM

God damn, what an episode.

kane 08-25-2013 11:37 PM

Wow!

Fantastic stuff all around. Dean Norris and Aaron Paul were both brilliant. I get the feeling that the roller coaster has just about hit the top of the hill and we are in for one hell of a ride.

dyna mo 08-26-2013 03:51 AM

wow, i've been waiting for an epic jesse scene and there's 2! when he calls walt out in the desert was spot on i thought, the dialogue made a lot of sense to me how he finally did that. and the scene with saul was just as well-done.

spoiler alert"::::::::::KJJ)OUPGIFRRRRRRRRR(*FOO*




. how did he finally figure out the ricin cigg thing while standing on the curb? why would his reaction be to torch the house?

i'll be watching it again though.

Relentless 08-26-2013 04:44 AM

***Spoiler Alert*****




Huel stole his dope by pick-pocketing him. Not sure if you have ever had anything stolen, but its a very intense emotional moment when you notice what happened. Watch Jessie's face during the scene as he figures it out. I've watched it 3 times now. You can practically hear him thinking out loud.

His mind starts racing, he wonders if he lost the dope, or who could have stolen if. Then he retraces his steps in his mind: "Was it Huel, when we bumped up together in the doorway on the way out of Saul's office, maybe another moment along the way. The feeling is unsettling, like that time I knew I had the ricin cigarette, but it suddenly wasn't there anymore. Hey, Huel was around then too...FUCK he must have stolen the cigarettes the same way, but if he stole the cigarettes... How did Brock get poisoned? Huel wouldn't... Well, he doesn't do anything without orders from Saul... Which all comes from mr. White. That asshole has been playing Saul, Huel, me, everybody the whole time... Now he wants me gone... Holy shit HE must have poisoned Brock!!! I'm gonna kill that mutherfucker and send his wife and kids to hell along with him!"


Watch his face, and hand him another Emmy.

bronco67 08-26-2013 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773364)




. how did he finally figure out the ricin cigg thing while standing on the curb? why would his reaction be to torch the house?

i'll be watching it again though.

I thought that was a little weird too. The doctors told Jesse that Brock got sick from that Lilly of the Valley plant, and not ricin.

Also, in Walt's video he said he gave Hank $177,000 for his medical bills. If Hank was the ring leader of the operation and coercing Walt into cooking, then why would he need to borrow money from his subordinate?

Juicy D. Links 08-26-2013 06:38 AM

"I hot a hoover vaccuum that needs a cleaning " lolollo

dyna mo 08-26-2013 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19773385)
***Spoiler Alert*****




Huel stole his dope by pick-pocketing him. Not sure if you have ever had anything stolen, but its a very intense emotional moment when you notice what happened. Watch Jessie's face during the scene as he figures it out. I've watched it 3 times now. You can practically hear him thinking out loud.

His mind starts racing, he wonders if he lost the dope, or who could have stolen if. Then he retraces his steps in his mind: "Was it Huel, when we bumped up together in the doorway on the way out of Saul's office, maybe another moment along the way. The feeling is unsettling, like that time I knew I had the ricin cigarette, but it suddenly wasn't there anymore. Hey, Huel was around then too...FUCK he must have stolen the cigarettes the same way, but if he stole the cigarettes... How did Brock get poisoned? Huel wouldn't... Well, he doesn't do anything without orders from Saul... Which all comes from mr. White. That asshole has been playing Saul, Huel, me, everybody the whole time... Now he wants me gone... Holy shit HE must have poisoned Brock!!! I'm gonna kill that mutherfucker and send his wife and kids to hell along with him!"


Watch his face, and hand him another Emmy.

it was certainly good acting, and about time for some serious jesse shit no doubt imo, i felt like his character has been flailing about and it was very good to see that solidify into something real.

i can see his sorting that out as a brain dump, even if it was a bit of a logic stretch as bronco67 pointed out, obviously jesse won't be teaming up with shrader and ww has a 2 front war to wage, i think the only partnership formed now is ww/skyler and i am not even certain skyler is 100% in.

the mind fuck ww is playing with and on walt jr is fucking pathetic, but certainly accurate as many people in life use their children as pawns like that.

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19773464)
I thought that was a little weird too. The doctors told Jesse that Brock got sick from that Lilly of the Valley plant, and not ricin.

