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bronco67 06-23-2011 07:31 AM

Apple awarded multi-touch patent -- this could be UGLY
 
http://www.redmondpie.com/apple-gran...now-uncertain/

Do you think they'll start suing the fuck out of everyone, and blocking competitors from making new devices with touch-screens? It's a safe bet.

DamianJ 06-23-2011 07:36 AM

Apple sux etc

beta-tester 06-23-2011 07:40 AM

yeah I thought they will be granted that. Now we'll see what happens with the others using the same technology...

Redrob 06-23-2011 07:50 AM

I wouldn't want to be Job's bitch......

Mutt 06-23-2011 07:51 AM

oh fuck that is ridiculous - Apple didn't invent touch screen technology.

ok so i can go register a patent for a screen on a mobile device that is sensitive to the movement of my fingers without touching the screen at all and get it it i guess? or a patent on mobile device that is voice activated?

i don't know who has the patent on touch screen technology - whoever did deserves a patent.

before you get a fucking patent you should have to produce a working demo of it not just let idiots write down some idea in their head with some technical illustrations.

u-Bob 06-23-2011 07:51 AM

patents suck and limit innovation.

iwantchixx 06-23-2011 07:55 AM

That's all kinds of fucked up. HP had that technology in action long before Apple did.
It's bullshit like that patent that destroys the ability for any company to ever keep up with technological trends or it just means more money in apple's pockets.

iwantchixx 06-23-2011 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18235183)
oh fuck that is ridiculous - Apple didn't invent touch screen technology.

ok so i can go register a patent for a screen on a mobile device that is sensitive to the movement of my fingers without touching the screen at all and get it it i guess? or a patent on mobile device that is voice activated?

i don't know who has the patent on touch screen technology - whoever did deserves a patent.

before you get a fucking patent you should have to produce a working demo of it not just let idiots write down some idea in their head with some technical illustrations.

They aren't patenting touch screens, they are patenting multi-touch

FlowerKid 06-23-2011 07:59 AM

I don't think they can patent multi-touch now, because anyone is using it already and it's nothing special anymore these days. At least i hope they aren't able to do so...

2MuchMark 06-23-2011 08:04 AM

Peeps... if Apple invented it and awarded the patent, they own it. How can you talk like this yet be against Tube sites at the same time?

Apple could easily sell the use of their technology to other phone and tablet makers if they choose to. Technology licensing rewards the inventors and grows the company and allows continued innovation.

2MuchMark 06-23-2011 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18235192)
That's all kinds of fucked up. HP had that technology in action long before Apple did.
It's bullshit like that patent that destroys the ability for any company to ever keep up with technological trends or it just means more money in apple's pockets.

By this thinking, it's ok for Tube sites to give away all the content you shot and own, because you don't need more money, right? And after all, Tube sites need money too, right?

Far-L 06-23-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlowerKid (Post 18235202)
I don't think they can patent multi-touch now, because anyone is using it already and it's nothing special anymore these days. At least i hope they aren't able to do so...

The patent was applied for 4 years ago. That is how long the process took before they were awarded it.

JamesGw 06-23-2011 08:42 AM

They might've come up with the idea first (maybe), but they sure as hell weren't the first to implement it. This is crap.

d-null 06-23-2011 08:46 AM

this makes me hate Apple and never will buy an Apple product, fuck them

JFK 06-23-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18235285)
The patent was applied for 4 years ago. That is how long the process took before they were awarded it.

WOW, pretty instant service:winkwink:

96ukssob 06-23-2011 08:53 AM

As much as I like Apple, that is kind of bs IMO. How can they patent that kind of technology, its almost like trying to patent the steering wheel

bronco67 06-23-2011 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18235324)
this makes me hate Apple and never will buy an Apple product, fuck them

There could be a lot of people with that mindset. If Apple doesn't tread carefully with this new development, they could end up alienating lots of potential customers, and just have a general backlash against them that could really hurt them.

I actually hope this happens.

Emil 06-23-2011 09:01 AM

What the fuck! Fucking Apple.

Due 06-23-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18235340)
As much as I like Apple, that is kind of bs IMO. How can they patent that kind of technology, its almost like trying to patent the steering wheel

If they invented it then why not ? Allowing them to monetize their inventions is pretty fair

Rochard 06-23-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18235183)
oh fuck that is ridiculous - Apple didn't invent touch screen technology.

ok so i can go register a patent for a screen on a mobile device that is sensitive to the movement of my fingers without touching the screen at all and get it it i guess? or a patent on mobile device that is voice activated?

i don't know who has the patent on touch screen technology - whoever did deserves a patent.

before you get a fucking patent you should have to produce a working demo of it not just let idiots write down some idea in their head with some technical illustrations.

I agree, you shouldn't be able to patent common sense things. "I"m gonna patent the use of buttons for radios".

