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Paul Markham 06-23-2016 09:32 PM

Brexit, The UK votes LEAVE
 
This is the end of rule from Brussels for the Brits and for others who have the guts to deny the Centralists who want to rule Europe.

What next for the EU?

JamesM83 06-23-2016 09:38 PM

I don't follow "external" politics but I was honestly shocked to hear the results!

rogueteens 06-23-2016 09:40 PM

I don't care what politicians say, if they had listened to the peoples problems with the mass immigration then the vote would have been very different.

wehateporn 06-23-2016 09:53 PM

It's almost 6am, I'll need to go to bed now, I hope I'm not dreaming

Bladewire 06-23-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20984254)
It's almost 6am, I'll need to go to bed now, I hope I'm not dreaming

Don't fret, I'm here. Just close your eyes and thing relaxing thoughts :1orglaugh

k0nr4d 06-23-2016 10:06 PM

Congratulations to the British!

That being said, the referendum doesn't mean shit - it's not legally binding in any way, so the powers that be can just completely ignore it. There is already talk in the EU of banning referendums too because of course you cannot allow something as small as the will of the people to stop socialism...

In Poland it WOULD be legally binding, if frequency is over I think 70%

Bladewire 06-23-2016 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20984272)
... you cannot allow something as small as the will of the people to stop socialism...

Sounds like Bernie Sanders :1orglaugh

NemesisEnforcer 06-23-2016 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984212)
This is the end of rule from Brussels for the Brits and for others who have the guts to deny the Centralists who want to rule Europe.

What next for the EU?

The EU needs a civil war to negate Article 50 and keep the UK in line.

Rochard 06-23-2016 10:13 PM

I thought this was a done deal and that the UK was going to stay. Went for my nightly bike ride, came back, flipped on the news.... And everything had changed. Interesting.

I'm sure it will be all over the news in the morning here in the US.

Bladewire 06-23-2016 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20984290)
I thought this was a done deal and that the UK was going to stay. Went for my nightly bike ride, came back, flipped on the news.... And everything had changed. Interesting.

I'm sure it will be all over the news in the morning here in the US.

Have you ever been to Britain? A great time for a trip there now!

Paul Markham 06-23-2016 10:38 PM

The next step is for other countries to have their referendum. I think France will be next, Holland, Denmark, Austria, will follow.

Because with all the rear tactics of losing trade, the Brits have replied clearly. EU Trade Deals are still leaving us poorer. Not because of those deals, because of all the other laws we get imposed on us. We can Trade and still discuss Crime, Terrorism, Environment, etc. It's EU bureaucrats who were throwing up walls that benefit no one except the people employed inside the EY bureaucracy.

Can Europe trade freely without a small group of expensive paper pushers milking the system? Of course it can and that's all we need, the rest is what we would like.

Paul Markham 06-23-2016 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20984227)
I don't care what politicians say, if they had listened to the peoples problems with the mass immigration then the vote would have been very different.

Mass migration benefits the politicians, why should they listen to the victims?

k0nr4d 06-23-2016 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984326)
The next step is for other countries to have their referendum. I think France will be next, Holland, Denmark, Austria, will follow.

Because with all the rear tactics of losing trade, the Brits have replied clearly. EU Trade Deals are still leaving us poorer. Not because of those deals, because of all the other laws we get imposed on us. We can Trade and still discuss Crime, Terrorism, Environment, etc. It's EU bureaucrats who were throwing up walls that benefit no one except the people employed inside the EY bureaucracy.

Can Europe trade freely without a small group of expensive paper pushers milking the system? Of course it can and that's all we need, the rest is what we would like.

Czech Republic mentioned about a referendum too. I'd love for Poland to leave as well but that won't fly here, too many people brainwashed. France won't leave EU, them and Germany are behind this whole mess.

GBP took a huge hit - which I think is good. UK was once a manufacturing superpower, now there's closed factories everywhere. Lower valued GBP will improve exports.

k0nr4d 06-23-2016 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984329)
Mass migration benefits the politicians, why should they listen to the victims?