Also, in Walt's video he said he gave Hank $177,000 for his medical bills. If Hank was the ring leader of the operation and coercing Walt into cooking, then why would he need to borrow money from his subordinate?

i noticed that too, sometimes (rarely) the writing seems to me to miss easy dialogue, they could have made it out like shrader got the $177K from ww some other way, obviously against ww's will.

dyna mo 08-26-2013 06:52 AM

i'm also confused about the opening scene, the audio is muffed for some reason on this so it's difficult to make out what meth damon is saying on the phone and if it's forshadowing, because he's then in the diner chatting with the nazi dudes and then off to what, kidnapp ww to cook with a trailer full of chemicals? what do yuu think was up with this scene?

bronco67 08-26-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773504)
i'm also confused about the opening scene, the audio is muffed for some reason on this so it's difficult to make out what meth damon is saying on the phone and if it's forshadowing, because he's then in the diner chatting with the nazi dudes and then off to what, kidnapp ww to cook with a trailer full of chemicals? what do yuu think was up with this scene?

I think the whole point of that scene was to just get us up to speed with those guys. They're most likely going to be some kind of antagonist during the last few episodes, and we really haven't spent much time with them. The most telling thing about them -- and this why I love the writing on Breaking Bad -- was the part when the guy wiped the blood from his boot, like it's just a normal everyday thing. You feel like you know how bad those guys are, even though the conversation was innocuous.

That opening scene was very Tarantino.

dyna mo 08-26-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19773549)
I think the whole point of that scene was to just get us up to speed with those guys. They're most likely going to be some kind of antagonist during the last few episodes, and we really haven't spent much time with them. The most telling thing about them -- and this why I love the writing on Breaking Bad -- was the part when the guy wiped the blood from his boot, like it's just a normal everyday thing. You feel like you know how bad those guys are, even though the conversation was innocuous.

That opening scene was very Tarantino.

you know, there's a lot of tarantino/pulp fiction sorta things going on it seems.

say what again motherfucker, comes to mind when jesse flips out on saul, hell mr white and mr. pink-man, lolz. some other things too i think.

i went back and caught some more of the audio from the opening scene, todd says things changed violently, no biggie. hrmmmmmmmm...

maybe this is what that m60 is for, but what's odd about that gun is that's a team gun, ww can't strap that gun on and go on a spree, i believe you have to tripod that weapon and have a multi-man team work it, which would mean ww teams up, but at this point it seems the writers want us to think every man for himself.

on another note, i flipped out over that purple rug in the shrader house (when marie tell hank she took the $177k), hahahaha, with that zebra sttriped chair, over-the-top! i know colors are hugely important in the show and they use purple with marie often, i just cracked up though when i saw that! :1orglaugh

Relentless 08-26-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773497)
it was certainly good acting, and about time for some serious jesse shit no doubt imo, i felt like his character has been flailing about and it was very good to see that solidify into something real. i can see his sorting that out as a brain dump, even if it was a bit of a logic stretch as bronco67 pointed out

Yeah, it's a weird spot for the writers. It's the kind of thing that Jessie would figure out but the viewers would not as easily... so they could have added a bit more context. If I were writing the show, when Saul walks out of the room and tells Jessie to wait there and not light up again, I'd have shown an additional scene where Saul tells Huel in privacy to be sure he lifts the dope off Jessie... the same way he lifted the cigarettes, so Jessie can get a fresh start. That may have been a bit too heavy handed for their writers to go with, but it would have made the facts easiest to digest for casual viewers.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773497)
obviously jesse won't be teaming up with shrader and ww has a 2 front war to wage, i think the only partnership formed now is ww/skyler and i am not even certain skyler is 100% in. the mind fuck ww is playing with and on walt jr is fucking pathetic, but certainly accurate as many people in life use their children as pawns like that.

Walt is headed for a multi-front war where everyone wants him dead and nobody wants to be allies. Hank wants him dead for his sins against the family, Jessie wants him dead for his sins against innocent victims, I'm sure the drug cartel will eventually want him dead for his sins against his former business associates, I'm hoping Skylar will want him dead for something terrible happening to Walt Jr. and so on...


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773497)
i noticed that too, sometimes (rarely) the writing seems to me to miss easy dialogue, they could have made it out like shrader got the $177K from ww some other way, obviously against ww's will.

That's pretty minor. Walt could explain that away as 'Hank just kept saying all his money was tied up or was too hot to access and he needed clean laundered funds to pay out all the medical 'on the books' expenses. The DEA would have a much bigger problem with Hank taking 177K from Walt for any reason than they would have believing the story or wondering why Hank borrowed it exactly. Even if they believe Hank, how does he explain he took 177K in 'illegal gambling winnings' from his brother in law who happens to be a meth kingpin? And Walt didn't even bother getting into the times Hank abused his power to get Marie out of custody when she stole jewelry during the klepto episodes... that's proof Hank operated outside the law in the past and can be corroborated by other law enforcement officials. :2 cents:

Relentless 08-26-2013 08:25 AM

By the way....if you want to see how much Walt has changed...

