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SilentKnight 12-27-2015 07:49 PM

E-cig/vapers - might want to read this
 
Since there's quite a few vaping folks here on GFY - and as an e-cig/vape user myself - I wanted to pass along preliminary findings from this new study they're releasing from Harvard.

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

gnawledge 12-27-2015 08:26 PM

I was vaping for a while and it did something to my lungs. It is some toxic shit. The PG or VG coats your lungs with a film and you cough shit out all the time. Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops. I gave it up and just chew nicotine gum.

ErectMedia 12-27-2015 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 20680333)
Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops.

:1orglaugh

SBJ 12-27-2015 09:36 PM

I like my hookah smoking once a day and I could give a shit if it's unhealthy to me.. Everything you consume is bad for you if you dig deep enough.

OneHungLo 12-27-2015 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20680302)
Since there's quite a few vaping folks here on GFY - and as an e-cig/vape user myself - I wanted to pass along preliminary findings from this new study they're releasing from Harvard.

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

I really think we should wait for WHP's youtube analysis instead of these Harvard researchers :2 cents:

Vendot 12-27-2015 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20680388)
I really think we should wait for WHP's youtube analysis instead of these Harvard researchers :2 cents:

Dude, get rid of that Polish Aristocrat photo... its like a ghost and its freaking me out.

DBS.US 12-27-2015 11:05 PM

I was in a Hong Kong 7/11 and ask about vaping products. They guy told me:
Hong Kong the sale and possession of nicotine-based electronic cigarettes, classified as a Type I Poison, is governed under the Pharmacy and Poisons Ordinance. Sale or possession is not authorized and both are considered punishable with a fine of up to HK$100,000 and/or a prison term of 2 years.

He said in China they do no testing on the vape juice and make it out of anything that smells good and is cheap. They also make counterfeit U.S. made vape juice. Their factories are making this poison 24 hours a day and shipping as fast as they can to make as much money as possible before the dumb Americans figure out there killing themselfs.
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woj 12-28-2015 06:56 AM

The title "Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors" is a bit misleading...

all they found is that certain potentially harmful substances were "detected"... but that's meaningless, one could "detect" trace quantities of lead in tomatoes or trace mercury in fish and then write a headline implying that eating tomatoes or fish is dangerous...

no where did they say that these substances were detected in unsafe quantities...

Colmike9 12-28-2015 07:44 AM

The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade.
You guys know how I used to do blogging while smoking 5-10 hookahs in a row, right?.. I haven't touched one hookah since getting an eHookah and I can feel the difference in breathing much better after about a month and a half. If it's flavoring that's bad for you, get it unflavored..

Va2k 12-28-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20680859)
The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade.
You guys know how I used to do blogging while smoking 5-10 hookahs in a row, right?.. I haven't touched one hookah since getting an eHookah and I can feel the difference in breathing much better after about a month and a half. If it's flavoring that's bad for you, get it unflavored..

What the fuck is hookahs and does it get you high or just taste good? IM so lost on that shit, I tried looking it up on google but shit that was NO help.

Colmike9 12-28-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Va2k (Post 20680886)
What the fuck is hookahs and does it get you high or just taste good? IM so lost on that shit, I tried looking it up on google but shit that was NO help.

It gets me high when I put weed in it.. ;)

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Manfap 12-28-2015 08:31 AM

You were claiming they were harmless 6 month ago, and got arsey when people pointed out they may not be.

Colmike9 12-28-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20680859)
The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade.

Good grade?.. lol, my phone meant to say "food grade" :upsidedow

blackmonsters 12-28-2015 08:52 AM

I took one e-cig hit and hacked my lungs out for 3 minutes.
That was the first and last puff I took.


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wehateporn 12-28-2015 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20680388)
I really think we should wait for WHP's youtube analysis instead of these Harvard researchers :2 cents:

Remember folks, toxic chemicals are only OK if there's a big industry behind them; they use some special magic to make them 'safe'. The toxic stuff can be safely injected via a Big Pharma vaccine or smoked from a Big Tobacco cigarette, that's the rule OK, don't let's get confused now! Big industry funds the 'safety' studies, that's why they know best.

Colmike9 12-28-2015 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20680912)
Remember folks, toxic chemicals are only OK if there's a big industry behind them; they use some special magic to make them 'safe'. The toxic stuff can be safely injected via a Big Pharma vaccine or smoked from a Big Tobacco cigarette, that's the rule OK, don't let's get confused now! Big industry funds the studies, that's why they know best. :pimp

It's just propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin and tiny bit of nicotine. It's the flavors that get you. :upsidedow

Barry-xlovecam 12-28-2015 09:07 AM

Regardless of the respiratory issues, smokeless nicotine introduction into your bloodstream will still give you all the cardiovascular problems associated with smoking cigarettes -- heart attack and stroke from arteriosclerosis ... So what is the point? Just quit smoking.

wehateporn 12-28-2015 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20680914)
It's just propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin and tiny bit of nicotine. It's the flavors that get you. :upsidedow

I'm sure the e-cigs are a lot less dangerous than vaccines and cigarettes

MaDalton 12-28-2015 09:16 AM

how can you pump that stuff in your lungs and think it has no effect?

BIGTYMER 12-28-2015 09:22 AM

Not a fan of the ecigs. I tried them for two days and got some chest pains. Like mild heartburn. Stopped and it went away. I'll stick to smoking weed or real cigarettes.

Colmike9 12-28-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20680930)
Not a fan of the ecigs. I tried them for two days and got some chest pains. Like mild heartburn. Stopped and it went away. I'll stick to smoking weed or real cigarettes.