I bet if the brexit vote was only for ethnic brits, it would have been 70% leave...

klinton 06-24-2016 12:10 AM

don't spread lies ;-) it's 50 %
Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20984272)
In Poland it WOULD be legally binding, if frequency is over I think 70%


klinton 06-24-2016 12:12 AM

yes, british factories will be a great competition for those from China, India, Korea, Brazil and Turkey :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:
</sarcasm off>
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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20984335)
GBP took a huge hit - which I think is good. UK was once a manufacturing superpower, now there's closed factories everywhere. Lower valued GBP will improve exports.


Paul&John 06-24-2016 12:36 AM

Congrats, i guess

k0nr4d 06-24-2016 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20984398)
don't spread lies ;-) it's 50 %

You are right, my mistake - I was sure it was 70% though


Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20984401)
yes, british factories will be a great competition for those from China, India, Korea, Brazil and Turkey :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:
</sarcasm off>

20-30 years ago, UK was producing cars, car parts, and tons of other shit. Poland was too. The EU ruined everything and now we buy everything from Western Europe...

The EU and EURO was created by Germany as a means of devaluing their own currency so they could export more goods as a benefit to their own economy...

NickBaer 06-24-2016 12:48 AM

Talk of Northern Ireland having a Vote on re-unification with (southern) Ireland.

Relic 06-24-2016 12:52 AM

A culture worth preserving
 

Paul Markham 06-24-2016 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20984422)
You are right, my mistake - I was sure it was 70% though

20-30 years ago, UK was producing cars, car parts, and tons of other shit. Poland was too. The EU ruined everything and now we buy everything from Western Europe...

The EU and EURO was created by Germany as a means of devaluing their own currency so they could export more goods as a benefit to their own economy...

How much of Southern Europe's debt. Was spent buying German products?

The UK still produces cars, not as many as Germany and they don't sell as many to
Germany as Germany sells to the UK.

David Cameron has resigned. So te new Government has to go to EU countries and speak to their unions and companies to make them force the EU to keep trade flowing two ways on an even basis. A Norway style deal is unacceptable and only for the good of the EU bureaucrats.

klinton 06-24-2016 12:59 AM

only partially true.
biggest exporters in the world: China, Japan, Germany.

where are your clothes are made, if you buy them in most popular "european" shops, shopping for them in Poland, Spain, UK, germany, whatever ? in Bangladesh, India, China, Pakistan. this has nothing to do with EU.
"we buy everything from Western Europe" - only partially true. Poland has strong internal market and Poles are competitive guys ;-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20984422)
You are right, my mistake - I was sure it was 70% though




20-30 years ago, UK was producing cars, car parts, and tons of other shit. Poland was too. The EU ruined everything and now we buy everything from Western Europe...

The EU and EURO was created by Germany as a means of devaluing their own currency so they could export more goods as a benefit to their own economy...


Paul Markham 06-24-2016 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 20984428)
Talk of Northern Ireland having a Vote on re-unification with (southern) Ireland.

Southern Ireland suffers if that border is closed.

Paul Markham 06-24-2016 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20984458)
only partially true.
biggest exporters in the world: China, Japan, Germany.

where are your clothes are made, if you buy them in most popular "european" shops, shopping for them in Poland, Spain, UK, germany, whatever ? in Bangladesh, India, China, Pakistan. this has nothing to do with EU.
"we buy everything from Western Europe" - only partially true. Poland has strong internal market and Poles are competitive guys ;-)

Anyone with an ounce of sense knows a balanced trade deal is the most beneficial for the West. It stops dead countries like Bangladesh, India, China, Pakistan and Czech Republic dumping goods and services on the richer Nations. Putting millions out of work, on low wages, part-time work, etc.

But it doesn't suit the owners of the corporations and Germany.

