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SleazyDream 12-14-2009 08:58 PM
just got served today- unreal
 
god I LOVE stupid lawyers

i'm in bankruptcy!

first rule in suing someone civilly, there must be a chance of getting something!

it's for a shooting in my bar - before i owned the bar i owned the building and a tenant ran the bar - i inherited the tenant - and they had a shooting.... it was OUTSIDE the bar and on the street....

i evicted the tenant for not paying a month after that happened.

they're suing me cause i owned the building

unreal......

Deej 12-14-2009 08:59 PM
who is suing you? the city for the shooting? or the old tenant?

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16646239)
who is suing you? the city for the shooting? or the old tenant?
one of the girls that got shot in the shoulder.

i feel sorry for her, but shit, if i'm liable for this anyone who beats their wife in a rented appartment should hold the landlord liable for the wife beater.........

MetaMan 12-14-2009 09:02 PM
I simply cannot believe some of the trash in winnipeg now. the city is a big ghetto now. it is sad because i was born there and still do go back.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 09:02 PM
you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit.

I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 09:03 PM
i fucking hate that city - i love gimli though

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 09:04 PM
and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission

spacedog 12-14-2009 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646249)
you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit.

I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him.
Instead of doing that, counter sue him for filing a frivolous lawsuit and seek damages :2 cents:

D Ghost 12-14-2009 09:10 PM
sounds ridiculous

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 16646263)
Instead of doing that, counter sue him for filing a frivolous lawsuit and seek damages :2 cents:
you get shit for that in canada, it's based on legal fees from 1973

JD 12-14-2009 09:18 PM
lmk your address yo. i wanna sue you for stealing my heart

Waddymelon 12-14-2009 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646253)
and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission
Maybe you should keep your door locked. I'll refrain from calling you an idiot, though... this time.

jjmerago 12-14-2009 09:37 PM
Sorry man I wished the story was that you had been Served by a dance crew ... at least it would have been funny.

BSleazy 12-14-2009 09:38 PM
Ya that's complete bullshit.

BillyHoe 12-14-2009 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646253)
and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission
Holy shit. I'd have kicked ass. But knowing our legal system in Canada you'd probably get charged for assault. Had you been in the states you could of shot the fucker for trespassing.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyHoe (Post 16646352)
Holy shit. I'd have kicked ass. But knowing our legal system in Canada you'd probably get charged for assault. Had you been in the states you could of shot the fucker for trespassing.
i have had many death threats and they are documented with the police.... i think i could have legally kicked the snot out of him in my house for illegal entry

heymatty 12-14-2009 10:02 PM
There's every chance you'll be out of bankruptcy by the time of the judgment. The full legal process is anything but fast.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by heymatty (Post 16646374)
There's every chance you'll be out of bankruptcy by the time of the judgment. The full legal process is anything but fast.
it's timeframe based on this kind of thing.... subject to my bankrupsy for that time period even if i make millions later

theking 12-14-2009 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646249)
you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit.

I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him.
I do not know Canada law...but I do think that in the states one being in bankruptcy would have any relevance. If the attorney won a law suit against you it could become collectable based upon future earnings for the next x number of years and then renewed for another x number of years etc. In addition a good attorney will sue anyone and everyone directly connected to an event or indirectly connected to an event to see what sticks to the wall and what doesn't. In example...a farmer was irrigating his crop with aluminum sprinkler pipe. The water sprayed onto a highway...and caused a car to lose control on the wet highway and the couple in the car sustained life long injuries. The farmer was sued...the outlet that sold the pipe to the farmer was sued...the manufacturer of the pipe was sued...the manufacturer of the sprinklers was sued...the county was sued (it was a county highway)...etc. If I remember correctly only the farmer was found to be liable...and of course he had insurance which for the most part covered the award...but not all of it.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16646478)
I do not know Canada law...but I do think that in the states one being in bankruptcy would have any relevance. If the attorney won a law suit against you it could become collectable based upon future earnings for the next x number of years and then renewed for another x number of years etc. In addition a good attorney will sue anyone and everyone directly connected to an event or indirectly connected to an event to see what sticks to the wall and what doesn't. In example...a farmer was irrigating his crop with aluminum sprinkler pipe. The water sprayed onto a highway...and caused a car to lose control on the wet highway and the couple in the car sustained life long injuries. The farmer was sued...the outlet that sold the pipe to the farmer was sued...the manufacturer of the pipe was sued...the manufacturer of the sprinklers was sued...the county was sued (it was a country highway)...etc. If I remember correctly only the farmer was found to be liable...and of course he had insurance which for the most part covered the award...but not all of it.
bankruptcy removes all obligation from that outside of criminal judgments... you can bankrupt out of a civil liability

