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Quotealex 12-26-2008 11:53 AM

Who has physical gold and silver coins and bars?
 
Raise you hand if you own any physical gold and silver, not stocks or certificates? If so where do you buy them?

John-ACWM 12-26-2008 11:56 AM

I had some silver coins. If I get a hold of them I'll let you know

stickyfingerz 12-26-2008 11:56 AM

quite a few on this board, I know at least one that can point you in the right direction, but won't speak up for him.

EthnicLover 12-26-2008 12:04 PM

Must be some people here that are collecting silver and gold. There own little Fort Knox.

Vendot 12-26-2008 12:11 PM

Ive got some.

http://goldmoney.com

You dont need a vault if you trust the company that holds it for you.

Quotealex 12-26-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15247530)
Ive got some.

http://goldmoney.com

You dont need a vault if you trust the company that holds it for you.

Nope I don't trust any company hold it for me. I want it in my possession, not a paper that says I own an allocated or unallocated lot of gold or silver...

IllTestYourGirls 12-26-2008 12:41 PM

If you want to buy online http://apmex.com/ and sometimes ebay has good deals on silver (never bought gold on ebay)

Or call your local coin shops they might have a better deal and no shipping costs. :thumbsup

Brujah 12-26-2008 12:43 PM

http://kitco.com

Way3 12-26-2008 12:44 PM

Sometimes you can get them at Coin stores, some banks, and pawn shops!

Jack Sparrow 12-26-2008 01:00 PM

There was someone selling gold last week on gfy.
Wouldnt buy it from him though ;)

Quotealex 12-26-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15247620)
If you want to buy online http://apmex.com/ and sometimes ebay has good deals on silver (never bought gold on ebay)

Or call your local coin shops they might have a better deal and no shipping costs. :thumbsup


I like their price for their 100oz silver bar, only $1.29/oz over the spot:thumbsup

Vendot 12-26-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quotealex (Post 15247610)
Nope I don't trust any company hold it for me. I want it in my possession, not a paper that says I own an allocated or unallocated lot of gold or silver...

I have my own lot in safety deposit storage too but right now, I think goldmoney looks like an attractive option as physical gold is generally selling way above spot price. Its simply not available at a reasonable premium, especially in popular forms like american eagle or krugerrand.

Goldmoney are based in the channel islands and they have almost half a billion of gold stored in vaults in UK & Switzerland.

d-null 12-26-2008 04:37 PM

I've bought some and sold them years ago, bought them at a local gold dealer

sold them when gold was around $450 an ounce or so

had u.s. gold ounce and canadian gold ounce...

the canadian one's were cool because they were pure gold, the U.S. eagle's are only 90% if I remember correctly


it is a good feeling owning the actual physical coins or bars, but it is stressful to have to find a place to store them if you have alot

Vendot 12-26-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15248305)
the canadian one's were cool because they were pure gold, the U.S. eagle's are only 90% if I remember correctly

Krugerrands are 92% - 96% if i remember rightly, so eagles should be more.

Canadian maples? I dunno...... i think its like over 99%

d-null 12-26-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15248324)
Krugerrands are 92% - 96% if i remember rightly, so eagles should be more.

Canadian maples? I dunno...... i think its like over 99%

Canadian Maple leafs are .999 gold


American Eagles are 91.67% Au 3% Ag 5.33% Cu (just under 92% gold)

Quotealex 12-26-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15248292)
Goldmoney are based in the channel islands and they have almost half a billion of gold stored in vaults in UK & Switzerland.

But how can you be 100% sure they actually have that much gold stored? There was a bank in Canada that was selling gold certificate redeemable in physical gold and where charging a monthly storage fee but no one could actually redeem their gold. They had to settle for cash!

I want to see and hold the gold and silver I buy.:)

Vendot 12-26-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Quotealex (Post 15248352)
But how can you be 100% sure they actually have that much gold stored? There was a bank in Canada that was selling gold certificate redeemable in physical gold and where charging a monthly storage fee but no one could actually redeem their gold. They had to settle for cash!