The problem is the Third Word has no intentions of only making things like clothes. What happens when companies like Apple, Microsoft, Boeing, GM, spring up in China, owned by the Chinese? And if you don't think that will happen, you must be living under a rock.

k0nr4d 06-24-2016 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20984458)
only partially true.
biggest exporters in the world: China, Japan, Germany.

where are your clothes are made, if you buy them in most popular "european" shops, shopping for them in Poland, Spain, UK, germany, whatever ? in Bangladesh, India, China, Pakistan. this has nothing to do with EU.
"we buy everything from Western Europe" - only partially true. Poland has strong internal market and Poles are competitive guys ;-)

Yes, germany is big exporter. Here's polish milk sold as german product in china...
https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...04&oe=57EE1F75

klinton 06-24-2016 01:26 AM

hah......
so you say that there is no milk in that milk for polish producer ? I honestly dont think so and they earn what they earn.
I also saw polish food being sold in China branded as - polish food. many examples of that.
just like in Saudi Arabia etc.
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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20984485)
Yes, germany is big exporter. Here's polish milk sold as german product in china...
https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...04&oe=57EE1F75


klinton 06-24-2016 01:28 AM

its XXI century, not XIV.
I bet that you enjoyed through the years "dumping prices" of cheap Czech models.
If you are patriot like that, you should employ only UK models or pay the Czech ones UK money :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984482)
Anyone with an ounce of sense knows a balanced trade deal is the most beneficial for the West. It stops dead countries like Bangladesh, India, China, Pakistan and Czech Republic dumping goods and services on the richer Nations. Putting millions out of work, on low wages, part-time work, etc.

But it doesn't suit the owners of the corporations and Germany.

The problem is the Third Word has no intentions of only making things like clothes. What happens when companies like Apple, Microsoft, Boeing, GM, spring up in China, owned by the Chinese? And if you don't think that will happen, you must be living under a rock.


pimpmaster9000 06-24-2016 02:31 AM

brexit is the intellectual equivalent of trumps wall...

the real problem is that nobody wants to employ expensive westerners...this will never change...

nobody wants to invest money in a company that employs expensive westerners, investors want the most bang for their $$$....this will never change

nobody wants to produce goods with expensive labor and crippling regulations in the west...this will never change

editeur 06-24-2016 02:44 AM

https://m.popkey.co/340e51/KlNKZ.gif

Sarn 06-24-2016 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by editeur (Post 20984614)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

emill 06-24-2016 02:58 AM

eu will be dissolved like SFRJ history teaches us

pimpmaster9000 06-24-2016 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emill (Post 20984629)
eu will be dissolved like SFRJ history teaches us

yugoslavia....for those who do not know what SFRJ is

Paul Markham 06-24-2016 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20984527)
its XXI century, not XIV.
I bet that you enjoyed through the years "dumping prices" of cheap Czech models.
If you are patriot like that, you should employ only UK models or pay the Czech ones UK money :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

We did pay Czech models UK rates. We came here because of their looks, not prices.

Paul Markham 06-24-2016 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20984608)
brexit is the intellectual equivalent of trumps wall...

the real problem is that nobody wants to employ expensive westerners...this will never change...

nobody wants to invest money in a company that employs expensive westerners, investors want the most bang for their $$$....this will never change

nobody wants to produce goods with expensive labor and crippling regulations in the west...this will never change

So who will buy the goods when Western workers are unemployed?

klinton 06-24-2016 03:30 AM

Robots !
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984659)
So who will buy the goods when Western workers are unemployed?


klinton 06-24-2016 03:30 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by editeur (Post 20984614)


Paul Markham 06-24-2016 03:44 AM

This is the first step for Europeans to regain control of their countries. We've seen the damage the EU is doing.

The Euro was the biggest cock-up ever.

The CAP is to keep farmers voting for the politicians offering it. It has forced up the price of food.

Mass migration is a catastrophe.

The endless red tape coming from Brussels has to be stopped.

Corruption and fraud are endemic in the EU.

The EU is unable to present its accounts for auditing.

The biggest problem is the people committing the cock-ups. Are gaining strength and want to rule Europe. And all we need is a trading agreement. The EU trades with many countries it has nothing else to do with. No reason for the same deal with Europeans nations.

klinton 06-24-2016 03:47 AM

like the countries outside EU would be free of corruption :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984686)
Corruption and fraud are endemic in the EU. .


klinton 06-24-2016 04:04 AM

if thats true, I give you Your Honour back ;-)
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984656)
We did pay Czech models UK rates. We came here because of their looks, not prices.


Scott McD 06-24-2016 04:06 AM

Has Merkel commented on this yet ??


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