theking 12-14-2009 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646484)
bankruptcy removes all obligation from that outside of criminal judgments... you can bankrupt out of a civil liability
Well...you live in Canada and I don't...but it is difficult for me to understand why one would be relieved of civil liability simply because one is in bankruptcy. I will say that even if you were not in bankruptcy I doubt that you...being the owner of the building...would be held liable for an event that involved a business/tenant in the building...but I do understand why the attorney would include you.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16646518)
Well...you live in Canada and I don't...but it is difficult for me to understand why one would be relieved of civil liability simply because one is in bankruptcy. I will say that even if you were not in bankruptcy I doubt that you...being the owner of the building...would be held liable for an event that involved a business/tenant in the building...but I do understand why the attorney would include you.
bankrupsy is almost the same as death in legal terms - you loose everything and start over.

they would have a claim against the estate, but not my new life.

same in the usa I believe - otherwise what would be the point of bankrupsy?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-14-2009 11:18 PM
You just don't fuck all for luck do you man?

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16646522)
You just don't fuck all for luck do you man?
everything related to that fucking building blew up in my face and it's STILL comming at me - God damn place was cursed

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-14-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646524)
everything related to that fucking building blew up in my face and it's STILL comming at me - God damn place was cursed
Sounds like it :Oh crap

FrozenJag 12-14-2009 11:22 PM
SD...

Arent you opening a program soon?

Thx.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 16646531)
SD...

Arent you opening a program soon?

Thx.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=943119

kane 12-14-2009 11:24 PM
I know some lawyers go with the attitude of suing anyone and everyone that is remotely connected to something in hopes that they will settle or that during discovery they will find some reason to put some of the blame on you.

It's pretty fucked up, but like you said, you just rented the place to him, you can't be responsible for everything that goes on in there.

FrozenJag 12-14-2009 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646532)
Hit me up on icq real quick. Just need 2 mins...

352987817

theking 12-14-2009 11:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646520)
bankrupsy is almost the same as death in legal terms - you loose everything and start over.

they would have a claim against the estate, but not my new life.

same in the usa I believe - otherwise what would be the point of bankrupsy?
Bankruptcy gives one relief from one set of financial circumstances...but I find it difficult to believe that bankruptcy would relieve one of any and all liabilities. I am not an attorney and do not know the definitive law about this matter in the states...but my confidence level is high when I say that if it was in the states and one in fact was found to be liable for the business/tenants actions...I do not think that bankruptcy would be a defense to not having to pay on that liability as it is a different set of circumstance other than what the declaration of bankruptcy was based upon. I think a judgement would be brought against future earnings.

twistyneck 12-14-2009 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16646543)
Bankruptcy gives one relief from one set of financial circumstances...but I find it difficult to believe that bankruptcy would relieve one of any and all liabilities. I am not an attorney and do not know the definitive law about this matter in the states...but my confidence level is high when I say that if it was in the states and one in fact was found to be liable for the business/tenants actions...I do not think that bankruptcy would be a defense to not having to pay on that liability as it is a different set of circumstance other than what the declaration of bankruptcy was based upon. I think a judgement would be brought against future earnings.
You're a fucking idiot. The whole point of bankruptcy is to wipe out liabilities.

SleazyDream 12-14-2009 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by twistyneck (Post 16646583)
You're a fucking idiot. The whole point of bankruptcy is to wipe out liabilities.
thank you.


and the cost of doing it is everything you own

the only thing that's really exempt is criminal liability


we don't have debtors prison... they got rid of that a few hundred years ago

pornlaw 12-15-2009 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646242)
one of the girls that got shot in the shoulder.

i feel sorry for her, but shit, if i'm liable for this anyone who beats their wife in a rented appartment should hold the landlord liable for the wife beater.........
You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.

Iron Fist 12-15-2009 12:25 AM
This is going to complicate your new program opening isn't it....

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:26 AM
;)
.................

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16646625)
This is going to complicate your new program opening isn't it....
nope :thumbsup

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16646616)
You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.
same here - it's a hastle though from someone too dumb to do his reseach

GTS Mark 12-15-2009 12:33 AM
wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya!

Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 16646644)
wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya!

Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!
he's too old to hear properly anymore

Deej 12-15-2009 12:36 AM
waiyt wait waoiyt


You have had numerous death threats an dyou sleep with your door unlocked?


Dude/// Skufty cant save all... lock that shit!!


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