I want to see and hold the gold and silver I buy.:)

How do you know you have $1000 in your bank account? You can see it on your statement on paper or via online banking. You cant physically see the money or hold it unless you withdraw it but you mostly just assume its there based on trust.

So essentially its a matter of understanding who it is that you're dealing with and making an assessment of whether or not you want to trust them. You also consider what claims they make about guarantees.

http://www.goldmoney.com/en/guarantee.html

Pornwolf 12-26-2008 05:30 PM

I wouldn't trust Goldmoney with $100 worth of gold.

With all the shady transactions they enable they could disappear at any moment.


I have a question for anyone that may be able to answer, why isn't Gold Shot just as good of an investment as coins or bars?

woj 12-26-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15248425)
How do you know you have $1000 in your bank account? You can see it on your statement on paper or via online banking. You cant physically see the money or hold it unless you withdraw it but you mostly just assume its there based on trust.

So essentially its a matter of understanding who it is that you're dealing with and making an assessment of whether or not you want to trust them. You also consider what claims they make about guarantees.

http://www.goldmoney.com/en/guarantee.html

With banks at least the funds are FDIC insured, with gold money if something goes wrong, you are shit out of luck... if respected wall street guys can run a 50 Billion ponzi scheme for years, it wouldn't exactly be a shocker if gold money turned out to be running a ponzi scheme or some other scam too... :2 cents:

d-null 12-26-2008 06:20 PM

a little off topic, but this story really interested me.......

how because the face value of a u.s. gold eagle is $50, even though the coin is actually worth $900, people are claiming that if you accept payment in a gold eagle that you would only have to claim $50 revenue based on the face value denomination of the coin

the IRS was understandably pissed

http://muckrakerreport.com/id66.html

Zuzana Designs 12-26-2008 07:53 PM

I don't have either one...

Vendot 12-27-2008 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 15248550)
With banks at least the funds are FDIC insured, with gold money if something goes wrong, you are shit out of luck... if respected wall street guys can run a 50 Billion ponzi scheme for years, it wouldn't exactly be a shocker if gold money turned out to be running a ponzi scheme or some other scam too... :2 cents:

Funds are only FDIC insured in the United States but well said........ so essentially it boils down to trust. Madoff was plenty respectable and trustworthy in the eyes of those who invested with him and they made the wrong decision and therefore paid the price. Those who've invested with Goldmoney might find themselves in the same position.

However, the odds on that are quite low on balance and its always a case of "do your own research". If you can't hold too much physical gold yourself, goldmoney is quite a good option compared with other strictly non physical options like certificates. At the end of the day, the business model does make sense.

grumpy 12-27-2008 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15247530)
Ive got some.

http://goldmoney.com

You dont need a vault if you trust the company that holds it for you.

ofcourse not, its as safe as a bank....wooooaaawwwww :)

beerptrol 12-27-2008 03:24 AM

I went through my stock broker. Bought 50 Canadian Maple Leafs at 300 a pop some time ago. I have them here at home in a safe

I also like to go to the local coin/gold dealers.

VicD 12-27-2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 15249685)
I went through my stock broker. Bought 50 Canadian Maple Leafs at 300 a pop some time ago. I have them here at home in a safe

Where do you live? :)

JFK 12-27-2008 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15248550)
With banks at least the funds are FDIC insured, with gold money if something goes wrong, you are shit out of luck... if respected wall street guys can run a 50 Billion ponzi scheme for years, it wouldn't exactly be a shocker if gold money turned out to be running a ponzi scheme or some other scam too... :2 cents:

thanks, that is about what I wanted to say as well. Bullion is NOT a good investment, unless you are in for a very long term and buy in huge bulk. I buy gold off the street daily, people from time to time bring in Credit Suisse oz wafers and demand top dollar. However when I go to sell it to my sources, I do not make enough in most cases to warrant the investment. So I send them on their way. :2 cents:

EscortBiz 12-27-2008 07:23 AM

buying gold in these days is more for peace of mind than investment, hold on to it dont deal with these vault companies even thou schiff says they good etc.