It's just like the Acacia lawsuits. They have a patent for "the delivery compressed video files via the Internet". Their patent is so fucking vague it sounds like they are trying to transport musical instruments through time and space to another location.

potter 06-23-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18235340)
As much as I like Apple, that is kind of bs IMO. How can they patent that kind of technology, its almost like trying to patent the steering wheel


..there are plenty of patents for steering wheels

NaughtyRob 06-23-2011 09:07 AM

Exactly. I wondered about this after other people started coming out with multi-touch. Apple indeed used it first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 18235357)
If they invented it then why not ? Allowing them to monetize their inventions is pretty fair

Multi-touch is not common sense. They invented it. Its not something any Joe could invent like a dice game or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18235359)
I agree, you shouldn't be able to patent common sense things. "I"m gonna patent the use of buttons for radios".


Due 06-23-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18235185)
patents suck and limit innovation.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh How ??

Do you think innovators work for free ?

NetHorse 06-23-2011 09:42 AM

Wow, this is big news. Nokia was set to release their N9 with MeeGo. Despite volume buttons it relies 100% on multi-touch.

http://www.phonenews.com/wp-content/...06/image36.png

BTW, this Nokia phone looks super sleek, really caught my attention.

MaDalton 06-23-2011 09:45 AM

Apple stole the mouse and windows desktop from Xerox - just saying

bronco67 06-23-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18235452)
Apple stole the mouse and windows desktop from Xerox - just saying

I remember that from Triumph of the Nerds documentary.

Markul 06-23-2011 10:13 AM

Apple didnt invent touch screens.. my ancient HTC had touch screen before the iPhone was out

seeandsee 06-23-2011 10:15 AM

fyck ya apple, you didt create all you are just fucking money wanters

DateDoc 06-23-2011 10:18 AM

The Apple attorneys are hard at work today. Should be a nice cash flow for them if they just go the licensing route.

NaughtyRob 06-23-2011 10:20 AM

There is a big difference between "touch screens" and MULTI TOUCH.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 18235516)
Apple didnt invent touch screens.. my ancient HTC had touch screen before the iPhone was out


Markul 06-23-2011 10:23 AM

True :)

8char

RebelR 06-23-2011 10:46 AM

Now This is a Game Changer! Correct me if I'm wrong, but the multi-touch just refers to the ability to zoom by moving two fingers inwards and outwards to zoom, or 3 fingers for scrolling to the bottom of a page and moves like that correct? The others will just have to come up with a new and more innovative way to make their products unique and more user friendly.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2011 10:51 AM

Weird I remember ATM Machines having touch screens way back in 2000.
So Multi-TOuch is different LOL! Of course! of course....

potter 06-23-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18235538)
There is a big difference between "touch screens" and MULTI TOUCH.

And there's also no way to patent "multi touch", that's not what Apple did. Apple got a patent on THEIR multi touch. If other companies are using something different than they're fine.

It's like the remote control sitting next to me. It's probably patented. But "remotes" aren't patented. The specific technology this specific remote might use could be though.

Or "jet engines". No one has a patent on "jet engines", however every jet engine out there is patented. If I want a jet engine I have two options - I can buy someone else's or make up my own.

Joshua G 06-23-2011 02:07 PM

This sucks. If apple is able to squeeze competitors with royalty payments. Then the fee will be passed onto the customers.

Its always the consumer that takes it in the ass.

buildingfutures 06-23-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18235330)
WOW, pretty instant service:winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

iwantchixx 06-23-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18235219)
By this thinking, it's ok for Tube sites to give away all the content you shot and own, because you don't need more money, right? And after all, Tube sites need money too, right?

What the fuck are you talking about? We are talking about patents and how broad patents hurt innovation in the marketplace because of greed, not tube sites. So since we are grabbing at straws here about unrelated things, let me remind you of something related. Acacia. You must support their efforts then if we are going to use this kind of logic.

Geez now I remember why I stopped posting here a few years back. because of people who look way too deep into other people's posts and come back with unrelated matters to prove a pointless view on something

iwantchixx 06-23-2011 02:40 PM

now that I think of it, HP wasn't using multi-touch before apple did.. it was infrared sensors in each corner of the screen that sensed when something got "in it's way" and interpolated the position to the computer. however, microsoft has been. Remember microsoft surface? There's proof of prior art there... unless apple had prior art in their labs long before MS started working on the surface platform.

iwantchixx 06-23-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18235324)
this makes me hate Apple and never will buy an Apple product, fuck them

Careful, this ********** fella might think you support stolen content on tubes with that kind of thinking lol

woj 06-23-2011 03:08 PM

you guys make it sound like patenting stuff is something new... ALL major tech companies patent anytime some engineer dreams up some even remotely plausible technology....


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