Go back and watch the end of the very first episode. Walter White is standing in his underwear recording a full confession on a camcorder to explain what went wrong (before he realizes they are going to be fine and destroys the confession).

Then go forward and watch the confession on the DVD Heisenberg gave Hank last night.

Just comparing the two confession tapes from the start and from now, you can see the incredible transformation that Walt has gone through in becoming Heisenberg.

LAJ 08-26-2013 08:31 AM

As much as I love the show, I still can't get over the fact that I have a relative who works on the show who didn't bother responding to me in my request to be a walk on character. Would have paid my way and room and board in ABQ. Even a friggen one line of dialogue customer at the car wash.

Choopa_Pardo 08-26-2013 08:38 AM

Walt's confession video was incredible.

Jesse's epiphany seemed a bit forced, but I think it was needed to hurry the plot along.

dyna mo 08-26-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19773581)
By the way....if you want to see how much Walt has changed...

Go back and watch the end of the very first episode. Walter White is standing in his underwear recording a full confession on a camcorder to explain what went wrong (before he realizes they are going to be fine and destroys the confession).

Then go forward and watch the confession on the DVD Heisenberg gave Hank last night.

Just comparing the two confession tapes from the start and from now, you can see the incredible transformation that Walt has gone through in becoming Heisenberg.

hah, the underwear confession! full circle

Relentless 08-26-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 19773592)
As much as I love the show, I still can't get over the fact that I have a relative who works on the show who didn't bother responding to me in my request to be a walk on character. Would have paid my way and room and board in ABQ. Even a friggen one line of dialogue customer at the car wash.

If it's any consolation...

Have an A-1 Day! :winkwink:

Relentless 08-26-2013 08:55 AM

Also... the part about Hank having guys following Jessie and then the other cop calling them off before Hank leaves the office early for the day seemed to be full of clues....

Was hank leaving early to go follow Jessie... to Saul's office and then to Walt's house? Did the 2 DEA agents not get called off in time and will they be in the driveway soon as well? What happens when they all meet up in Walt's kitchen and Jessie is holding an empty gas can? hahahaha

That's my bet for next week...

Sarah_Jayne 08-26-2013 08:57 AM

Beat any good suspects lately?

Relentless 08-26-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19773625)
Beat any good suspects lately?

"Some people are immune to good advice..."
- Saul Goodman

dyna mo 08-26-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19773622)
Also... the part about Hank having guys following Jessie and then the other cop calling them off before Hank leaves the office early for the day seemed to be full of clues....

Was hank leaving early to go follow Jessie... to Saul's office and then to Walt's house? Did the 2 DEA agents not get called off in time and will they be in the driveway soon as well? What happens when they all meet up in Walt's kitchen and Jessie is holding an empty gas can? hahahaha

That's my bet for next week...

one thing is for certain, jesse doesn't set the house on fire- at all, i just went back and checked the opening scene of blood money and there isn't a burnt anything in that house. it's ransacked but not the least bit burned so someone shows up and gets jesse's revenge pointed in anotther direction, could very well be shrader.

seeandsee 08-26-2013 09:44 AM

this show will explode!

dyna mo 08-26-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19773681)
this show will explode!

best guess for the ending yet! :thumbsup :1orglaugh

kane 08-26-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773504)
i'm also confused about the opening scene, the audio is muffed for some reason on this so it's difficult to make out what meth damon is saying on the phone and if it's forshadowing, because he's then in the diner chatting with the nazi dudes and then off to what, kidnapp ww to cook with a trailer full of chemicals? what do yuu think was up with this scene?

My theory is that Walt will have to take them out. At some point they could be the last thing that links him to the meth business. Assume he eventually takes care of Hank and Jesse one way or the other, those guys, at least Todd, know who he is and what he did. They are also well armed and obviously not shy about using their weapons.

That M60 Walt is packing might just be to use against them.

kane 08-26-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19773464)
I thought that was a little weird too. The doctors told Jesse that Brock got sick from that Lilly of the Valley plant, and not ricin.

I might not be remembering this correctly, but didn't Walt tell Jesse he could make Ricin from a plant?

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Also, in Walt's video he said he gave Hank $177,000 for his medical bills. If Hank was the ring leader of the operation and coercing Walt into cooking, then why would he need to borrow money from his subordinate?
This does seem, at first, a little out of place. The leader of the big meth ring wouldn't need help paying those bills. However, if he wanted to keep things quiet he might have someone else give him the money and come up with a story as to how they have that money to give him this way he doesn't have to explain how he got the money.