Be aware most selling bullion are full of BS they will give you these back dates when they ship, do not order from guys who do not take CC (most dont) and if they cannot send it that day with tracking dont deal with them (these 2 things will eliminate 95% of online sites and save you the headaches they handed out to millions)

Donfoolio 12-27-2008 07:30 AM

I have had gold feever since I was 9! I have a nice little stock of silver bars and an ounce bar of gold. Many more to come soon I hope! I buy all my stuff from ebay. :thumbsup

Vendot 12-27-2008 07:33 AM

Gold is definitely not an investment and its pretty volatile but it is there to hedge against downside risk and for that reason, having a small proportion of gold is a good diversification. Its also great to play with if youve got gold coins - they sound nice if you jangle them in a bag.

God forbid that currencies really do collapse, which is unlikely to happen, then gold will rise dramatically and offset some of your losses as people ditch paper currencies. On the other hand, if things really improve a great deal in the world economy, gold might fall in value quite quickly.

DWB 12-27-2008 07:36 AM

Keep it at your house and let me know where you live please. All of you.

Doctor Dre 12-27-2008 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15248425)
How do you know you have $1000 in your bank account? You can see it on your statement on paper or via online banking. You cant physically see the money or hold it unless you withdraw it but you mostly just assume its there based on trust.

So essentially its a matter of understanding who it is that you're dealing with and making an assessment of whether or not you want to trust them. You also consider what claims they make about guarantees.

http://www.goldmoney.com/en/guarantee.html

I don't think you really 'get' the point of wanting to buy solid gold...

V_RocKs 12-27-2008 08:24 AM

Ok... Dwb!

IllTestYourGirls 12-27-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15249998)
Gold is definitely not an investment and its pretty volatile but it is there to hedge against downside risk and for that reason, having a small proportion of gold is a good diversification. Its also great to play with if youve got gold coins - they sound nice if you jangle them in a bag.

God forbid that currencies really do collapse, which is unlikely to happen, then gold will rise dramatically and offset some of your losses as people ditch paper currencies. On the other hand, if things really improve a great deal in the world economy, gold might fall in value quite quickly.

Inflation will happen. There has been too many federal reserve notes pumped into the world. China is about to sell off large amounts of FRN to fund their own stimulus packages. We are printing FRNs at an alarming rate. Obama plans to print 1 trillion more in the first 2 years he is in office just for the roads! :Oh crap

farkedup 12-27-2008 08:58 AM

who here is holding large chunks of gold? Also what is your address ? I would like to talk to you in person

;) ;)

mineistaken 03-05-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Quotealex (Post 15248129)
I like their price for their 100oz silver bar, only $1.29/oz over the spot:thumbsup

And now, few years later, for that price you can get only a gram or two, not an oz.

Penny24Seven 03-05-2013 02:50 PM

I buy on ebay, I use bid snipe about 100 auctions a day and the 1-5 I win are always lowball bids 5-10% lower then the price of gold. Most of the time coins that are worth more in gold then the value of the coin.

facialfreak 03-05-2013 02:52 PM

I have just over 300 troy ounces of physical silver .....

I'll probably will make another purchase while it's still under $30

I also have an 18K yellow gold heavy Figaro link chain, and a 7.5" 18K white gold heavy Figaro link bracelet.

Physical precious metals is one of the best investments one can make outside of commodities - which would require you to have huge warehouses to store enough to be profitable.

mineistaken 03-05-2013 02:55 PM

never mind my post, somehow I missed over the spot part :)

Chris 03-05-2013 02:55 PM

Silver from http://qualitysilverbullion.com/

Chris 03-05-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19513221)
I buy on ebay, I use bid snipe about 100 auctions a day and the 1-5 I win are always lowball bids 5-10% lower then the price of gold. Most of the time coins that are worth more in gold then the value of the coin.

how long ago did you do this? I've given up on ebay.


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