Yeah, weed is probably the best alternative to smoking. When I vape, I get the higher nicotine so that I'll hit it once or twice and I'm good for a while rather than smoking a hookah for about 45 minutes non stop.. I'm trying to quit and it helps, and no coals or tobacco to deal with..

The Porn Nerd 12-28-2015 10:42 AM

THE TRUTH ABOUT VAPING:

Don't inhale.

Got it? I'll type it again:

DO NOT INHALE.

The ecig oil is meant to be absorbed IN THE MOUTH. It is an oil, a food (if you will), and the membranes in the mouth dissolve and absorb the oil better than the lungs. That's why you HACK when you inhale. You shouldn't be inhaling!!

When it comes to WEED vaping this is doubly (or triply) true. A joint gets you about 18% THC while a weed ecig (when NOT inhaled but held in the mouth for a few seconds then exhaled) will get you a whopping 85-90% THC!

For anyone inhaling weed vape try holding it in your mouth, like sipping in soda through a straw but not swallowing. It will KNOCK YOU OUT.

BIGTYMER 12-28-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20681009)
When it comes to WEED vaping this is doubly (or triply) true. A joint gets you about 18% THC while a weed ecig (when NOT inhaled but held in the mouth for a few seconds then exhaled) will get you a whopping 85-90% THC!

For anyone inhaling weed vape try holding it in your mouth, like sipping in soda through a straw but not swallowing. It will KNOCK YOU OUT.

So I guess Doug Benson has been doing it right all these years! That fucker never inhales. :winkwink: :1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 12-28-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20681023)
So I guess Doug Benson has been doing it right all these years! That fucker never inhales. :winkwink: :1orglaugh

Don't know who that is. LOL I know Bill Clinton supposedly didn't inhale (other than Monica Lewinsky's perfume).

I was 'doing it wrong' for a couple years by inhaling the ecig oil. But then I went on YouTube and watched a couple videos on how EXACTLY to vape to best effect. They said do not inhale but just hold the vaper in your mouth for as long as possible then exhale. When I did it right for the first time it was the highest high I have had in YEARS. Wild.

Want to go even higher? Alternate between a vape (holding it in your mouth) then smoking a joint right after. Hoo boy wowza!!

Colmike9 12-28-2015 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20681042)
Don't know who that is. LOL I know Bill Clinton supposedly didn't inhale (other than Monica Lewinsky's perfume).

I was 'doing it wrong' for a couple years by inhaling the ecig oil. But then I went on YouTube and watched a couple videos on how EXACTLY to vape to best effect. They said do not inhale but just hold the vaper in your mouth for as long as possible then exhale. When I did it right for the first time it was the highest high I have had in YEARS. Wild.

Want to go even higher? Alternate between a vape (holding it in your mouth) then smoking a joint right after. Hoo boy wowza!!

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/movi...01_p_v7_aa.jpg

The only thing that really gets me high anymore besides smoking a half 8 to an 8th by myself are dabs..

Spunky 12-28-2015 11:35 AM

Well it's still better than smoking cigarettes ,probably time I quit this shit too

The Porn Nerd 12-28-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20681048)
http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/movi...01_p_v7_aa.jpg

The only thing that really gets me high anymore besides smoking a half 8 to an 8th by myself are dabs..

LOL Oh man I gotta see that shit. :)

Try mixing shit up - edibles one day, vapes another, bongs then joints then dabs....

Or, for something TRULY radical: stop for a week. :)

Colmike9 12-28-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20681145)
LOL Oh man I gotta see that shit. :)

Honestly it was over hyped, it's more fun watching your friends get high...

candyflip 12-28-2015 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20681145)
Or, for something TRULY radical: stop for a week. :)

My favorite high is the one that comes right after I get home from vacation or a business trip.

$money$ 12-28-2015 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20681148)
Honestly it was over hyped, it's more fun watching your friends get high...

:2 cents:

BIGTYMER 12-28-2015 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20681148)
Honestly it was over hyped, it's more fun watching your friends get high...

Yep but I do like his YouTube sometimes. Getting Doug with High.

The Porn Nerd 12-28-2015 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20681534)
My favorite high is the one that comes right after I get home from vacation or a business trip.

Mine too. When I'm not smoking I'm amazed at how much I don't miss it but when I smoke again I'm amazed I ever stopped. :)

georgeyw 12-28-2015 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 20680333)
I was vaping for a while and it did something to my lungs. It is some toxic shit. The PG or VG coats your lungs with a film and you cough shit out all the time. Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops. I gave it up and just chew nicotine gum.

Had the same problem, felt like it limited my breathing, so turfed it years ago.

j3rkules 12-29-2015 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 20680391)
Dude, get rid of that Polish Aristocrat photo... its like a ghost and its freaking me out.

:1orglaugh

NewNick 12-29-2015 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20680919)
I'm sure the e-cigs are a lot less dangerous than vaccines and cigarettes

Why ?

You do know who owns the he biggest e-cig brands in the Uk ?

Right ?

JFK 12-29-2015 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20680908)
I took one e-cig hit and hacked my lungs out for 3 minutes.
That was the first and last puff I took.


.

Some people smoke em like Chimneys, wait a few years , when all the negative shit will come out about it :pimp

SilentKnight 12-29-2015 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 20682297)
Some people smoke em like Chimneys, wait a few years , when all the negative shit will come out about it :pimp

A lot of people are waiting to see the FDA study results...if that ever happens. They have to use up all the funding first.

In the interim...we get these other studies from Harvard to at least consider.

Jigster715 05-19-2016 07:04 PM

Exploding vaporizer rips hole in man's tongue - CNN.com

BlackCrayon 05-19-2016 07:43 PM

Jesus ducking Christmas people just quit.

The Porn Nerd 05-19-2016 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20907524)
Jesus ducking Christmas people just quit.

OK Nancy Reagan, thanks.


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