Either way, it fucks Hank over. Right now if he turns Walt in they will look heavily into him and want to know about this money. I wouldn't be shocked to find out that Walk has set up a few other things that he could tell the DEA about that would point them to Hank instead of himself.

Relentless 08-26-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19773880)
Either way, it fucks Hank over. Right now if he turns Walt in they will look heavily into him and want to know about this money. I wouldn't be shocked to find out that Walk has set up a few other things that he could tell the DEA about that would point them to Hank instead of himself.

That's the thing with being framed... the longer Hank waits, the more time Walt has to put things in place and generate 'evidence' against him. Hank's best legal move is turning Walt in and taking his lumps as quickly as possible... but he will likely opt for an illegal move like working with Jessie to try and kill Walt. The only ways to deal with blackmail are to get out in front of it and come clean, or to go off the rails and end it at the source :2 cents:

looky_lou 08-26-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19773651)
one thing is for certain, jesse doesn't set the house on fire- at all, i just went back and checked the opening scene of blood money and there isn't a burnt anything in that house. it's ransacked but not the least bit burned so someone shows up and gets jesse's revenge pointed in anotther direction, could very well be shrader.

It gives the impression that he is going to torch the house with gas.

Since the house is not burned in that opening scene, I am guessing that he is really splashing some of the Methlamine chemical used in cooking the meth all over inside the house. That is why it is condemned and fenced off in that scene. The house is contaminated with the chemicals.

dyna mo 08-26-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 19774366)
It gives the impression that he is going to torch the house with gas.

Since the house is not burned in that opening scene, I am guessing that he is really splashing some of the Methlamine chemical used in cooking the meth all over inside the house. That is why it is condemned and fenced off in that scene. The house is contaminated with the chemicals.

it's interesting you say that, i had wondered if maybe the house was fenced off like that because it was declared a toxic waste zone due to meth, but i had discounted that because they never cooked there, if that was chemical he was sloshing that would make perfect sense, i bet you are right in fact, jesse is staining ww's house with meth chem, i also noticed things like the kitchen island had been removed, your angle would account for that.

bronco67 08-26-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 19774366)
It gives the impression that he is going to torch the house with gas.

Since the house is not burned in that opening scene, I am guessing that he is really splashing some of the Methlamine chemical used in cooking the meth all over inside the house. That is why it is condemned and fenced off in that scene. The house is contaminated with the chemicals.

How would Jesse show up at Walt's house with Methlamine, and why would it be in gas cans? Wouldn't he put gas in a gas cans? He's out of the meth game, and it's not like you just walk into a bodega and buy Methlamine.

I think somehow he's going to be stopped. Maybe Walt Jr is in the house, or maybe Hank shows up.

looky_lou 08-26-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19774378)
How would Jesse show up at Walt's house with Methlamine, and why would it be in gas cans? Wouldn't he put gas in a gas cans? He's out of the meth game, and it's not like you just walk into a bodega and buy Methlamine.

I think somehow he's going to be stopped. Maybe Walt Jr is in the house, or maybe Hank shows up.

Yes, possibly he is stopped, but I still question why the house is condemned and fenced off in the end. Can't wait to find out. :thumbsup

Captain Kawaii 08-26-2013 09:48 PM

Love that show. Cranston is a joy to work with.

bhutocracy 08-26-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19774378)
How would Jesse show up at Walt's house with Methlamine, and why would it be in gas cans? Wouldn't he put gas in a gas cans? He's out of the meth game, and it's not like you just walk into a bodega and buy Methlamine.

I think somehow he's going to be stopped. Maybe Walt Jr is in the house, or maybe Hank shows up.

You'd have to think it's Walt Jr or Hank, I don't believe he would have any access whatsoever to methlamine.

LAJ 08-26-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19773617)
If it's any consolation...

Have an A-1 Day! :winkwink:

Nope, LOL... no consolation at all. :(

John-ACWM 08-27-2013 05:34 AM

Saved it for tonight, can't wait :)

howard 08-27-2013 05:45 AM

Fuck... Last episode during Amsterdam show 3am Monday morning...

adendreams 08-27-2013 06:00 AM

GREAT episode but why was the weed taken out of his pocket? Not an easy thing to do - snag weed out of a pocket without someone noticing.

I thought that was a little unnecessary misdirection

adendreams 08-27-2013 06:11 AM

Why would Jesse have Methlamine? He wouldnt have squirreled away any as he had no desire to ever cook again - just a few gallons of gas spread all over a house and furniture would render it pretty much uninhabitable anyway


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